Les Miles offered a secret settlement to an LSU student.

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I hate smart phones. For all the good they do, they open the door to so much more evil.

Do not misunderstand me. That boy made the decision he made, and it is his alone to own and suffer the consequences of. But the phone made it far easier to do than it would have been 25 years ago.

I'm sorry your daughter was harassed like that, but glad she was able to bring attention to it and get something done about it.
Adults can't even be responsible with them yet parents freely turn them over to hormone enraged teens whose frontal lobes are nowhere near being connected.
 

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Not being political, but is this a Bill Clinton (or an inordinate number of high profile people) type mentality or defense?
”I didn’t inhale” or “I didn’t have sex with that woman?”
For some us, right is right, wrong is wrong.
Just venting
Well, I think there's a lot of stuff and let's be clear - men in powerful positions will almost always unfailingly find ways to abuse that power. Some abuse everyone. Some men take special joy in abusing other men and making them feel "small" while some get some sort of pleasure in abusing women.....or in taking what they feel are the "fruits" of their labor.

I don't want in any way to dismiss the previous post about the request for nude selfies, the one thing I will say (and this does not comfort me in any way) is that part of that in that case (as wrong as it is) is people coming of age and - unfortunately - it's easier now for people to give into their more primitive or evil thoughts or desires BECAUSE of things like the Internet or the phone. You don't have to go up to a woman and SAY with your own voice something deeply crude and disgusting, you can just put it in a text, which doesn't sound to the person saying it nearly as bad. Plenty of people SAY things when it's on text/internet they would NEVER say to someone's face.

Most of my friends are female. I can say with a clear conscience NEVER ONCE have I ever sent one of those Brett Favre specialties to anyone or really been tempted. In all sincerity, I'm actually afraid to be on my phone when I'm in the buff because there have been a few times when a post when up where I thought the phone was locked and each bump was doing something (I once called a buddy of mine at 3am his time.....17 times.....without knowing it. He thought I might be kidnapped and in a car trunk somewhere).

We do live in a declining standards of everything all around, but I also don't think there's anything "new" to what's happening. I'm kind of disappointed in one sense because Miles was one helluva interview and enjoyable. But I also quit worshipping humans a long time ago, particularly after Pete Rose destroyed my childhood.

Furthermore, NONE of us ALWAYS does right. I don't disagree with your concept of right is right, and if you wouldn't do it in front of your mother then it's probably not a good idea. But I also do bad and evil things, too, so there's still the conflict of "mercy vs justice."

Btw - here's another point to the whole thing: part of the problem anymore is the reality that because we live in a not just a 24/7 news cycle but now live in a live Tweet world, EVERYONE (it seems) is offended by SOMETHING all the time. And I think that particular reality causes people to be more deadened by exposure to things over and over than they should be. Because people do take offense at what in some (many maybe?) cases are usually misunderstandings or inflated in importance, we get numb to when things really are bad stuff, both the perpetrator does AND the readers.

I will confess I enjoy so many of the modern conveniences like being able to get ahold of my kid pretty much any time any day I need to...but there really was something nice about being out in the country away from everyone, too.
 

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I have not learned (yet) not to be shocked at the audacity/stupidity of these high profile people. When I am watching a TV show and one of the crooks pulls a gun on the other crook to steal his share and the victim crooks gets that "i can't believe you are doing this even though I know you are a murdering thief" I just shake my head at think how stupid of this victim crook to trust a murdering lying thief. Now how stupid is it to go around doing ANYTHING not Politically Correct? The media will jump on it and you are in deep doo doo. First smart rule is NEVER do or say anything that will raise the public opinion eyebrow. WHEN WILL THEY LEARN.
 

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First, I've always like Miles, I thought he was a stand-up guy and thought the SEC was better having him.

That said, I'm glad this is catching up to him. No one should get away with this sort of behavior. I feel badly for his family and the pain and embarrassment this is causing them, but I'm glad this came to light.
 

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First, I've always like Miles, I thought he was a stand-up guy and thought the SEC was better having him.

That said, I'm glad this is catching up to him. No one should get away with this sort of behavior. I feel badly for his family and the pain and embarrassment this is causing them, but I'm glad this came to light.
I also liked Paterno, and then we found out the truth. Being likeable helps people succeed, but it also helps them manipulate others.
 

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I also liked Paterno, and then we found out the truth. Being likeable helps people succeed, but it also helps them manipulate others.
Serial pedophiles are always the last people suspected because they are often so charismatic and likable. (Obviously not accusing Miles of that). Point being it’s people who are great at manipulating people to achieve a result who possess the skill set for this stuff. It shouldn’t surprise us that coaches who are able to manipulate (influence might be a more positive word) people to achieve things don’t compartmentalize that trait and use it for evil things.

And before anyone thinks I’m picking on coaches, I’ve seen folks in church do the same stuff.
 

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That's probably how this is going to play out. He's not going to survive this.
Don’t forget Mike Dubose🤔
I agree with what @crimsonaudio alluded to a few pages back in that things like this are probably more common among HC's than we may want to believe. It is sad, but when things come to light such as the Hugh Freeze situation, Bobby Petrino situation and others (the Miss St baseball coach a few years back) that we've learned about over the years. Looking at the dynamics and environment of college campuses, I'm not sure why we don't believe it goes on a lot. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Serial pedophiles are always the last people suspected because they are often so charismatic and likable. (Obviously not accusing Miles of that). Point being it’s people who are great at manipulating people to achieve a result who possess the skill set for this stuff. It shouldn’t surprise us that coaches who are able to manipulate (influence might be a more positive word) people to achieve things don’t compartmentalize that trait and use it for evil things.

And before anyone thinks I’m picking on coaches, I’ve seen folks in church do the same stuff.
Miles’ success is due in large part to his ability to convince young men to do his bidding. I guess he tried to expand it to young women.
 

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This is a huge black eye for my alma mater. I hate what happened mostly for the victims, but also for so many friends with kids there The ones I have spoken to are upset, but the silver lining is that the campus should become a much safer place.

Most of you know I’m not a Miles fan, I never wanted him and I wanted him to leave in 2007 when Herbstreit reported he was going to Michigan, I wanted him fired in 09 with his awful clock management debacles, I wanted him fired every day after the 21-0 game. However, it was always thought that he was, at his core, a person of decency. How wrong we all were about that.
 

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Serial pedophiles are always the last people suspected because they are often so charismatic and likable. (Obviously not accusing Miles of that). Point being it’s people who are great at manipulating people to achieve a result who possess the skill set for this stuff. It shouldn’t surprise us that coaches who are able to manipulate (influence might be a more positive word) people to achieve things don’t compartmentalize that trait and use it for evil things.

And before anyone thinks I’m picking on coaches, I’ve seen folks in church do the same stuff.
My wife and I are members of a large church in Birmingham. We spent over 10 years caring for children in the nursery and preschool during worship service. Never did anyone ask us to submit for a background check. It was very disturbing to me. This is exactly the situation that pedophiles and molesters look to exploit.

For this reason, I went to the church and children’s program administrators and expressed my concerns. They looked at me like I was a nut job.

I said “Look, I coach youth basketball, baseball and softball. Before any coach or assistant can set foot on a field or court, you must agree to a background check. Is it too much to ask that the church do the same, especially in situations when so many are left with minimal oversight or supervision? Remember , just because this is a church doesn’t mean everyone walking through those doors is a saint...”

Six months later, they started background checks.
 
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My wife and I are members of a large church in Birmingham. We spent over 10 years caring for children in the nursery and preschool during worship service. Never did anyone ask us to submit for a background check. It was very disturbing to me. This is exactly the situation that pedophiles and molesters look to exploit.

For this reason, I went to the church and children’s program administrators and expressed my concerns. They looked at me like I was a nut job.

I said “Look, I coach youth basketball, baseball and softball. Before any coach or assistant can set foot on a field or court, you must agree to a background check. Is it too much to ask that the church do the same, especially in situations when so many are left with minimal oversight or supervision? Remember , just because this is a church doesn’t mean everyone walking through those doors is a saint...”

Six months later, they started background checks.

We had something similar happen at a church we attended years ago. Our church signed up for "Upwards Sports", which is a religious based organization whose mission is to introduce the gospel of Jesus Christ through sports (Upward Sport). The organization basically meets with the leaders of your church, gives you the format of how the program is ran and off you go. One of the requirements of Upward Sports is to get background checks on all volunteers before allowing them to participate in the program. Our church dropped the ball and did not do that and found out after the basketball season that they had let a registered pedophile participate in the program. Upward Sports found out and no longer allowed the church to use their platform.
 

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Background checks became a norm for most churches over 10 years ago...we had a pedophile (unknown) in our church who did not work with the children but was around...he was later charged, convicted and spent several years in prison for molesting his step-daughter. Until his arrest and conviction he had no record, so a background check would not have revealed him. You have to really have a "safe sanctuary" policy in place regarding adults and children/youth. Protects everyone, including adults from false charges.