Link: Franklin FIRED as Auburn OC

I wonder why everyone seems so giddy since we've been so insistent that Franklin's Offense would be the demise of Auburn. We may have to deal with a really good Offensive Coordinator now. As much as we might not believe it, Auburn, being an SEC team with national exposure, does have some draw for lots of coaches (especially up-and-coming coaches). AU may fail miserably this year, what with firing the OC in the middle of the week at mid-season. But who knows who will be hired to replace Franklin.
 
Does anybody think that Rush Probst might be a candidate for the position? He runs a very similar system to Franklin's from what I've heard. He also is probably as good or better at recruiting than Franklin. I think they need to get someone with college experience.. isn't there a car salesman somewhere that used to coach?

Propst was an excellent recruiter when he was at Hoover. :eek2:
 
This should probably be a thread in its own right, but since I can't find how to start one, I'll say my piece here.

This reminds me of when Bear Bryant shook up the SEC fifty years ago. Saban even has the same "Evil" tag that many sportswriters used to like to tag Bryant with. Can you look around and see any coach that could have anywhere near the kind of effect Bryant had on college football -- except maybe Saban? Urban Meyer? But he and Richt have been shown to be human.

The Bama myth is this, that the tradition is so great, if you put the right coach in there, it will be just as it happened with Bryant a half-century ago, like throwing a match into gasoline. Could it be that the myth is true, and that this is exactly what has happened with the hiring of Saban?

As Casey Stengel used to say, "You can look it up!" I think you will find the following to be historical.

Within about five or six years (or less) after Bryant came into the SEC in 1958, the following SEC schools changed head coaches: Georgia (Vince Dooley), Florida (Ray Graves), Mississippi State (Paul Davis), LSU (Charley McClendon -- Paul Dietzel went to Army). Georgia Tech under Bobby Dodd got out of the SEC. Ole Miss under Johnny Vaught settled in to being beneath the power they had enjoyed in the fifties. Auburn under Shug Jordan left behind the power that had brought them the 1957 national championship.

This firing is of Tony Franklin is almost directly a result of Nick Saban's swooping up all the skill players within the state in February. Tuberville looked around and told his assistants, "We've got to do something about this!" Ergo, the Spread Offense and Tony Franklin. But no players to run it! Conclusion: Auburn football shook up by Saban.

What is happening "north of the border"? Fulmer lost his state's best prospects to Saban and Bama last February -- Hightower, Jordan, and the Memphis OL. You can hear it on WLAC-Nashville -- the natives up there are as restless about Fulmer as Auburnites have been about Franklin (and Tuberville). Conclusion: Tennessee football shook up by Saban.

Georgia. Last I heard, Georgia was 31 points down at the half, when they were supposed to "whup up on Alabama" like they had done for several years. Conclusion: Georgia football shook up by Saban.

Florida. Urban Meyer was over here trying his hardest to get Julio Jones last year. But Saban stole the show at Foley, and Meyer had to stand by silently and watch it. So far this year Meyer is lacking the offensive punch he needs to dominate like we thought he would. Conclusion? Florida football shook up by Saban.

LSU. Apparently Saban is trying to steal 5-star WR Reuben Randle of Bastrop, LA out from under Les Miles' nose. If he can do that, maybe it will take some of the strut out of Les Miles. So far, LSU people are still true believers that Miles has made it unnecessary to grieve any longer about the loss of Saban.

OVERALL CONCLUSION -- or at least a hypothesis: Nick Saban is doing the same thing at Alabama that Bear Bryant did fifty years ago. And the firing of Tony Franklin is a perfect indication of this.
 
Paraphrasing from the video of Tubs' interview:
"There was no event that precipitated this. There was no disagreement between me and Tony. We always got along. I just felt after looking at the numbers and evaluating our progress we weren't moving forward. blah blah blah... this was the best move for the team."

later:
"Uhmmm... no... I haven't had a chance to figure out who's going to run the offense or how we're going to handle that."

So it sounds like this is being painted as a calm objective business decision but what kind of CEO makes a calm objective business decision without AT LEAST thinking his way to STEP 2. I'm convinced this was a "heat of the moment" or at least a "straw that broke the camel's back" decision. Either way there's no way this was an objective business decision that "hurt real bad because Tony's my best bud and a great guy".
 
It's my understanding, Tubbs told Tony Franklin to get lost. Tommy Tuberville is scum, nothing but scum.:mad2:





Roll Tide
 
The other offensive coaches never bought into the spread. Franklin was a man without a county, so to speak.
 
This reminds me of when Bear Bryant shook up the SEC fifty years ago. Saban even has the same "Evil" tag that many sportswriters used to like to tag Bryant with.

Within about five or six years (or less) after Bryant came into the SEC in 1958, the following SEC schools changed head coaches: Georgia (Vince Dooley), Florida (Ray Graves), Mississippi State (Paul Davis), LSU (Charley McClendon -- Paul Dietzel went to Army). Georgia Tech under Bobby Dodd got out of the SEC. Ole Miss under Johnny Vaught settled in to being beneath the power they had enjoyed in the fifties. Auburn under Shug Jordan left behind the power that had brought them the 1957 national championship.

I've been thinking about the parallels for some time now. It's good to know I'm not alone. Good post, Hal.
 
Paraphrasing from the video of Tubs' interview:
"There was no event that precipitated this. There was no disagreement between me and Tony. We always got along. I just felt after looking at the numbers and evaluating our progress we weren't moving forward. blah blah blah... this was the best move for the team."

later:
"Uhmmm... no... I haven't had a chance to figure out who's going to run the offense or how we're going to handle that."

So it sounds like this is being painted as a calm objective business decision but what kind of CEO makes a calm objective business decision without AT LEAST thinking his way to STEP 2. I'm convinced this was a "heat of the moment" or at least a "straw that broke the camel's back" decision. Either way there's no way this was an objective business decision that "hurt real bad because Tony's my best bud and a great guy".

Yeah I agree. No way was this a calmly made decision--the timing of it reeks of dissent amongst the coaching staff and players.
It doesn't matter who the OC is or going to be...he will be stifled at the barn. I hope they keep Ear$ 10 more years so we can break a few fingers off. Payback and all that. :BigA:
 
Paraphrasing from the video of Tubs' interview:
"There was no event that precipitated this. There was no disagreement between me and Tony. We always got along. I just felt after looking at the numbers and evaluating our progress we weren't moving forward. blah blah blah... this was the best move for the team."

later:
"Uhmmm... no... I haven't had a chance to figure out who's going to run the offense or how we're going to handle that."

So it sounds like this is being painted as a calm objective business decision but what kind of CEO makes a calm objective business decision without AT LEAST thinking his way to STEP 2. I'm convinced this was a "heat of the moment" or at least a "straw that broke the camel's back" decision. Either way there's no way this was an objective business decision that "hurt real bad because Tony's my best bud and a great guy".



Reporter: So what's your plan now tubby. Who ya gonna hire.

Tubby: mumbling to self "oh crap, hadn't thought about that. Got to hanle this smoothly. c'mon river boat put it in spin gear" We'll ...uhmmm......I haven't had a chance to figure out who's going to run the offense or how we are going to handle that..... "I can't believe I just said that"


Reporter: So you have no one in mind?

Tommy: uhmm .... uh ...umm

Reporter: Come on Ears.....Tell us the Truth!


Tommy: The Truth.....You want the Truth........You can't Handle the Truth!!!!!!
 
:BigA:To say you back him one day and tell him to get lost the next is totally classless!! Just like chop blocks by the team and fingers by Tubberville! I wonder if Frankin got one or two as he left. The pics of him leaving was also without class? I wonder if that was Tubs personal photograper and he told him to be on standby! Tubs is slowly bringing Auburn down!:) It all started when they went after Petrino!
 
I really feel for the guy. He was sold a bill of goods last December, and neither Tubs nor his BBQ Boys delivered.

Imagine yourself with what you think is a great idea. You finally (think) you have an opportunity to show your stuff on the big stage, and the anus you work for shows himself for the liar and classless, self-serving jerk he really is. To make matters worse, the cronies who shook your hand and slapped your back suddenly slap your face and stab your back.

I've been in that situation before. It totally sucks.

Here's to hoping that someone like Vandy or Southern Miss picks him up, and he has the opportunity to deliver a barbed wire enema to the people who lied to and betrayed him.

Wah iggle, indeed.


I totally agree.
 
If all the reports about Auburn's divided locker room are true then the only foolish part is that this wasn't done sooner. Instead Tubs waited and hoped things would work themselves out but eventually the band-aid had to be ripped off. Or perhaps if Franklin was someone else's hire and there were ideological differences then Tubs knew he could let things play out. If the offense turned a corner he's a genius and if it didn't... well the blame lies with the people meddling with the program.

What's I find intriguing is that if Tubs is able to get the message out that Franklin wasn't his first choice (or his choice at all) this quickly becomes someone else's mess and Tubs is once again the "people's champion" and we have another jetgate.

Just some half-baked conspiracy theories.
I totally disagree with this. See the 2007 Crimson Tide for proof. As a coach you do not allow your players to run the program their way. If your players do not buy into what you want to do then those players hit the highway. Isn't that one of the virtues we have espoused about Saban? His way or the highway.

The problem at the barn is that the inmates are running the asylum...at all levels.
 
Let me say this about Tony Franklin...

For all the hooping and hollering we did to make fun of him (nothing personal, Coach Franklin, but when you become a barner, it comes with the territory), his system does work, even on the college level. Ask Larry Blakeney at Troy St.

What some Auburn fans are waking up to this morning is something that was lost on them and a lot of state mediots last year is what Coach Bryant said..."You can't make chicken salad if you don't have the chicken".

Tony Franklin was doomed from the start at Auburn. They wanted immediate results, but anyone with half a brain should have realized it takes at least two recruiting classes to make it work. They had no effective QB to run the system. No receivers. Even if they did, it takes at least half a season to adjust to a new offensive scheme.

But, what happened to Franklin is nothing more than the good 'ol boy network at work. And, those fingers they held up for years pointing to not only consecutive wins over us, but pointing to our good 'ol boy network, are now crooked and pointing right back at them.

They deserve every bit of negative coverage they get. Fortunately for Auburn, they don't have to worry about that. Much of the state media is too scared or dillusional to go after them and nationally, Auburn is not significant.
 
I totally disagree with this. See the 2007 Crimson Tide for proof. As a coach you do not allow your players to run the program their way. If your players do not buy into what you want to do then those players hit the highway. Isn't that one of the virtues we have espoused about Saban? His way or the highway.

The problem at the barn is that the inmates are running the asylum...at all levels.
I still say MUCH of the problem was that the other offensive coaches never bought into Franklin, or his offense. I think the team also split, as well...

Tubs was trying to eliminate the split.
 
From Dec-07

TUBS: Tony, we know you've been doing a great job at Troy, we were wondering if you would like to come to Auburn with that flashy new offense....oh yeah, and could you bring a decent QB with ya?

TONY: That sounds good. I'm concerned however that you don't have the players needed to run this find of offense. I mean they have to be smart and fast.

TUBBY: Well we've got good speed.

TONY: It also consists of us not going into a huddle.

TUBBY: Whoa, slow down. You mean to tell me that we don't huddle up before the play?

TONY: That's right, we look at the defense first. Then we select the play and signal it in.

TUBBY: Sounds hard but I'll buy into it.

TONY: It might take a while to work but hey....give it time to work...at least Vandy is on the schedule right?

TUBBY / Tony: ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!:biggrin:

This goes out to Tommy T - Throwing folks under the bus since 1997.
 
I wonder why everyone seems so giddy since we've been so insistent that Franklin's Offense would be the demise of Auburn. We may have to deal with a really good Offensive Coordinator now. As much as we might not believe it, Auburn, being an SEC team with national exposure, does have some draw for lots of coaches (especially up-and-coming coaches). AU may fail miserably this year, what with firing the OC in the middle of the week at mid-season. But who knows who will be hired to replace Franklin.

I understand your concern, however my concern is for this season. I have heard several say that they may now win out. We better than anyone should know that you can't win without a QB. Awbarn is doomed the rest of this year.

True, they may get a good OC for next year. My question is will Tubby be the HC then. Probably, but if the Barn loses the next 7 rather than winning the next 7 the failure of the season will lay at Wingnut's feet.

Truth is I was happy to see Borges go. He is an excellent OC, IMHO.
 
As much as I'm giddy over watching the Barn fall all over itself like this, I also feel bad for the guy (from a humanitarian standpoint).

I've been on the end of raw deals at work, too. I don't wish that on anyone. Should've stayed out of that piehole, though.
 

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