DeMarcus Cousins

legba · Mar 31, 2009

if he does not go to Memphis.I hope Grant make him think about stayin' home.

thoughts?

drsmithofga · Mar 31, 2009

Its a question that every coach has to answer: Do you seek to win regardless, and by that I mean do you take on players with questionable character but unquestionable ability? Personally I like to win, but I also like to be proud of those representing Alabama. Of course I understand people can change...

CajunCrimson · Mar 31, 2009

There is enough talent out there, we don't have to accept Questionable Character, let Miss State do that stuff.

mcmike92 · Mar 31, 2009

good point. My wife taught DeMarcus at Leflore and she said his work ethic and attitude both leave something to be desired. Of course, he can change as a collegiate student athlete. I just wonder if Alabama was ever in the mix at all for Cousins.

lorange · Mar 31, 2009

If CAG is a strict disciplinarian, there might be great conflict with Cousins.

ElephanTideis · Mar 31, 2009

i would hope that, after we made it a point not to hire Anderson due to the type of players he brought to UAB, that CAG does not make us contradict ourselves.

bamacon · Mar 31, 2009

Wayne Disney said:
i would hope that, after we made it a point not to hire Anderson due to the type of players he brought to UAB, that CAG does not make us contradict ourselves.

Not going to happen. From everything I have heard, CAG and DC would probably mix like oil and water. CAG will weed out discipline problems before they ever have a chance to negatively impact his team iow while recruiting.

TideAlum · Mar 31, 2009

Cousins does not care which university he attends. He ONLY cares about who his coach is going to be. I am certain that he will follow Calipari if he takes the UK job. If Calipari doesn't take the UK job and stays in Memphis, Cousins will go to Memphis to play for Calipari.

Cousins was interested in UAB ONLY because of a relationship with Mike Davis. When UAB was unwilling to meet Cousins demands, UAB was scratched off of his list...because it was possible that Mike Davis would not be there.

Coach Grant need not waste his time contacting Cousins...

CrimsonSEC · Mar 31, 2009

Cousins said today (per Mobile Fox affiliate) that if Calipari goes to Kentucky he will open his recruiting back up.

LCN · Mar 31, 2009

Wayne Disney said:
i would hope that, after we made it a point not to hire Anderson due to the type of players he brought to UAB, that CAG does not make us contradict ourselves.

There were a few other negatives in play with Coach Anderson . Some of which had nothing to do with players

_eek:

BamaInBham · Mar 31, 2009

Cousins' comments regarding Bama. From Rivals at the McDonald's All American Game.

Cousins acknowledged that Memphis would be eliminated from consideration if Calipari were to leave. He also said that Kentucky and in-state school Alabama would be considered. Kansas State and Washington were the closest competitors with Memphis for Cousins when he committed.

"I'm just waiting like everybody else," said Cousins about the Calipari situation. "If he leaves, I guess I'll have to start all the way over."

RiverCityTider · Mar 31, 2009

I say go after him. If he breaks a rule, cut him lose. We can't hamstring the new coach right off the bad and make him pass on top ten national players.

What are you guys smoking?

Is he academically qualified?
Does he have a felony arrest record?

Then what is the problem?

I mean I have read all your post and I am still not really clear why Bama should pass on this player that every other school in the country is willing to recruit.

EscaTider · Mar 31, 2009

RiverCityTider said:
I say go after him. If he breaks a rule, cut him lose. We can't hamstring the new coach right off the bad and make him pass on top ten national players.

What are you guys smoking?

Is he academically qualified?
Does he have a felony arrest record?

Then what is the problem?

I mean I have read all your post and I am still not really clear why Bama should pass on this player that every other school in the country is willing to recruit.

What do the names DJ Hall, Terrell Owens, Pac-Man Jones, Ron Artest, Allen Iverson, Michael & Marcus Vick etc. have in common? All were/are superb athletic talents who eventually became cancers to their respective teams.

Sometimes there are intangibles that can't be measured simply in grades, arrest records, and recruiting rankings. If CAG thinks this kid is worth the risk, then I have no choice but to trust his judgement. However, there just seems too much uncertainty surrounding the recruitment of Cousins.

RiverCityTider · Mar 31, 2009

EscaTider said:
What do the names DJ Hall, Terrell Owens, Pac-Man Jones, Ron Artest, Allen Iverson, Michael & Marcus Vick etc. have in common? All were/are superb athletic talents who eventually became cancers to their respective teams.

Sometimes there are intangibles that can't be measured simply in grades, arrest records, and recruiting rankings. If CAG thinks this kid is worth the risk, then I have no choice but to trust his judgement. However, there just seems too much uncertainty surrounding the recruitment of Cousins.

What other schools are "backing off". Is Bama the only school that wants to avoid such trouble?

CrimsonDragon · Mar 31, 2009

I haven't kept up with bball recruiting in recent years. So I have to ask since it seems that most of you all know something that I don't: What is the alleged character problem with Cousins? Unless I missed a post earlier in the thread, I haven't seen anyone say what he's said or done, just that he's a bad apple with no explaination. Please LMK.

Thanks.

ZRossUA · Mar 31, 2009

CrimsonDragon said:
I haven't kept up with bball recruiting in recent years. So I have to ask since it seems that most of you all know something that I don't: What is the alleged character problem with Cousins? Unless I missed a post earlier in the thread, I haven't seen anyone say what he's said or done, just that he's a bad apple with no explaination. Please LMK.

Thanks.

Some people have said that he can't be coached. He has too big of an ego, openly disagrees with his coach (Think: Carmelo Anthony refusing to come out of a game). Just look at the interview with him on ian rappaport's blog on al.com, you can just tell that he isn't a very sincere guy by the way he talks about UAB (a school that offered him a free education and a chance to play basketball, and one that he was "committed" to for months)

Also, there was a HUGE story about him punching an assistant coach as a Sophomore at Erwin. When I first heard that he considers Alabama as an option, I got excited. But the more I think about it, the more that I think he would be a definite cancer to the team. However, it would only be ONE year, before he went to the NBA. He is 100% lock to enter into the NBA draft after next season.

TIDE-HSV · Mar 31, 2009

We're paying Coach Grant well to make these kinds of decisions, why not give him a break and not second-guess him in his first year. Let him decide...

countrytider · Mar 31, 2009

EscaTider said:
What do the names DJ Hall, Terrell Owens, Pac-Man Jones, Ron Artest, Allen Iverson, Michael & Marcus Vick etc. have in common? All were/are superb athletic talents who eventually became cancers to their respective teams.

Yeah, DJ Hall never accomplished anything at Alabama did he? He was only the all-time leading receiver in Alabama history. He deserves completely to be listed with a group of thugs, who have, and are serving prison time right now. :conf2:

CrimsonSEC · Mar 31, 2009

countrytider said:
Yeah, DJ Hall never accomplished anything at Alabama did he? He was only the all-time leading receiver in Alabama history. He deserves completely to be listed with a group of thugs, who have, and are serving prison time right now. :conf2:

Very good point. He was vilified at the end, and to be honest, mostly of his own doing, but he was a great receiver for UA and doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the Vicks and Pacmans of the world. Neither do a couple of the other names on that list for that matter.

I have to admit, I don't know what the history is with Cousins. Is he a premadonna, or what? Is there a seedy history?

CrimsonDragon · Mar 31, 2009

ZRossUA said:
Some people have said that he can't be coached. He has too big of an ego, openly disagrees with his coach (Think: Carmelo Anthony refusing to come out of a game). Just look at the interview with him on ian rappaport's blog on al.com, you can just tell that he isn't a very sincere guy by the way he talks about UAB (a school that offered him a free education and a chance to play basketball, and one that he was "committed" to for months)

Also, there was a HUGE story about him punching an assistant coach as a Sophomore at Erwin. When I first heard that he considers Alabama as an option, I got excited. But the more I think about it, the more that I think he would be a definite cancer to the team. However, it would only be ONE year, before he went to the NBA. He is 100% lock to enter into the NBA draft after next season.

Thanks for the thoughtful response. That's the kind of info I was looking for.

I can see why there is concern. Even so, I have to agree with TIDE-HSV in that CAG should be allowed decide what's best for the team without being second-guessed at this point.

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