Game Thread: Boise State vs. Virginia Tech

[CrimsonNagus]

Last I heard, they didn't require a home-and-home and still could find no takers. They tried upgrading conferences by moving to the MWC, but with Utah and BYU defecting, that blew up in their face.

Yes, they made that change this year for the 2011 season, when most teams already have that schedule set. Plus, when they only have to get up for one game a year, why would a big school want to be that one game? BS has proven that they can beat the big teams when they have plenty of time to prepare for them. Can they do it for 7 games in a row? Could they survive a stretch of games like Bama has this year; Ark, UF, USC, Ole Miss, UT, LSU and Miss St? I don't think so, they'd loss at least 4 of those games IMO. That is the whole problem, they get more credit for beating VT then any other team gets for beating equally as good or better teams. Then they go on to play a high school schedule except for Oregon St and maybe Wyoming, while the big boys have to play VT type games week end and week out. I'm tired of the media jumping all over SEC teams for playing San Jose St type teams when BS plays 10 of those teams per year. Their schedule sucks and they do not deserve to be in the BCSCG unless everyone else has at least one loss, and even then I'm not sure they should be in.

 

[Hamilton]

Last I heard, they didn't require a home-and-home and still could find no takers. They tried upgrading conferences by moving to the MWC, but with Utah and BYU defecting, that blew up in their face.
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You must not have read my entire post. I said they changed it, but not until THIS year. And that's a little late to look for an opponent for 2011.

 

[kyallie]

I watched the whole game,and I thought Boise was better coached,and confident. Tech was an accident looking for a place to happen. They looked nervous and unsure, and didn't execute consistently. For all the Boise sycophants, many of Techs troubles were unforced errors. You'd never know it listening to the abysmal call of the game, and yes Boise was certainly good enough to cash in. The questionable calls of the refs, in the second half (I don't remember what conference they were from,Please don't be the SEC!) Doomed tech, and of course Boise cashed in. Look at time of possession, and yds. gained. Granted they're well coached, but if they played an SEC, or Big 10, or big 12 conference schedule,they'd be an also ran. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :cool2:

 

[RedStar]

One last point on Boise State.

They play 2 schools from BCS conferences

Vanderbilt plays 11.

That's really all you need to know.

 

[ElkhartTider]

Disagree. Tyrod is the only reason VT was even in the game.
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Exactly. He was the best player on the field for either team.

He's holding that offense hostage...

There offense is hey lets spread them out and call a pass and you'll go back and run around for 5 minutes and gain 3 yards.

 

[3TernaL]

dunno about yall... but im a beaver fan now...
GO OREGON ST!!!
(since they're the only other team that is remotely close to boise talent-wise)
here's to the rodgers' boys lighting them up!!!

 

[kyallie]

One last point on Boise State.

They play 2 schools from BCS conferences

Vanderbilt plays 11.

That's really all you need to know.

Succent and to the point!

 

[RedStar]

BTW, in less than a day, this Boise State game thread is already decently close to being as long as the Hat Thread. Impressive display of hatred.

 

[kayakerjess]

I'll probably get creamed for this, but here goes...


As much as I try to dislike Boise State, I just can’t do it. I became a fan while watching them play against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, and I have liked them ever since. They are a fun and exciting team to watch, they play hard and with a lot of heart, they are well coached, and they flat out know how to win.

I agree that VT was underwhelming last night, for all the reasons that people have already stated. They made too many mistakes, the playcalling was not great, and by golly how can you not kill the clock with the game in hand and 4 minutes to go. The fact that they could not convert another couple of 1st downs on that last drive was sickening. That long pass on 3rd down late in the game was just bone-headed. But, BSU showed up ready to play, and they played well for the most part.

The argument that I hear most often about whey BSU doesn't deserve to play for it all is that they could not win week in and week out against better competition, but that is nothing more than speculation. It’s an assumption and nothing more, similar to the assumption that BSU could not last 4 full quarters with a physical VT team. Who knows what they could do until they are put in the situation? I think this year, with the team they have right now, they could win most games in a PAC-10 conference schedule. They may even be able to win every game.

I agree that it is pretty sorry that their in-conference foes in the WAC basically amount to tune-up games for most teams in the country. No one is arguing that San Jose St, Idaho, and Utah State are worthy opponents; Wyoming and Toledo aren’t exactly marquee OOC opponents either.

Honestly I hope they end up in the new PAC-whatever so they have an opportunity to prove that they are worthy of more respect.

 

[RollinTider1335]

What I took away from the game was that Kellen Moore is a great leader of that team. I was sceptical as anyone going into the game but the game was about momentum and it happened to swing the way of BS at the end of the game. I don't think VT fully recovered from the BS 3rd and 1 for a touchdown run towards the end of the third quarter. I could have driven my car through that hole and only one VT linebacker to beat (before that play started I could tell the safeties and CB were way to close to the LoS). BS was fast and I think that is what threw VT off guard in 1st qtr. as well as nerves. Also, BS still relies a lot on gimmic plays.

I was very disappointed with playcalling on both sides of the ball for VT. Tyrod Taylor is VT's best athlete/player and kept them in that game. The VT O-line was horrendous and I don't think it had anything to do with the BS speed or Taylor's scrambling. The blocking downfield seemed non-existent for the lead blocking plays. VT special teams brain farts in the beginning really cost them momentum. I don't believe VT coaching staff put their players in positions to succeed.

There was undue pressure on both teams for this one game. Watching the game BS handled it better although VT did nothing to help themselves win. VT should have concentrated a little less on celebrating with the crowd when they score a TD while losing or barely getting by.

BS did gain some of my respect although they are not there yet. I would be just fine letting them play in the BCSCG. If they get beaten badly in it, then put them on the list with Ohio State and not get invited back. If they win, they get more respect. I want to see how it all goes down when they are not sneaking up on a team.

And while I am rambling......BS plays with a chip on their shoulder like they don't get the respect. That's fine and good but respect is only going coming through fire. If they really wanted that respect they should pushed to join the Big-12 when the re-alignment was occuring. They can only play the respect card for only a little longer because the talking-heads and rankings are giving it to them. Let's see how they handle respect.

Roll Tide!

 

[BFANLC]

ARRGGHHHH!!!! The bosie st love fest from timmie b is at full bore already....I cant stand it!

 

[Ditsy911]

I don't know if this has been mention but I wish that Alabama and boise st to go undefeated and play for the national champ. I do believe that Alabama would embarrass them big time. That is my wish.

Call me crazy but I imagine last night's Boise State giving Saturday's Alabama trouble.

 

[jps1983]

Call me crazy but I imagine last night's Boise State giving Saturday's Alabama trouble.

Really? We were pretty dominant Saturday with only a handful of blown assignments or bad angles on D. If Boise plays like they did last night against the way Bama played Sat (w/o Marcell and Ingram mind you) Bama wins by 10 easily.

It took a lot of errors on VT's part to keep Boise St. in the game.

 

[BAMA1979]

Call me crazy but I imagine last night's Boise State giving Saturday's Alabama trouble.

OK, let me be the first to do it.

 

[BAMA1979]

Really? We were pretty dominant Saturday with only a handful of blown assignments or bad angles on D. If Boise plays like they did last night against the way Bama played Sat (w/o Marcell and Ingram mind you) Bama wins by 10 easily.

It took a lot of errors on VT's part to keep Boise St. in the game.

Agreed. That was one of the sloppiest games I've seen-mental errors and coaching mistakes all over the place.

I know he has won lots of games, but can someone please name a big game that Frank Beamer has ever won?

Can someone also explain to me why you throw a 25-yard pass on 3rd and 9 from around midfield with under two minutes left in the game when the other team has no timeouts remaining?

 

[Jessica4Bama]

I'll probably get creamed for this, but here goes...


As much as I try to dislike Boise State, I just can’t do it. I became a fan while watching them play against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, and I have liked them ever since. They are a fun and exciting team to watch, they play hard and with a lot of heart, they are well coached, and they flat out know how to win.

I agree that VT was underwhelming last night, for all the reasons that people have already stated. They made too many mistakes, the playcalling was not great, and by golly how can you not kill the clock with the game in hand and 4 minutes to go. The fact that they could not convert another couple of 1st downs on that last drive was sickening. That long pass on 3rd down late in the game was just bone-headed. But, BSU showed up ready to play, and they played well for the most part.

The argument that I hear most often about whey BSU doesn't deserve to play for it all is that they could not win week in and week out against better competition, but that is nothing more than speculation. It’s an assumption and nothing more, similar to the assumption that BSU could not last 4 full quarters with a physical VT team. Who knows what they could do until they are put in the situation? I think this year, with the team they have right now, they could win most games in a PAC-10 conference schedule. They may even be able to win every game.

I agree that it is pretty sorry that their in-conference foes in the WAC basically amount to tune-up games for most teams in the country. No one is arguing that San Jose St, Idaho, and Utah State are worthy opponents; Wyoming and Toledo aren’t exactly marquee OOC opponents either.

Honestly I hope they end up in the new PAC-whatever so they have an opportunity to prove that they are worthy of more respect.

I tend to agree with you. I find it hard to dislike Boise State due to that awesome game they won over Oklahoma. I do have a problem with them playing a 2 game season, and thinking they deserve to be in the championship game over say a 1 loss Alabama team. I think the computers will have some say in this as well, but again it is hard for me to dislike Boise.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Something does seem to have slipped with Frank Beamer.

Or, maybe it's never really been there before. They got close in 1999 with Micheal Vick, but FSU largely owned them in the 4th quarter of that game. Since then, they've been a perennial 10 win team that wins the Big East/ACC with fair regularity, but nothing more.

Boise State has reached the point that they need to be in a power conference.

Either that, or they need to fill their non-conference schedule with power teams. I understand that's not easy. They can't get a home and home, because it's not worth it for another program to go up there and play in a 40,000 seat stadium on smurf turf. Last night was a positive step in the right direction. But they need 3 more games like that on their schedule to be taken seriously, IMO. At least 3.

I'm not saying it's Boise's fault that they are in the WAC. They got into the WAC because that's the only conference that would take them at the time. They can't hijack the Pac 10.

But until the Pac 10 or Big 12 invites them, and until they upgrade their stadium and get rid of that blue turf, they need to load up their non-conference schedule. Otherwise, they don't deserve an NC bid unless every other team has at least 2 loses.

Oh and I also agree that all of this is a media creation and it sickens me to see the outright fawning over them.

 

[kayakerjess]

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Puh-leeze

 

[kayakerjess]

Really? We were pretty dominant Saturday with only a handful of blown assignments or bad angles on D. If Boise plays like they did last night against the way Bama played Sat (w/o Marcell and Ingram mind you) Bama wins by 10 easily.

It took a lot of errors on VT's part to keep Boise St. in the game.

I don't think we would have made the errors that VT made, but our inexperienced secondary would have been picked apart by Boise's QB and their 2 good WRs. #1 and #2 on Boise were really good, and were easily getting open against the VT secondary. I don't think it would have been easy for us to win that game, but given the ball with a 4 point lead and 4 minutes in the game, I like our chances.

 

[jps1983]

I don't think we would have made the errors that VT made, but our inexperienced secondary would have been picked apart by Boise's QB and their 2 good WRs. #1 and #2 on Boise were really good, and were easily getting open against the VT secondary. I don't think it would have been easy for us to win that game, but given the ball with a 4 point lead and 4 minutes in the game, I like our chances.

I agree their passing game would be pretty good, but watching that game, 2 of their 3 TD passes came from mental mistakes/ breakdowns by a VT safety. Our safeties have had trouble in run support, but both are pretty good with the ball in the air. As you say, our OL is much, much better than VT's in run blocking and we would've worn them down while keeping the ball away from their QB.

Their QB is a gamer. I think he is a great player that makes plays. It was a good win for BSU b/c VT is a quality opponent, but if that one game pushes them to a national title, I'm sorry they just don't deserve it. Utah and TCU looked better against decent competition than did BSU.