Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.)
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Iowa mayor says 200 JBS employees’ visas revoked
1. A stupid comment from Clarke on SOOO many levels.
2. Everyone knows you hijack democracy by sending an angry mob to attack the capitol.
What that shows is that people are leaving the poorly run blue states and going to other places. the 2030 census will, if projections hold, make it much harder for a Dem to win the Electoral College. The blue wall won't matter anymore according to projections. A Republican can lose all three and still get to 270 once the electoral votes are reallocated.
No One Was Supposed to Leave Alive
Venezuelans deported by the Trump administration say they were tortured during their four months in CECOT.
www.theatlantic.com
Fair point, let me rephrase. We were told ICE is going to get rid of the bad guys. I know of no one who finds fault with this. I haven't heard the leftest of my liberal friends complain about the human and drug traffickers recently detained from the restaurant chain in Alabama. But it really looks like ICE is targeting the lowest hanging fruit possible to meet Miller's stated arrest goals - people complying with federal instructions to check in and other long time residents of this country with no criminal record. Meanwhile, I'm not seeing any penalties for employers. So my question is does the detention and deportation of this construction worker address any real problems of this country ? Are courthouse arrests like this the highest and best use of ICE ?
Everyone here agrees there should be. Does that fall under the purview of ICE, though?
Depends, does the exploitation of brown people count as a real problem? Does said exploitation drive down wages for everyone else? It sure does. That definitely qualifies as a problem.
If I’m looking for criminals, seems to me a courthouse would be a sensible place to start.
The ones they're arresting at courthouses are overwhelmingly not criminals. They're people there for parole hearings, etc...
For clarity, I'm just asking as you're an attorney and I'm not - but isn't anyone going to a parole hearing a criminal, by definition?
I’m down with that. I think everyone here is. It won’t take many convictions to change the landscape of how we currently regard these people as a borderline slave class. It sickens me, that’s for sure. Unfortunately, democrats and republicans are too concerned about who will clean their toilets. God forbid these elitists have to clean their own bathrooms.
Parole hearings aren’t criminal law? I’m no attorney, so I have no shame in admitting that you’ve lost me here. Clearly it isn’t just me. Could you elaborate further?
When asylum is claimed, they present their case to the admin judge, who normally takes it under advisement. Sometimes, it's just to a magistrate. They are then referred to as being "on parole," pending their final hearing and determination. (80% show up.) If they receive a deportation order and stay on, then they become "illegal." It has nothing whatsoever to do with criminal law...
Ah, okay. When I think of parole, I'm thinking of something entirely different. Thanks for clearing that up.
And this is one of my biggest beefs with the administration: why aren't we hammering the employers who hire illegals? I somewhat "get" why they are going after the low-hanging fruit. Trump's all about "show" and he wants to be able to stand behind a microphone and say his team has deported X amount of thousands per week. To do that, they have to go after the easiest to reach.
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