D.O.G.E (Department of Government Efficiency) II

[UAH]

To be fair, how else are you going to maintain two mail clerks actually interacting with customers while three clerks are perpetually on break?

The US Mail hardly works at all anymore. One should recall that Dejoy is a Trump appointee put in place to essentially tear down and privatize the Post Office. He has accomplished tearing it down to the degree that everyone is unhappy with it except perhaps the junk mailers who have been allowed to overwhelm the ability of the post office to deliver mail of any value.

I understand that Dejoy is a major private contractor to the Post Office and has likely made $ millions from his stint there.

I believe that I am correct in saying that Congress pulls all cash from the Post Office on a daily basis which basically eliminates its ability to reinvest or change direction.

All of this requires a little more critical look than believing every blurb that comes out of DOGE. I don't know enough to comment either way except to say the Post Office has become incapable of performing its basic mission today. We should expect the cost of any type of shipping will increase significantely in the future.

It has all been baked into the cake!

 

[CrimsonNagus]

A lot of times the words or phrases, "lost", "unaccounted for", "donated", "charitable causes", etc are pretty ways to say, "money laundered", "stolen", or "embezzled".

The money hasn't been stolen or embezzled, it's just a poorly run agency and has been since the 1990s. A 2006 law didn't help either that required the USPS to fund future retirees, 75 years into the future. They are paying retiree benefits for people that haven't been born yet. No other federal agency or private corporation does this because it is insanity. 2006 was when the losses really shot up each year to over 5 billion and up. This doesn't even touch on their hiring practices which are insane.

They should be reducing their workforce and reducing the number of delivery days but, I think Biden signed a law that cement 6 day service. Congress could take action to force these changes, they could have done something a long time ago, but lobby groups make sure that doesn't happen.

I don't use USPS anymore unless it is forced upon me when UPS or FedEx does those shipping transfers to them to finish delivery. They are slow and unreliable. We've had more packages go missing after being transferred to USPS in the last few years then I ever had previously in my entire life. Whenever I ship something, even a letter, I use FedEx or UPS these days and I don't care that it cost more, I trust those services more.

 

[Jon]

I have a side hustle where some of my customers insist on mailing a check. It usually takes three to four days for me to receive checks and in some cases, way longer. Last Christmas it was taking two weeks for me to get checks delivered.

The USPS is a money losing operation and it gets worse every year. There needs to be a serious reorganization done. I know Congress created it and requires mail be delivered to every single address every single day but maybe they should look at less deliveries in a week for remote locations. We can't just keep doing the same thing.

Dejoy is a joke put in place by a fool who want the postal service to fail but

again I have to say the postal service is exactly that a SERVICE. No claims the fire departments, police or armed services are a "losing operation" it isn't a business and was never intended to be. Can it run better, absolutely especially when the clowns and shackles are removed

 

[JDCrimson]

Please remember that DeJoy was a political holdover appointee from the first Trump Admin. His political objective was to wreck the USPS and undermine the vote by mail voting system.

Given those 2 objectives, he did an outstanding job.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

 

[CrimsonNagus]

Whatever, they say crap like that to muddy the waters. Constantly make false statements, even jokingly, just so it is harder for people to find the truth. That's MAGA in a nutshell.

 

[Jon]

how many times do we or I in particular have to prove this wrong for you to stop doing it?

Are you just trolling?

 

[CrimsonJazz]

how many times do we or I in particular have to prove this wrong for you to stop doing it?

Are you just trolling?

It's a parody account.

 

[Bodhisattva]

It's a parody account.

There is no room in politics for parody or satire, sir! Politics is for serious people, by serious people, and of serious people! Seriously!

 

[arthurdawg]

A number of people were discussing this today in our jury room. A number of them have friends, family and co-workers who now have no means of income. Some had just started these jobs in the last few months. None of the 17 of us in the room were happy about this knowing there are now struggling families who have lost their means of income. Some were even saying that Trump was suppose to fix the economy not send families to the bread line. Seems some voters are starting to regret their vote.

I’m sure the MAGAs around here will tell us why hurting working Americans while the DC billionaires pad their pockets is perfectly okay.

The deficit was 1830 billion .. the total civilian compensation was 271 billion. Firing employees won't make a very large dent in that problem and could easily be managed by attrition (6% yearly) and targeted RIFs where you could be upfront with employees, help them find new positions elsewhere, and give them a legit severance package to help them make the move, rather than dumping them out in the cold. The point of the firings, therefore, seems not really directed towards the deficit and debt.

 

[dayhiker]

 

[CrimsonNagus]

The deficit was 1830 billion .. the total civilian compensation was 271 billion. Firing employees won't make a very large dent in that problem and could easily be managed by attrition (6% yearly) and targeted RIFs where you could be upfront with employees, help them find new positions elsewhere, and give them a legit severance package to help them make the move, rather than dumping them out in the cold. The point of the firings, therefore, seems not really directed towards the deficit and debt.

Especially when the proposed House budget would increase the deficit. How would like to get fired in the name of cutting spending yet spending continues to increase over the next 10 years. Makes your firing pointless.

Fiscal hawks: House budget plan could add $25 trillion in debt over next decade

 

[Huckleberry]

Especially when the proposed House budget would increase the deficit. How would like to get fired in the name of cutting spending yet spending continues to increase over the next 10 years. Makes your firing pointless.

Fiscal hawks: House budget plan could add $25 trillion in debt over next decade

It’s almost as if eliminating certain programs was actually more important than reducing the deficit. Imagine that.

 

[Jon]

It's a parody account.

that spouts the same stuff you actually seem to believe and I'm supposed to know that this time it is a parody?

Come on

 

[CrimsonJazz]

that spouts the same stuff you actually seem to believe and I'm supposed to know that this time it is a parody?

Come on

Yes, you really should.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Whatever, they say crap like that to muddy the waters. Constantly make false statements, even jokingly, just so it is harder for people to find the truth. That's MAGA in a nutshell.

The general MOD: Throw enough horse manure against the wall to see if anything sticks. A day or so later, the fabrication is proven false, misleading.

Inordinately, it only sticks because - "Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." Guess who said that? Joseph Goebbels

 

[arthurdawg]

Especially when the proposed House budget would increase the deficit. How would like to get fired in the name of cutting spending yet spending continues to increase over the next 10 years. Makes your firing pointless.

Fiscal hawks: House budget plan could add $25 trillion in debt over next decade

Exactly.

We are destroying the Federal Government to lower taxes on the richest. Not too fix our deficit or the ultimate bill of the federal debt.

I think we will all regret this ultimately. My own concern is that the tremendous advances we've seen in medical technology all have basic research from the NSF, NIH, and academia at their base. It isn't that expensive and wiping it clean will damage everything downstream for years to come.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Rand Paul wants DOGE to build a $500 billion rescission package for Congress to approve

"The only way you get less waste is to give them less money to spend," says the libertarian-adjacent senator from Kentucky.

reason.com

During a weekly meeting of Republican senators earlier on Wednesday, Paul encouraged Vice President J.D. Vance to have the Trump administration draw up a rescission package: a special type of bill that formally withdraws spending Congress had previously authorized. That would allow Congress to make the DOGE spending cuts stick. Even better, a rescission bill can pass the Senate with a simple majority, and Paul believes there would be enough support (even though a similar maneuver failed during the first Trump administration).

 

[Bodhisattva]

Exactly.

We are destroying the Federal Government to lower taxes on the richest.

I think we will all regret this ultimately. My own concern is that the tremendous advances we've seen in medical technology all have basic research from the NSF, NIH, and academia at their base. It isn't that expensive and wiping it clean will damage everything downstream for years to come.


Honestly... I make a pretty good living and taxes could easily be raised on those making a half a million or more and they would never notice it. People in the middle class are absolutely being jobbed with the current situation, where there taxes are going to stay the same or go up while services are being cut to hand more money to this set.

Poor people have little to no money to contribute, so leave them aside for the moment.

If you want to give more to the government to waste, feel free to do so. My wife and I pay a fortune in taxes - many times more than we should. And since we use most of our disposable income on charitable causes, giving more to the government leaves a lot less for food, medical care, and education for the poor. We could help thousands of more people a year if the government was not an endless monster of waste. So, while my wife and I may never notice the taxation hit, those that we could help certainly do.

The feds have increased spending about $2,500,000,000,000 over the last five years. And government was god-awful wasteful five years ago. At what point do we say enough to all this retardation?

 

[CrimsonNagus]

If you want to give more to the government to waste, feel free to do so. My wife and I pay a fortune in taxes - many times more than we should. And since we use most of our disposable income on charitable causes, giving more to the government leaves a lot less for food, medical care, and education for the poor. We could help thousands of more people a year if the government was not an endless monster of waste. So, while my wife and I may never notice the taxation hit, those that we could help certainly do.

The feds have increased spending about $2,500,000,000,000 over the last five years. And government was god-awful wasteful five years ago. At what point do we say enough to all this retardation?

Hello: Fiscal hawks: House budget plan could add $25 trillion in debt over next decade

They are not cutting spending and nothing DOGE has done so far will lower your taxes.