Former President Biden Diagnosed With Aggressive Prostate Cancer
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Junior def can't. Jill Biden is a Doctor of Education BTW.
I see that quite a lot of people on social media and among my family and friends think he didn't write it or his "handlers" advised him and kept him on a leash regarding his response. Of course this includes me. No surprise there, I know. That so many see it this way says a lot all by itself. Makes me think of Marie Antoinette and "let them eat cake". She didn't say it but the fact that so many automatically believed she did does say a lot about her and how she was regarded. Trump simply is not known for graceful, dignified responses seen as a requirement for the office he holds. As far as I know, he has never issued a response of any sort without getting an ugly jab or remark in there somewhere if not, all the way through his statements.
Biden has been out of office for a little over four months and things were going haywire toward the last part of his term as we all know. He may not have been getting checkups due to everything going on. If he was because people were questioning his fitness to govern, it wouldn't have been his prostate they were checking. From the things I've read about the circumstances of Biden's diagnosis, it seems as though they discovered this Friday. He was experiencing urinary problems. If the prognosis is fairly good news, I would guess ductal prostate cancer. Why some, including Donny the Younger, would go on like that about a cover up and lying? Probably due to the fact that it's what the present administration's medical folk do and, therefore, the same is assumed of everyone else. Look at Trump. What do we know about his habits. Do we really believe he weighs as little as they claim? Do we think he's likely to be in such great health? As far as the latter is concerned, it is possible but is it likely? We can easily assume that the weight they claim is a lie.
If there's a silver lining here, a lot of men in this country just got a jarring reminder that it's time to go get a prostate check. I'm one of them.
They "think". And there is the problem. Just because they "think", doesn't make it true. Trump can put words together. He's not going to bring in a staff writer for a small paragraph. If it were Joe Biden, would you be saying the same about him?
One of the comments I read was they were trying some unconventional options for treatment, including Ivermectin.
No official verification on that - just adding to the conversation......
Of course Trump didn't write it. No president in the last 100 years has written their own press releases OR speeches for that matter. This is a big nothing burger.
Come on, guys…..let’s not turn a man’s bad diagnosis into a referendum on whether a condolence message was sincere, whether it was actually written by the ostensible sender, or whose camp covered up what, at what point in time, for which reason.
A former President got some really bad news. Regardless of his or your own political leanings, surely we can all regret the news and wish him a full and speedy recovery.
If you or someone you love hasn’t yet dealt with cancer, that day is coming. Let’s unite on hate for cancer, and leave the tribalism for other topics.
A former President got some really bad news. Regardless of his or your own political leanings, surely we can all regret the news and wish him a full and speedy recovery.
If you or someone you love hasn’t yet dealt with cancer, that day is coming. Let’s unite on hate for cancer, and leave the tribalism for other topics.
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I actually think it's possible.
Bill Maher had an evening with him recently and when he basically said the guy is charming, the left is demanding his head in a charger John the Baptist style. Generally speaking, people who get as far as Trump CAN be quite deceptively charming. And it's no secret I find him a step removed from primeval clams anyway.
Probably, yeah. It's called the White House Communications Office.
I'm not sure what your point is. I've never seen or heard Biden, or any other US President, be childishly nasty or write unnecessarily and absurdly ugly missives. "...even the haters and losers" type stuff isn't something past Presidents have ever written to my knowledge. This guy does it all of the time. It's highly unusual for him to avoid doing that kind of thing. That's why I don't think it was his idea to do it this way. If Biden sends out a gracious and respectful note of sympathy and encouragement, though he may have someone review it to be certain it's not inappropriate in any way as a matter of form and habit...I'm not going to question whether or not he required handlers to keep him in bounds. I genuinely think most people are capable of of sending out a nice note. I also genuinely think Trump might not be unless it is actually to or about someone he likes.
Any internal medicine guy will tell you that the PSA test isn't that great at detecting cancer. An infection can make your numbers spike.
OK, I know I'm gonna sound like those historians I loathe for their pretentiousness (HCR, Kruse), but "laboratory technologist here" - and YES, I have in fact run many PSA tests through the years. Anyone saying that "well, he had regular tests and it HAD to have shown positive" is - and there are so many of them right now on social media - to be charitable, they don't quite know what they're saying.
YES - PSA generally speaking is a screening tool for Prostate Cancer (for those who may not know, PSA stands for Prostate Specific Antigen), but it (as Bamaro noted above) is not even close to always 100%. I mentioned this example previously: when you go in thinking you may have Strep throat, the lab runs a Rapid Strep on you. There is about a 1/3 chance if it's negative that it is WRONG, but there's never a positive that is wrong. If the screen is negative, most places culture the second swab and you will know within 48 hours. Because strep throat itself is harmless - it's the sequelae (rheumatic fever or glomerulonephritis that is the fear) - the doctor can feel justified giving you basic antibiotics for strep that will be working before he knows FOR SURE.
The PSA is not THAT "unreliable" (to use a strong term), but even though it is specific antigen to the prostate that does not AUTOMATICALLY "if it's low, you're good." It is a screen along with a digital rectal exam that serves as the "second screen" (this is usually when they also take the occult blood test to see if you have a GI bleed, which is a crude screen for colon cancer).
1) I do not for one second believe that Joe Biden, who had had skin cancer previously, NEVER had a PSA test in all these years. It's POSSIBLE - but not probable - that he didn't have one between 2017 and 2021, when he was neither VP nor President, but I don't believe that.
2) I CAN, however, believe it is POSSIBLE that his PSA was low enough they didn't pursue much more. As a reminder, Desert Storm Commander Norman Schwarzkopf had a PSA of 1.8 and DID, in fact, have prostate cancer when he was only 59 years old. His symptom was knee tendinitis.
3) One possible side effect of chemotherapy is what is called "chemo-brain" and another is strokes.
What if we do, in fact, find out that what happened is Biden was diagnosed with cancer and undergoing chemo and that caused all of this? And before you dismiss it, he didn't have much hair to lose, he wasn't in public all that much, he did look Gaut, and he had numerous brain lapses and Gerald Ford type incidents.
I'm not going to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Biden was diagnosed with prostate cancer AFTER last year's June debate, but I do not for one second believe that he learned it since January 20, 2025, either. Not with bone metastasis (even the cited example of Frank Zappa, he was diagnosed in 1990 and died at the end of 1993).
I have NO TOLERANCE for the MAGA folks who want to say "Biden lied" when they support the biggest liar of them all. But I likewise have NO TOLERANCE for what looks to me to be very similar to the final days of another Pennsylvania Joe (the football coach at Shower U), who all of a sudden announced he had lung cancer when the gates were closing in on him as reporters unearthed more about Sandusky.
YES - PSA generally speaking is a screening tool for Prostate Cancer (for those who may not know, PSA stands for Prostate Specific Antigen), but it (as Bamaro noted above) is not even close to always 100%. I mentioned this example previously: when you go in thinking you may have Strep throat, the lab runs a Rapid Strep on you. There is about a 1/3 chance if it's negative that it is WRONG, but there's never a positive that is wrong. If the screen is negative, most places culture the second swab and you will know within 48 hours. Because strep throat itself is harmless - it's the sequelae (rheumatic fever or glomerulonephritis that is the fear) - the doctor can feel justified giving you basic antibiotics for strep that will be working before he knows FOR SURE.
The PSA is not THAT "unreliable" (to use a strong term), but even though it is specific antigen to the prostate that does not AUTOMATICALLY "if it's low, you're good." It is a screen along with a digital rectal exam that serves as the "second screen" (this is usually when they also take the occult blood test to see if you have a GI bleed, which is a crude screen for colon cancer).
1) I do not for one second believe that Joe Biden, who had had skin cancer previously, NEVER had a PSA test in all these years. It's POSSIBLE - but not probable - that he didn't have one between 2017 and 2021, when he was neither VP nor President, but I don't believe that.
2) I CAN, however, believe it is POSSIBLE that his PSA was low enough they didn't pursue much more. As a reminder, Desert Storm Commander Norman Schwarzkopf had a PSA of 1.8 and DID, in fact, have prostate cancer when he was only 59 years old. His symptom was knee tendinitis.
3) One possible side effect of chemotherapy is what is called "chemo-brain" and another is strokes.
What if we do, in fact, find out that what happened is Biden was diagnosed with cancer and undergoing chemo and that caused all of this? And before you dismiss it, he didn't have much hair to lose, he wasn't in public all that much, he did look Gaut, and he had numerous brain lapses and Gerald Ford type incidents.
I'm not going to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Biden was diagnosed with prostate cancer AFTER last year's June debate, but I do not for one second believe that he learned it since January 20, 2025, either. Not with bone metastasis (even the cited example of Frank Zappa, he was diagnosed in 1990 and died at the end of 1993).
I have NO TOLERANCE for the MAGA folks who want to say "Biden lied" when they support the biggest liar of them all. But I likewise have NO TOLERANCE for what looks to me to be very similar to the final days of another Pennsylvania Joe (the football coach at Shower U), who all of a sudden announced he had lung cancer when the gates were closing in on him as reporters unearthed more about Sandusky.
You can get an elevated PSA in the more commonly diagnosed BPH.
Well, for one, it is grammatically correct, which is something he never does when he is the one typing. Trump is one of the easiest people to tell when someone on his team is typing and when it is him.
Maybe Trump sincerely wishes Biden a speedy recovery but I don't believe for a second that he typed that post.
Somewhere along the way, "journalists" discovered book deals for writing AFTER it happened are far more lucrative and pay better than Pulitzers exposing stuff BEFORE or AS it happened. Someone with a healthy sense of self needs to call in every volunteer and strap them up to a polygraph to write the next "big reveal book of the Biden administration."
But I also don't think there's near the market there once was for those kinds of things, either. We forget administrations the moment they leave office now.
But I also don't think there's near the market there once was for those kinds of things, either. We forget administrations the moment they leave office now.
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