Cyrus Kouandjio will announce on Monday betwen Bama and Awbarn

[RammaJamma10]

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Reading some of these posts, it sounds like a lot of folks are commenting on facebook things that obviously aren't facebook users. There is no stalking on facebook- if you create an account you are welcoming anything. There are numerous profile limitations you can add. You can view things people write on your wall before they are public and have to allow them to post. You can set it up to have to confirm friend requests. Twitter is the same way. Say what you want about the social media, but the user has ultimate control of what is populated on his/her page.

 

[ccc2259]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Ok, this might be my last post because....

Another really sad part about all this.....Cyrus and his family are EXACTLY the type of folks that have traditionally made the UA family what it is (Classy Winners), and they might have been driven off by the recent chain of events.

To the Kouandjio family....the UA family I know will:
1. Welcome Cyrus to Bama if that's his choice
2. Wish him well (personally) if he chooses elsewhere
3. Root for Arie to develop and become the best student, person, and football player possible

 

[Mystical]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Ok, this might be my last post because this is turning into something ugly in here and everywhere else.

1- Our family is not shady and does not treat with shady people, honesty is one thing our parents taught and continue to teach us everyday. We never asked for a Cent (even in canadian dollars) from anyone. It is a blessing for us to have two kids going to college for free and we are immensely grateful for that...

2- just because some agent or any other individual writes on cyrus's wall on facebook, it does not mean that the kouandjio's fam is affiliated w/ him... cyrus has more than 4k "friends" on FB (which is way too much i must admit) and he's not in control of what they write on his wall.

3- Our father was not quoted right today. He never "asked" cyrus to play somewhere. We are a family and people in family help each other, especially a 17yr old who's about to make a major life changing decision. We discussed this as a family but never forced cyrus to go somewhere he didn't wanna go to. The final decision has always been cyrus'. We as a family only gave him the tools to make an intelligent decision.... we just acted like a typical american family seeing their child go to college. we discuss with the kid, we let him pick, and we send him away with all our love and blessings.

4- Again this was not supposed to be a circus, but it just happened to turn out this way. i'm personally very proud of cyrus. Some people say that if he can handle the pressure of signing day, how could he handle the pressure in an SEC game... well i think he handled the pressure very well. Another kid could've signed those papers without being 100% sure that that's what they really wanted to do and regret it later in their alone moments, but he had the courage to tell the world that "hey, i probably made a mistake and i need more time". I think that speaks character.

5- I didn't spell check this

I wish your family nothing but the best. Cyrus will do well no matter where he ends up.

 

[kayakerjess]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Ok, this might be my last post because this is turning into something ugly in here and everywhere else. ...

magnanga_boy, I would like to reiterate what many others have said already. I have not ever responded to you directly, but I have read everything you have posted and I appreciate the time and effort you have put in to help us understand what is going on with Cyrus.

Unfortunately, this time should have been happy and exciting for you and your family but it has obviously turned into something completely different, and I'm sorry about that. I'm sure there have been many ugly things said to your family in the last 2 days and you do not deserve any of that just based on which university Cyrus wants to attend. We would love to have him at Bama, but folks should not take it so personally if he makes a different choice.

Regardless of where Cyrus ends up, I wish you and your family nothing but the best. Please stick around if you can bear it. We appreciate the insight.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Reading some of these posts, it sounds like a lot of folks are commenting on facebook things that obviously aren't facebook users. There is no stalking on facebook- if you create an account you are welcoming anything. There are numerous profile limitations you can add. You can view things people write on your wall before they are public and have to allow them to post. You can set it up to have to confirm friend requests. Twitter is the same way. Say what you want about the social media, but the user has ultimate control of what is populated on his/her page.

Just as much as the person can control of what goes on with their facebook, the grown adults that go out of their way to add the teenagers can control themselves by not adding the players. If they can't control themselves from doing that, I guess they can't control themselves from embarrassing themselves and their university's fanbase on the player's profile.

Let's flip this some - a 38 year old man adds a 17/18 year old girl as a friend on facebook then proceeds to write things on her facebook nonstop. That's frowned upon is it not? Same thing with recruits; it's just not frowned upon because these men idolize a lot of the football players, so they see it acceptable.

 

[RedStar]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Let's flip this some - a 38 year old man adds a 17/18 year old girl as a friend on facebook then proceeds to write things on her facebook nonstop. That's frowned upon is it not? Same thing with recruits; it's just not frowned upon because these men idolize a lot of the football players, so they see it acceptable.

Exactly, if I tried to add some 17/18 year old high school girl on facebook and convince her to come to Alabama to be a cheerleader, I would be the creepiest guy ever.

 

[rizolltizide]

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Exactly, if I tried to add some 17/18 year old high school girl on facebook and convince her to come to Alabama to be a cheerleader, I would be the creepiest guy ever.

Would be?
:biggrin2:

 

[tambo410]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

I appreciate all the comments here and it is interesting and a little sad to see how this is developing. Do we know if / when Cyrus will make his decision? I read today on al.com but I have not seen this reported on this thread (I have not read all posts but most).

I would sure like Cyrus to have the opportunity to play with his brother and have the wonderful experiences that I and many on this board have had attending the University of Alabama!

 

[psupoop]

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You listen!

I used to live in Arlington. I am a fan of the Junkies. I got some funny stares from folks the first couple of times I called a player or a play silly. It seems to have caught on now.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Reading some of these posts, it sounds like a lot of folks are commenting on facebook things that obviously aren't facebook users. There is no stalking on facebook- if you create an account you are welcoming anything. There are numerous profile limitations you can add. You can view things people write on your wall before they are public and have to allow them to post. You can set it up to have to confirm friend requests. Twitter is the same way. Say what you want about the social media, but the user has ultimate control of what is populated on his/her page.

Exactly, the account owner has to accept every friend request that comes through so, why is he accepting all these "fans" request? Why bother accepting request from 38 year old fans you don’t know, some that turn out to be agents, to begin with? He opened the door on facebook by adding these people to his account. Just because they ask to be your friend doesn't mean he must accept it. Plus, he has the power to remove these people as well and remove their comments.

Recruits really need to start paying attention to who they allow on there facebook page, sometimes it just turns out looking bad. For some reason though, young people see it as a competition to see who can get the most friends. Don’t play victim when they start posting bad things on you profile, you gave them the access to begin with.

 

[teamplayer]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Exactly, if I tried to add some 17/18 year old high school girl on facebook and convince her to come to Alabama to be a cheerleader, I would be the creepiest guy ever.

I find it just as creepy and sad that adults, and I use that term loosely, try to contact or "friend" these kids. It is the same to me when there are boosters who seem willing to give money to kids just to get them to come to a school. I really enjoy watching Bama sports, and I loved my time at the University of Alabama. However, I don't want to be friends with these kids, and I certainly wouldn't give them any of my money. I want them to enjoy the same great experiences I had in Tuscaloosa, get a good education, represent the university well, and play well on the field or court. It really should be that simple.
With that said, I really hope that Cyrus K. chooses to attend Bama with his brother. I would love to cheer for both of them.

 

[bamabelle1991]

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If CK's girlfriend is really waiting to see where she gets in, it won't be Auburn unless someone pulls some serious strings. I have friends whose children are 4.0 students with 30 ACT's who are "legacies" to Auburn and are on a waiting list. For the life of me, I have never "gotten" the Auburn thing. The campus is ugly--the buildings have no architectural or historical value and the campus is spread out in a weird way. There is NO comparing the two campuses--Alabama is hands down one of the most beautiful campuses in the nation. It is RICH in history and rich in 21st century goodness. There is nowhere more beautiful and historical than our Quad.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

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Generally speaking, and not specifically talking about the CK fiasco, these "kids" and their parents encourage and perpetuate a lot of the behavior that goes on in recruiting. They create youtube videos, facebook pages, myspace pages etc. for the specific purpose of marketing and bringing as much attention to themselves as possible. Again, to make myself very clear. I'm not specifically talking about CK and his family. I'm speaking about this entire recruiting animal/circus that goes on every year that seems to get bigger and nuttier every year. We can blame the fans, media and whom ever else all we want. And I'll agree, they all play a part and hold some form of accountability in this as well. But it takes two to tango and what appears to me that is happening is that the recruit and his parents are getting just as much caught up in the glamor and the desire for "stardom" attention then when they get it and get EVERYTHING that comes along with it, and it doesn't go exactly how they planned. Then all of a sudden they begin to want to backtrack away from what (media attention etc.) they initially were trying to obtain, which is attention.

Everybody has some form of responsibility and accountability in this and I just can't see where the parents and the recruit are completely innocent victims.

Just as much as the person can control of what goes on with their facebook, the grown adults that go out of their way to add the teenagers can control themselves by not adding the players. If they can't control themselves from doing that, I guess they can't control themselves from embarrassing themselves and their university's fanbase on the player's profile.

Let's flip this some - a 38 year old man adds a 17/18 year old girl as a friend on facebook then proceeds to write things on her facebook nonstop. That's frowned upon is it not? Same thing with recruits; it's just not frowned upon because these men idolize a lot of the football players, so they see it acceptable.

 

[bamamick]

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First I would like to say that I have nothing but respect for the parents of Arie and Cyrus. I have said this many times. This post is not about them, or even about Cyrus at all. It is about the possibility that in the future we will not be recruiting high schools because they are not 'Nike' schools. Is that something that our staff is going to have to deal with from now on out? That coach so and so at so and so high school likes Under Armor, gets paid to coach at clinics by Under Armor, and on the side, to steer his high profile kids to colleges that use that particular product?

As I say, I have nothing but respect for Cyrus' family. This isn't about them any more. Where he goes is where he goes, but the most eye-opening thing out of this whole deal is the behaviour of McGregor. I guess that I have just been too naive for too long. I know that AAU basketball coaches get accused of this all the time, but I never thought of football coaches behaving in this way.

rtr

 

[RTR91]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Generally speaking, and not specifically talking about the CK fiasco, these "kids" and their parents encourage and perpetuate a lot of the behavior that goes on in recruiting. They create youtube videos, facebook pages, myspace pages etc. for the specific purpose of marketing and bringing as much attention to themselves as possible. Again, to make myself very clear. I'm not specifically talking about CK and his family. I'm speaking about this entire recruiting animal/circus that goes on every year that seems to get bigger and nuttier every year. We can blame the fans, media and whom ever else all we want. And I'll agree, they all play a part and hold some form of accountability in this as well. But it takes two to tango and what appears to me that is happening is that the recruit and his parents are getting just as much caught up in the glamor and the desire for "stardom" attention then when they get it and get EVERYTHING that comes along with it, and it doesn't go exactly how they planned. Then all of a sudden they begin to want to backtrack away from what (media attention etc.) they initially were trying to obtain, which is attention.

Everybody has some form of responsibility and accountability in this and I just can't see where the parents and the recruit are completely innocent victims.

I agree that the recruit plays some part. I don't understand why the recruit even accepts friend requests from fans. My dad is a preacher, so a lot the church members try to be my friend on facebook. I have decided that if I don't talk to the person normally at church, there's no need for them to be my friend on facebook.

 

[BradtheImpaler]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

Generally speaking, and not specifically talking about the CK fiasco, these "kids" and their parents encourage and perpetuate a lot of the behavior that goes on in recruiting. They create youtube videos, facebook pages, myspace pages etc. for the specific purpose of marketing and bringing as much attention to themselves as possible. Again, to make myself very clear. I'm not specifically talking about CK and his family. I'm speaking about this entire recruiting animal/circus that goes on every year that seems to get bigger and nuttier every year. We can blame the fans, media and whom ever else all we want. And I'll agree, they all play a part and hold some form of accountability in this as well. But it takes two to tango and what appears to me that is happening is that the recruit and his parents are getting just as much caught up in the glamor and the desire for "stardom" attention then when they get it and get EVERYTHING that comes along with it, and it doesn't go exactly how they planned. Then all of a sudden they begin to want to backtrack away from what (media attention etc.) they initially were trying to obtain, which is attention.

Everybody has some form of responsibility and accountability in this and I just can't see where the parents and the recruit are completely innocent victims.

Yep. Just like the "reality celebrities" who'll do anything to become famous, only to learn that being famous means you cannot have any unguarded moments and your every move is documented and dissected publicly.

Anybody else remember the good old days when our knowledge of recruits was gleaned from two, maybe three lines - if they were really good - in a Lindy's Southeastern Recruiting Guide?

 

[ontopp]

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I'll never be a recruit, but after this I think if I took a visit and fell in love with a place, I would just commit. No more visits. No opportunity to confuse myself. It's like that bachelor show. Of course all the women think they are in love with the guy. They go on $10,000 dates every night. It doesn't surprise me that the same thing happens to these recruits.

I hope magnanga doesn't leave. Lost in all this is the fact that Arie could be the next great OL at Alabama, and I don't want him or his family to feel like they are not welcome.

You take all them pretty girls or guys throw in all them expensive dates and all the romance, limos its no wonder they have such a hard time. How long do they actually know the Girls or Guys they propose to? I know thats some crazy stuff, but I guess they feed off what most people wanted in their life.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

If CK's girlfriend is really waiting to see where she gets in, it won't be Auburn unless someone pulls some serious strings. I have friends whose children are 4.0 students with 30 ACT's who are "legacies" to Auburn and are on a waiting list. For the life of me, I have never "gotten" the Auburn thing. The campus is ugly--the buildings have no architectural or historical value and the campus is spread out in a weird way. There is NO comparing the two campuses--Alabama is hands down one of the most beautiful campuses in the nation. It is RICH in history and rich in 21st century goodness. There is nowhere more beautiful and historical than our Quad.

That being said, waiting on a girlfriend to choose is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Unless she gets knocked up, she isn't going to be the flavor of the month in 4 years. There are some PRETTY girls in T-Town!! Auburn, not so much! Haha! RTR!!

There's something else going on with your friends' kids. I have some friends that go to AU that are far from 4.0 students and made around waht I made on the ACT (22-24 range).

 

[Tidefan7887]

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I think you must be confused. There is no way a state school with 20000 students is filling their class with better students than that.

Agreed, and not agreeing just because it is Auburn. All of my friends that went to Auburn (and this is in the past 3 years) had no where near a 30 on their ACT. Some only had around 23-25 but they still had no problems getting accepted.

 

[Special K]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio Commitment (all CK discussion goes here)

There's something else going on with your friends' kids. I have some friends that go to AU that are far from 4.0 students and made around waht I made on the ACT (22-24 range).

Exactly right. Trust me, kids with 4.0 GPAs and 30s on the ACT don't have to linger on any waiting lists at any public university in the South.