Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.)

[bamacpa]

I knew they'd come around on student loan forgiveness.

 

[75thru79]

Amid crackdown, Mexicans are sending less money home. It’s leaving a mark.

For decades, young people in this hillside village have had two options: harvest corn or head north.

So many left, to work as gardeners and cooks in Southern California, that the money they sent home fueled an economic transformation.

The small adobe homes in this Zapotec community of about 2,500 people gave way to two-story cement houses with wrought-iron gates. Roads were paved. A basketball court rose near the town center.

But as the Trump administration has pushed many of Quialana’s sons and daughters back to Mexico, and prompted many of those who remain in the United States to cut back on work, much of the once-steady construction in the village has come to a halt. Now the gates hide the unfinished walls of “California-style” facades.

Yet more evidence that the US pays for almost everything. We're like Big Daddy in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof".

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Amid crackdown, Mexicans are sending less money home. It’s leaving a mark.


Yet more evidence that the US pays for almost everything. We're like Big Daddy in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof".

$60 BILLION crossed the border, and I'd venture to say untaxed. While the middle class American sucker has their wages siphoned by the government, paycheck after paycheck, on top of having to battle inflation at the register.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Trump administration is reviewing all 55 million foreigners with US visas for any violations

The Trump administration says it’s reviewing more than 55 million foreigners who have valid U.S. visas for any violations that could lead to deportation.

apnews.com

Wait, there are 55 MILLION foreigners here on visas???

 

[some_al_fan]

Wait, there are 55 MILLION foreigners here on visas???

We don't. I think it is a total number of foreign-born, but many of them are US citizens or permanent residents.
No idea why AP has published this nonsense and other media has re-printed it. It is all over the news right now in left and right wing media

 

[TIDE-HSV]

We don't. I think it is a total number of foreign-born, but many of them are US citizens or permanent residents.
No idea why AP has published this nonsense and other media has re-printed it. It is all over the news right now in left and right wing media

Typical...

 

[Tidewater]

We don't. I think it is a total number of foreign-born, but many of them are US citizens or permanent residents.
No idea why AP has published this nonsense and other media has re-printed it. It is all over the news right now in left and right wing media

I looked up the number of foreign-born in the last census and I do not think the number was nearly that high and that number included naturalized American citizens of foreign birth, those with in the US green cards, those on a visa of some type. I do not recall if the number included illegal immigrants. Probably, since the census does not ask about immigration status, just country of birth of whatever status.

Found it.
46.2 million (estimated in 2022).
My point was that no country in human history has assimilated that number of foreign born people. Even on a percentage basis, only 1890 and 1910 were higher.

53% of that number is naturalized American citizens. (Fig. 5 in the attachment).

 

[some_al_fan]

I looked up the number of foreign-born in the last census and I do not think the number was nearly that high and that number included naturalized American citizens of foreign birth, those with in the US green cards, those on a visa of some type. I do not recall if the number included illegal immigrants. Probably, since the census does not ask about immigration status, just country of birth of whatever status.

Found it.
46.2 million (estimated in 2022).
My point was that no country in human history has assimilated that number of foreign born people. Even on a percentage basis, only 1890 and 1910 were higher.

53% of that number is naturalized American citizens. (Fig. 5 in the attachment).

A new Pew Research Center analysis of Census Bureau data finds that, as of June 2025:

• 51.9 million immigrants lived in the U.S.

What the data says about immigrants in the U.S.

As of June 2025, the country’s foreign-born population had shrunk by more than a million people, marking its first decline since the 1960s.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[some_al_fan]

 

[Tidewater]

View attachment 52319

That is an assimilation problem. No country on earth has ever assimilated that many immigrants peacefully (or violently, for that matter), we are simply in uncharted waters.
The implications of these data are two:

• The US should slow down the flow to buy time for assimilation of those already here. (The US have it easier than Europe. They are trying to assimilate people from countries with very different views of the relationship between the individual, the church, and the state, who write in a script other than Latin, to whom a Western view of the rights of the individual is not organic. We are trying to assimilate a lot of people from Latin America, at least nominally Christian, Latin script reading, Western in outlook.
• The US should work really hard to inspire love of country in those currently here. You cannot teach young people and new arrivals that the United States are an awful country while trying to assimilate that number.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

That is an assimilation problem. No country on earth has ever assimilated that many immigrants peacefully (or violently, for that matter), we are simply in uncharted waters.
The implications of these data are two:

• The US should slow down the flow to buy time for assimilation of those already here. (The US have it easier than Europe. They are trying to assimilate people from countries with very different views of the relationship between the individual, the church, and the state, who write in a script other than Latin, to whom a Western view of the rights of the individual is not organic. We are trying to assimilate a lot of people from Latin America, at least nominally Christian, Latin script reading, Western in outlook.
• The US should work really hard to inspire love of country in those currently here. You cannot teach young people and new arrivals that the United States are an awful country while trying to assimilate that number.

No, you have to teach the truth...

 

[75thru79]

No, you have to teach the truth...

Therein lies the rub. One man's truth is another man's folly. We can't even agree on facts in this country. If the Republican's did it then it is akin to fascism and if the Democrats did it then it came from their love of socialism.

 

[Huckleberry]

Therein lies the rub. One man's truth is another man's folly. We can't even agree on facts in this country. If the Republican's did it then it is akin to fascism and if the Democrats did it then it came from their love of socialism.

There has to be a middle ground between the 1619 Project and the "slavery had its good points" crowd.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

There has to be a middle ground between the 1619 Project and the "slavery had its good points" crowd.

There is, but it doesn’t generate clicks and it doesn’t emotionally manipulate stupid people, so what good is it?

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1958684387689566519

ICE try to break into barbershop when owner won't open door without a warrant—threaten to go after his parents.

Agent: "I'm going to go get your dad—and I'm going to get your mom!"

Witness: "Y'all can't tell him that, though. His mom?"

Agent: "Yes we can. That's how we do."

As more members of the community intervened—ICE agents left the scene without making any arrests. The incident occurred at the Presidential Barbershop in Lynwood, California.




Masked law enforcement with no warrant. How is this OK?

 

[Tidewater]

No, you have to teach the truth...

I believe teaching students the truth will cause students to see their country is the best in the world.

 

[some_al_fan]

My son just wrapped up the entire Calhoun Community College online American history course in under two weeks this summer—and walked away with the full 3 hours of credit.

Whether he actually learned anything (good, bad, truth, or not) is another story.

 

[JDCrimson]

Much the way we binge watch TV shows now. I see sprints in educational courses becoming more the norm.

Student-athletes have been attacking their studies this way for years; whereas regular students have bee relegated to the unnecessary inefficiency of education.

My son just wrapped up the entire Calhoun Community College online American history course in under two weeks this summer—and walked away with the full 3 hours of credit.

Whether he actually learned anything (good, bad, truth, or not) is another story.

 

[Huckleberry]

Homeowner shoots, kills 2 men in ski masks claiming to be officers, HPD says

Two men are dead after police say they were impersonating officers at a southeast Houston home overnight.

www.khou.com

Homeowner shoots, kills 2 men in ski masks claiming to be officers, HPD says
"It was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.





How long before this happens to ICE officers? Especially if they're masked, warrantless, and are trying to enter a home/business?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

There has to be a middle ground between the 1619 Project and the "slavery had its good points" crowd.

Thank you for this.

A number of liberal historians have sacrificed their credibility on the altar of political correctness by giving the 1619 Project a free pass. They're an embarrassment both to scholarship and propaganda (the Project and their defenders).

To me, the "slavery had its good points" claim is like the white person who did grow up amongst a lot of black friends using the N word because he was accepted by that community. (It's rarer now but this did happen; Gale Sayers even said that the scene in "Brian's Song" where Brian Piccolo uses it WAS accurate in the sense Piccolo was the only white guy on the team who could get away with it).
DON'T. DO. IT. Period. It doesn't matter that you did it in 1983, don't do it now.

It's the "Mussolini made the trains run on time" argument applied to an emotional setting.
It might be true but in the larger context, so what?