Confirmed by UA: Dee Hart and DeAndrew White are Lost for the Season

[rhm54]

I know the focus is on Dee Hart and D White but was there any word on Ed Stinson? He was helped to the locker room late in the fourth quarter.

 

[TideMan09]

I agree 100%..Calloway is a lot faster than I thought he was..Dude can on scoot down the field fast for a big boy..Plus..He wanted too be RB really bad on the college level coming out of high school..So I'm sure he has no problem switching back if Coach Saban asks him too..

I agree with Calloway. While most of the team gets a semi "break" from practice and such I have a feeling Yeldon and Drake's week just got busier. It was mentioned at some point that they aren't as polished on their pass blocking. We know how hard and how well they run. Well boys, hope you learn pass blocking real fast. We have to have them do so if we're going to make any kind of run. I don't think Eddie can do it all by himself former injury or no injury.

 

[Bamaparrotheads]

Man, hate that for these guys! Seems like it's been tough for our guys knees this year.

 

[bama70]

Saban mentioned on the post game radio show that Lacey had tweaked his hamstring. I noticed that he spend a lot of the second half on a stationary bicycle. Has there been any report on how serious is Lacey's injury?

 

[crimsonaudio]

Good time for a bye week - we need to circle the wagons and heal up a bit before this pretty tough 5-game stretch coming up...

 

[B1GTide]

Hate to hear about Hart. He was really starting to find his rhythm. Hope he keeps his mind right - every reason to hope for a great career when he recovers.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

What is weird is that last night on the news they were saying that Hart had posted on his Twitter account that he was fine.

That's not that unusual. When you tear a graft, as I said a couple of days ago, it doesn't really hurt, since it has no nerves. That was one reason that I had some hope - because he showed pain. However, that was likely because he injured his MCL at the same time. After that pain subsided, then the only way it would show up, short of MRI (and sometimes not then), would be the instability. Young superbly conditioned athletes with strong supporting and surrounding muscles can cover the lack of an ACL. Chapman finished the season last year with a torn ACL, but I can't imagine a RB without one...

 

[DSHO]

WOW this news has put a damper on the day.....get well soon fellas.

 

[crimsonbleeder]

This only has loose relevance to this thread, but the NCAA really needs to look at their rule on medical redshirts. It seems ridiculously unfair that just because you play around 20% of the season, you are DONE if you sustain a major injury, but before that point you can redshirt. These kids suffer WAAY too much in too many ways to let the NCAA do this. I know the NCAA can be petitioned and appeals can be made, but something much more reasonable (and I'm in favor of 90-100%) should be implemented IMMEDIATELY in the case of major injuries. Granted it truly has to be a major injury, AND the NCAA would have to look at the details, and I'm sure there are morons always looking to take advantage and abuse rules like this (I don't know what it would be here), but there has to be a better "medical redshirt" cutoff than there is now...

 

[TideMan09]

Being the 2nd time injuring his knee..This may be a dumb question..Can he come back as strong as he did the last time or will he lose a step being the 2nd time he injured it..

That's not that unusual. When you tear a graft, as I said a couple of days ago, it doesn't really hurt, since it has no nerves. That was one reason that I had some hope - because he showed pain. However, that was likely because he injured his MCL at the same time. After that pain subsided, then the only way it would show up, short of MRI (and sometimes not then), would be the instability. Young superbly conditioned athletes with strong supporting and surrounding muscles can cover the lack of an ACL. Chapman finished the season last year with a torn ACL, but I can't imagine a RB without one...

 

[TideMan09]

Exactly..I don't think our players were expecting Ole Miss players to be as physical as they were..They were laying the wood that's for sure..I'm sure our players were more sore than the previous games..It is a good time to circle the wagons & heal up..

Good time for a bye week - we need to circle the wagons and heal up a bit before this pretty tough 5-game stretch coming up...

 

[ccc2259]

I am sick over this news.....my thoughts and prayers are with Dee and DeAndrew.

 

[rgw]

The injuries are really starting to mount, eh?

Depth at tailback is really starting to hurt. I imagine Christion Jones and Blake Sims will be getting looks there again.

 

[JPT4Bama]

Time for the next man to step up. :BigA:

 

[92tide]

Being the 2nd time injuring his knee..This may be a dumb question..Can he come back as strong as he did the last time or will he lose a step being the 2nd time he injured it..

you can definitely come back from a second one. i have torn - and had repaired - my left acl twice in the past and have been running lots of trail ultramarathons (4-6 per year plus the requisite training) the past 10 years and my knee handles the pounding and twisting of steep, rocky trails and long miles just fine. now whether he can get back to the super elite level needed to start at a top flight Division 1 school as running back will depend.

 

[92tide]

He did. What worries me about his future prospects is that this is twice in 2 years and both have been basically non-contact


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lots of ACL tears are non contact. both of mine came from an awkward foot plant while cutting and twisting.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Yeah -- Howell may actually finish the season with 300+ yards --

 

[TideMan09]

I appreciate the info..That's a lot of trauma on the knee after each surgery..I didn't know if it take a toll on everything after each surgery..

you can definitely come back from a second one. i have torn - and had repaired - my left acl twice in the past and have been running lots of trail ultramarathons (4-6 per year plus the requisite training) the past 10 years and my knee handles the pounding and twisting of steep, rocky trails and long miles just fine. now whether he can get back to the super elite level needed to start at a top flight Division 1 school as running back will depend.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

lots of ACL tears are non contact. both of mine came from an awkward foot plant while cutting and twisting.

Sounds like you may have the "keyhole" femoral arch, since it was non-contact. Mine was contact, but, when they got in there, my arch had the keyhole structure, so they reamed it out. They probably did a cadaver graft for speed of healing, but I'm not convinced those are equal to autografts...

 

[BamaMark.]

I was at the game and I can confirm that Dee jumped up and jogged off the field. They took him to the training table for about 5 minutes then he walked back to the locker room.

What I have been told is that when a person has their ACL repaired it no longer has the same feeling as it did before. If he reinjured the same knee, it is possible that to Dee it just felt weird.

Even when I saw him walking off I still didn't have a good feeling about it. While he was laying on the field he was pounding the ground in frustration. That told me it wasn't good. I also think Brodie Croyle walked off after tearing his ACL against Western Carolina. I think Dee's reaction right after it happened told the story...