Kevin McCarthy to step down

JDCrimson

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So he is going to quit rather than finish out his term? A real representative of the people...
 

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So now California has to pay for a special election for his seat sometime in the early Spring to hold the seat for a few months until they run again.

People who resign early (for whatever reason) tick me off. This happens on both sides of the aisle. Serve out your term and stop making us have stupid special elections.
 
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I barely had any idea who McCarthy was until a few years ago; it's not like I keep up with Congresscritters where I neither vote nor who aren't caught taking an ABSCAM bribe.

It was when I first became aware of the guy that I knew I wasn't going to like it if he ascended to Speaker:

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But a large group of House Republicans was not taking that advice or heeding that warning. They were the biggest group of holdouts and Kevin McCarthy was their leader. He had the opportunity to give them a cold dose of truth. The blowback from Trump and from his cult-like supporters in
Congress might be severe, but it would be the right thing to do. And if he did it forcefully and convincingly, others would follow him. Exaggerating to make a point about the historical weight of the moment, I nodded toward the monuments along the National Mall—memorials to political leaders remembered precisely because they did things that were both important and difficult to do.
“Who knows,” I said, “if you do the right thing, maybe there will be a statue of you out here someday.”
McCarthy laughed.
“Where’s the statue for Jeff Flake? Where’s the statue for that guy from Tennessee?” he said, referring to the former Republican Senator Bob Corker who, like former Republican Senator Jeff Flake, had stood up to Trump during Trump’s first two years in office. As McCarthy saw it, both men gave big speeches condemning Trump’s actions and were rewarded with political obscurity. They became pariahs within the Republican Party. Nobody talks much of Flake and Corker anymore. McCarthy believed they ultimately accomplished little by taking on Trump. Their speeches didn’t change Trump’s behavior—in fact, they may have egged him on to be more outrageous...

And then there was the pure politics of it all—internal House Republican politics. McCarthy was now within just five seats of becoming Speaker of the House. That’s because House Republicans fared much better than Trump in 2020, picking up fifteen seats even as Trump lost to Biden. McCarthy could see the speakership within his grasp in 2022. But if he crossed Trump, he figured he’d face an insurrection and could be voted out as leader. History could wait. His chance to be Speaker could not. Whatever Kevin McCarthy thought of Trump’s lies and his lost cause and the damage it all was doing to our democracy, he wasn’t going to do anything that would risk his chance to be the next Speaker of the House.
(Jonathan Karl, "Betrayal," 266-7)
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I understand politics is no place for idealists, but there's a big difference between, "I'm going to vote for Bill X that I only agree with 58% on because it's better than nothing" and "I'm afraid if I tell the truth, I won't be Speaker of the House."


In the end, the very mob he was trying to placate - unsurprisingly - became the mob that toppled him.
 
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In the end, the very mob he was trying to placate - unsurprisingly - became the mob that toppled him.
Call it a deal with the devil or whatever, but there is an object lesson here about what happens when one fails to live up to an agreement. We need to see more of this sort of thing, not less. Politicians simply don't see enough consequences for lies and broken promises.
 
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Call it a deal with the devil or whatever, but there is an object lesson here about what happens when one fails to live up to an agreement. We need to see more of this sort of thing, not less. Politicians simply don't see enough consequences for lies and broken promises.
We're all - every one of us - susceptible to selling our souls for the object we think we want. That's where integrity and character come in. Kevin McCarthy did exactly what Olympic cheaters do when they take illegal drugs in order to win. And there are always a bunch of people in those competitive sports (cycling as well) who see others and rationalize it with, "The only way I'm going to be able to compete is take the same stuff."

He wanted to be Speaker so badly, he went along with pretending an election he knows wasn't stolen was. The few Republicans who were willing to step up have all lost their careers, from consultant Rick Wilson (who is plotting revenge constantly - and succeeding with The Lincoln Project) to John Kasich to, yes, Liz Cheney.

So, yes, I take a bit of smug satisfaction in the whole deal. He reaped what he sowed.
 
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The thing is - if McCarthy doesn’t flip flop on Trump and “revive” him for the knuckle-dragging droolers, Dems might not have joined forces with Gaetz to remove him as speaker. But he’s totally spineless.
Without him bending the knee after 1/6, I don’t think that many Repugs would still be riding the Trump Train to Hell. It would have emboldened his cohorts to stand up to Trump; instead, they’re back on the train.
It’s called KARMA, Kevin.
 

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True, but I question we are better off with McCarthy out of the Speakership?

The thing is - if McCarthy doesn’t flip flop on Trump and “revive” him for the knuckle-dragging droolers, Dems might not have joined forces with Gaetz to remove him as speaker. But he’s totally spineless.
Without him bending the knee after 1/6, I don’t think that many Repugs would still be riding the Trump Train to Hell. It would have emboldened his cohorts to stand up to Trump; instead, they’re back on the train.
It’s called KARMA, Kevin.
 
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