Croom. Poll on tenure at MSU: Links, former player comments, etc.

How many years Will Croom Last at Miss State?

  • 3 years

    Votes: 52 40.9%
  • 4 years

    Votes: 45 35.4%
  • 5 years

    Votes: 21 16.5%
  • 6+ years

    Votes: 9 7.1%

  • Total voters
    127
I wouldn't worry myself over what goes on over there in Starkville. I would have liked to have seen the interview in person to make a better judgement about his meanings and bitterness. Sometimes what is printed in black and white may look or seem different than what it was intended. But in reality even if he meant every thing it looks like then it's nothing for us to get all tore up about.

I'm sure he's bitter but that's his problem. Even with his badmouthing or out'n'out lying to recruits he's not going to hurt us. He is an afterthought. Maybe that is what he really is bitter about. He can't compete with us at Miss. St. no matter who our coach is. That's his fault for jumping into that position just to be a head coach. He probably could have won at Bama too but now he has probably screwed his head coaching career up beyond repair. He will be a good assistant one day somewhere but Bama!
 
Today is the day that I cease being a CSC defender/supporter/apologist/etc. It's painfully obvious that the bitterness is the getting the best of him and clouding his professional judgment; hence, the QB Club remarks.

The CLASSY thing for CSC to do (if he honestly concerned about the amount of "class" Bama players showed) would've been for him to call up Coach Shula and discuss the matter privately. Not call him as an opposing coach, but as a UA alum and former player. I believe Coach Shula would have graciously accepted such a conversation and would have taken his opinions and thoughts seriously. That's the "classy" approach, rather than spouting off in a public forum where you know your words will hit the papers.

After going to the game in Starkville last weekend, listening to the nasty and snide comments MSU fans made toward Bama and our fans, watching the cheap shots that CSC's players took at ours, I vowed after that game to root for Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl for the first time ever when it didn't affect our title situation. Now hearing CSC's bitter comments, I'm convinced he's taking MSU's "chip on their shoulder" culture, throwing gasoline on it, and lighting the match. There should be no Sylvester Croom award. There are plenty of former Tide players just as deserving that love their alma mater so much that they would never disparage her in public.
 
He's a hypocrit with zero class and is really coming off foolish.
If offered the coaching job at Bama or Miss State, he wanted the Bama job, but is critisizing a player for making that very decision, that's hypocritical!

Bottom line is that he is not anywhere near a gentleman and that's the one thing Bama coaches always are.
 
As someone mentioned in another thread last week, we need to get Freddie Kitchens off that staff over there. He has way too much CLASS for that bunch of bitter, Bama-bashing coaches, and needs to get out of there before they all get fired one of these days.
 
LSU Fan

I'm suprised he didn't play the race card. After all, that was the reason Alabam didn't hire him in the first place, (according to the media). It has nothing to do with Alabama's record under Shula versus what Miss. State is dealing with. He's drowning, and he knows it. It'll be interesting to see what happens when/if Miss. State pulls the trigger on him.
 
Croom: Some Kind of Monster

This Croom hire is turning out to be not so good for State IMO. Now I know that some feel he is weeding out from the bottom and it will take some time, but I flat out believe that he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to succeed in the SEC. It appears to me that it is all about him, and he is going to stomp all over toes the next few years. It doesn't have to be that way. He reminds me of a coach on steroids or something, a bully with the sharpest elbow.

Question, will Croom be on the hot seat next year? And if Miss State dismissed him after three seasons’ how ugly would it get? I see a Nolan Richardson episode written all over this script. You think he's bitter at Bama, wait until he gets canned from State.:eek2:

My opinion? Miss State will probably give Croom a minimum of five years to turn things around. A full one to two years longer than any other coach would normally be given with an abysmal three year record the he WILL have at the end of next season. Miss State will be too terrified and paranoid to fire the monster that they created.

The End.
 
I'm more than embarassed that Croom has any ties to The University. I recently asked an MSU friend how long they were going to take it before they realized that they hired a person who is incapable of being anything even resembling a leader much less a head coach. His silence rang out clearly. They are not sure how to get rid of him and keep Jesse & Al off the TV. I wonder why they (Jesse & Al) didn't jump on the 'bandwagon' when Notre Dame fired Willingham. Afterall, it was the same thing only Croom at MSU is worse because he has NO class.
 
We couldn't agree more

It'll be a circus, if/when the decide to let him go. He's made the same classless statements towards LSU to recruits, namely Ryan Perriloux. Unfortunatley, the double standard is par for the course. Once MS. State gets enough of losing, (which will take 2-3 more years than the average SEC school, save KY and Vandy), his true colors will come out. MS. State will then be labeled as a racist institution and face what Bama dealt with a few years ago.
 
I'll say this...

MSU fans have been biting their lips this season, and the ones who are frustrated enough to speak out are being held down by some in the media. But, even in the MS media, there are some who are beginning to question Croom's ability (except those at The Clarion-Liar).


Next season will, indeed, be interesting...
 
Take his name off the award

and make it more meaningful to the team. Allow the captains to vote each year as to the name on the award. A list of suitable names can be suggested to the team captains. or if they have a good candidate they can present it to the head coach.
Croom distanced himself from Alabama with his words and deeds. He deserves no honor from a school he deems classless. Coach Shula should make no public announcement of reasons why Croom is being removed, just do it and be done with it. If anyone from outside the system of either school wants to comment (and we know they will be called upon to do so) hand them a copy of Croom's remarks about Alabama having no class. We need to erase this man from our program now. He is in the past and needs to stay there. We cannot take away his contributions in the past but we do not have to include them in Alabama's present or future.
 
Tigerfan7169 said:
It'll be a circus, if/when the decide to let him go. He's made the same classless statements towards LSU to recruits, namely Ryan Perriloux. Unfortunatley, the double standard is par for the course. Once MS. State gets enough of losing, (which will take 2-3 more years than the average SEC school, save KY and Vandy), his true colors will come out. MS. State will then be labeled as a racist institution and face what Bama dealt with a few years ago.
The sad fact is that Mississippi State didn't really hire Croom because of his qualifications. They hired him because they thought his roots and, more importantly, his race could garner them enough top recruits to level the playing field with higher-tier SEC programs such as Alabama, UT, barn, LSU, etc. That might make sense to someone desperate to be competitive, but what it really reveals is, at best, a very cynical and patronizing view of race relations and, at worst, out-and-out racial pandering.

Is MSU taking the top recruits away from Bama, UT, LSU, etc. (or even Ole Miss, for that matter)? No. MSU is still a backwater, bottom-tier SEC program in the middle of nowhere with no tradition to speak of. Most Africian-American kids are smarter than the MSU folks think: they'll go to college where they'll find opportunities (both educationally and athletically), the most TV exposure, and best chance to win and be coached and prepared to possibly play on Sundays, regardless of the race of the head coach. That's what's happening. Now if Croom or another African-American head coach was at Bama, Georgia, or UT, it might tip the scales favorably in his direction a little, but certainly not at MSU.

As MSU discovers that Croom won't be able to deliver top 10 recruiting classes to Starkville as they'd hoped, what are they stuck with? A mess. A coaching staff of malcontents hell-bent on weeding out the "bad apples", but producing no suitable fruit to replace them with. A head coach they won't be able to fire without raising a national firestorm unless they replace him with another African-American coach which (sadly, in today's college football) significantly reduces the pool of candidates. Croom was hired for the wrong reasons, and MSU will pay the price, literally and figuratively. If Croom can't deliever top African-American recruits to Starkville, imagine how many will want to come once they fire him!

Say what you want, but Jackie Sherrill had stumbled onto the only winning formula for State: stock up on juco recruits, snag a couple of top in-state kids, and be willing to take on "project" players of sizable talent but questionable character. He made it work for several years. The problem with that strategy is, with two-year juco kids and questionable characters, you're only a couple of poor recruiting classes away from being a terrible team. Croom seems philosophically opposed to doing it Jackie's way, and that will be part of his undoing. Can you win in Starkville without cutting corners? I really doubt it.
 
But ...

Bill Curry LOVES him!

For someone who preaches discipline and class, his team is one of the most UNdisciplined, rogue bunch of individual yahoos in the NCAA. It's one thing to be talent-short, but they are just plain pathetic.


I still can't believe Bama let them hang around all game.
 
RobK said:
The sad fact is that Mississippi State didn't really hire Croom because of his qualifications. They hired him because they thought his roots and, more importantly, his race could garner them enough top recruits to level the playing field with higher-tier SEC programs such as Alabama, UT, barn, LSU, etc. That might make sense to someone desperate to be competitive, but what it really reveals is, at best, a very cynical and patronizing view of race relations and, at worst, out-and-out racial pandering.

You left off the #1 reason they hired him.

MSU was about to get hit heavy by the NCAA. Had Jackie Sherrill stayed, they would have been given a fate close to what Ole Miss suffered in the mid-90's.

MSU hired Croom so they wouldn't get hit as hard by the NCAA...and, it worked. The NCAA was about to level some heavy scholly reductions on MSU. With the hiring of Croom, the NCAA had mercy on MSU and only reduced a few scholly's and a one year bowl ban whch was insignificant, being they were no where near a bowl last year.
 
HITIDE said:
I believe this is a record. We have a 7 page thread on SilLY CROOM with only 2 posts defending him.....both by the same Tennessee fan. :)


I don't know why he can't see it. I had an Arkansas fan (a good friend of mine who shoots from the hip) to come by my office who was an avid Croom supporter. Said we made the wrong choice two years ago. He comes in today, and asks when are we taking his name off the award, because he couldn't believe what he read in the paper what Croom said. Also said Shula has grown up and will do well.

We know what was meant by Croom's remarks...

By the way...

6-3 :biga: :biggrin:
 
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