OU QB Kicked Off Team

[BamaMan34]

I applaud Coach Stoops and hope coaches around the country will take note.

 

[uafan4life]

I dont think Bomar should be kicked off. Its not like he was stealing from someone. I dont think these actions are right, just not severe enough to get kicked off the team. I understand why OU had to do it.

At least make him work until he has worked enough hours to where he would have earned that money. Just think he deserves a second chance.

In life you don't always get second chances. Oh, and no one "deserves" a second chance. You get your shot, if you miss, then you miss. Deal with it. If you are granted a second chance, it is only by grace or mercy.

 

[rgw]

Seems like plenty of coaches are throwing down the hammer this Summer.

 

[CornBiscuit]

Oh please...this second chance stuff makes me sick. He and all other players know that there are strict rules on receiving money from outside sources. It's being reported that he claimed for tax purposes to make $18,000 a year...although he only worked roughly 5 hours a week. That's an enormous difference. Such an enormous difference that there wouldn't be enough hours in a week for him to go to school, practice with the team, and work the extra hours needed at the dealership to make up for the amount of money given to him by this booster. Bob Stoops is displaying integrity and fairness by kicking him off of the team. Bomar is learning about consequences...

I agree, heshould get kicked off b/c he knew itwas wrong. I. Im not for second schances when a guy gets a DUI and and has drugs and all that stuff. I just selfishly wanted to watch him so put him back on the team!

I think the main focus should be on the guy that gave him the money.

 

[UA All the Way]

Stoops did the right thing. Takes guts to kick out your starting QB. I can't EVER imagine Tubbs or Fat Phil doing that. Stoops has always run a great program. I wish OU all the best this year. Their fans were class acts when they came to T-Town.

 

[AlabamaSooner]

That sounds like UcheaT and Awbarn, but the NZAA does nothing to them, so what's the big deal. I guess we all know where Bomar will be transferring to this fall. Hey, Fat Phil, you may have a new QB!

The difference is that Stoops brought everything to the forefront, unlike some other coaches that we know.

 

[AlabamaSooner]

Just read where Bomar was paid $10,000 even thought he wasn't working. Some fo the alleged times given for his "work" was during scheduled workouts @ OU. As was posted above, this is the same dealership from the AP scandal. The NZAA may be going to work soon on this one and w/a microscope. Repeat problem w/booster? We shall see.:conf2:

I highly doubt the NCAA will get involved since this was meet up front and taken care of. Regarding the Adrian Peterson situation, no wrong doing was found there anyway. For what it's worth, the owner of Big Red Sports and Imports was fired recently after the whole Peterson situation.

 

[CrimsonPride]

I commend Bob Stoops on doing the right thing. However, the administration should go one step further and disassociate the booster. If the players knew it was wrong to accept money for time they did not work, the booster definitely knew it was wrong to pay the money. Who needs to get a degree when you can make $69/hr? Besides, this is the second incident that we know of involving this dealership.

 

[TerryP]

I dont think Bomar should be kicked off. Its not like he was stealing from someone. I dont think these actions are right, just not severe enough to get kicked off the team. I understand why OU had to do it.

At least make him work until he has worked enough hours to where he would have earned that money. Just think he deserves a second chance.

I haven't seen anyone here get to the point of all of this, yet.

Understand, OU is under the probationary window right now due to the violations that occured with the basketball program and Sampson. Stoops had no choice if he wanted to avoid the NCAA.

I respect Stoops as a coach, don't get me wrong. But, this move wasn't about setting an example IMO. It was a neccessity.

 

[tidefan23]

In related news, Tennessee Coach Phil Fulmer has scheduled meetings with both dismissed players AND the owner of the auto dealership.....

In further related news, Orgeron has named Bomar as his starter and is walking the transfer papers over to Ole Miss admins as we speak.

 

[bamabake]

"NORMAN, Okla. -- Based upon an investigation initiated by the University of Oklahoma and facts uncovered by the University, Head Coach Bob Stoops today announced that he has permanently dismissed two members of the Sooner football team.

The investigation by OU revealed that two football players received extra compensation above that to which they were entitled related to their employment at a private business. This is a direct violation of NCAA rules. The two accepted payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked. OU is taking the initiative by declaring them ineligible for the entire current season and by permanently dismissing the two from the team. They will not be allowed to return to the OU team at any time in the future.

“We spend a considerable amount of time addressing our players regarding their personal conduct and the NCAA rules,” Stoops said. “They know exactly what we expect from them. Ultimately, they have to make right decisions. The same holds true for our boosters. When they do not, the consequences are serious, and we will not tolerate this behavior.

“Our team and University actions are necessary because of the intentional participation and knowledge of the student athletes in these violations,” Stoops said.
“I firmly believe that our program is stronger than any individual player and that a championship program cannot compromise its values,” he said. “We are proud to represent a University with the highest possible principles,” Stoops said.

"I strongly support the decision of Coach Stoops," said OU President David L. Boren. "Coach Stoops has done the right thing. His action reflects the basic values of our University,” Boren said. “While this situation is deeply disappointing, the University is sending a clear and unmistakable message that OU will never compromise its high ethical standards or its integrity. We share the sadness about this situation with our fans and players who have followed the rules, but we believe in our program and in this team, which we know will carry on in the great Sooner tradition.”

Athletics Director Joe Castiglione said, “I am disappointed in these student-athletes. The education process is something that we take very seriously. We talk about it frequently and include guidelines in many of our printed materials. In the end, individuals must decide right and wrong for themselves and then live with the consequences. Unfortunately, many more people who themselves play by the rules are also affected by these consequences.”

I love my Sooners, but anybody that puts our program at risk has to go. This immature dumb*** has screwed over the entire Sooner Nation. What a waste.

Dude I feel bad for OU. I really repect Stoops stand. He is a class act.

 

[AlabamaSooner]

I haven't seen anyone here get to the point of all of this, yet.

Understand, OU is under the probationary window right now due to the violations that occured with the basketball program and Sampson. Stoops had no choice if he wanted to avoid the NCAA.

I respect Stoops as a coach, don't get me wrong. But, this move wasn't about setting an example IMO. It was a neccessity.

Just my 2 cents, but everything Stoops has done since he's been at OU has been to set an example when it has come to situations such as these. Whether or not the basketball situation happened would not have affected his decision. Regardless of the situation, he would have done the same thing. I can see Tubs or Fulmer doing it as a neccessity, but I wouldn't even put them in the same league as Stoops, IMO.

 

[Boclive]

I believe Bob Stoops has steel testicles anyway ever since he called the fake punt inside his own 30 late in the third quarter against Alabama in '03.

The whole sad story reflects poorly on the state and condition of college athletics. I am reminded of the story of Charlie Comiskey, the 1919 Chicago White Sox, and Kennesaw Landis.

I hold nothing against the two players OU dismissed, and I hope they both go on to live successful lives.

This is just sad without even considering OU's quarterback problems now.

 

[TerryP]

Just my 2 cents, but everything Stoops has done since he's been at OU has been to set an example when it has come to situations such as these. Whether or not the basketball situation happened would not have affected his decision. Regardless of the situation, he would have done the same thing. I can see Tubs or Fulmer doing it as a neccessity, but I wouldn't even put them in the same league as Stoops, IMO.

Never, would I put Stoops in the same league as Tubs or Fulmer...hell, not on the same planet.

The $$ paid to both players is an illegal benefit, no doubt. It isn't a secondary violation either: major infraction.

The basketball allegations/charges isn't something that was "questioned" as actually happening. OU self imposed sanctions and they are under that probationary window.

We've seen at Alabama and a few other schools what happens in infraction cases where those schools are under this window...in a nut shell, the sanctions are heavier.

I'm not saying Stoops wouldn't have taken the same action if the basketball violations weren't there. I am saying that if they weren't there, he probably would have suspended the players for a few games and those players would have paid that money back. There is precedence for that type of discipline. But, with the "window" in place a permanent suspension seems to me the only recourse he could have taken without feeling more heat from the Infractions Committee.

 

[POWERLINEMAN42]

This sucks, I root for OU after we met all the great fans here in T-town. They had a chance to make some noise this year but there goes the season now.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Oh please...this second chance stuff makes me sick. He and all other players know that there are strict rules on receiving money from outside sources. It's being reported that he claimed for tax purposes to make $18,000 a year...although he only worked roughly 5 hours a week. That's an enormous difference. Such an enormous difference that there wouldn't be enough hours in a week for him to go to school, practice with the team, and work the extra hours needed at the dealership to make up for the amount of money given to him by this booster. Bob Stoops is displaying integrity and fairness by kicking him off of the team. Bomar is learning about consequences...

Funny you should say that...what about a certain linebacker at Bama who's had his problem recently with the law? Does he not deserve a second chance? Jesus Bomar is all of what, 20? I agree it's a life lesson...maybe suspend him for the season or something, but don't jeopardize the kid's education, etc. over it.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

I agree, heshould get kicked off b/c he knew itwas wrong. I. Im not for second schances when a guy gets a DUI and and has drugs and all that stuff. I just selfishly wanted to watch him so put him back on the team!

I think the main focus should be on the guy that gave him the money.

:biggrin:

 

[wishbonesooner]

A lot of you folks have had some very complimentary things to say about Bob Stoops. I appreciate that very much, as a Sooner alum as well as a fan. I gotta tell you though, Bob has to shoulder a little bit of the blame in this debacle. Bob's no rookie, he knows that boosters like to be able to brag about having big time players around them. He knows that these things will happen. He should have been birddogging Bomar and Adrian Peterson, IMO, you don't let boosters destroy your chances at winning championships. There's plenty of blame to go around here, and Bob isn't without some himself.

 

[AlabamaSooner]

Never, would I put Stoops in the same league as Tubs or Fulmer...hell, not on the same planet.

The $$ paid to both players is an illegal benefit, no doubt. It isn't a secondary violation either: major infraction.

The basketball allegations/charges isn't something that was "questioned" as actually happening. OU self imposed sanctions and they are under that probationary window.

We've seen at Alabama and a few other schools what happens in infraction cases where those schools are under this window...in a nut shell, the sanctions are heavier.

I'm not saying Stoops wouldn't have taken the same action if the basketball violations weren't there. I am saying that if they weren't there, he probably would have suspended the players for a few games and those players would have paid that money back. There is precedence for that type of discipline. But, with the "window" in place a permanent suspension seems to me the only recourse he could have taken without feeling more heat from the Infractions Committee.

Nicely said

 

[AlabamaSooner]

A lot of you folks have had some very complimentary things to say about Bob Stoops. I appreciate that very much, as a Sooner alum as well as a fan. I gotta tell you though, Bob has to shoulder a little bit of the blame in this debacle. Bob's no rookie, he knows that boosters like to be able to brag about having big time players around them. He knows that these things will happen. He should have been birddogging Bomar and Adrian Peterson, IMO, you don't let boosters destroy your chances at winning championships. There's plenty of blame to go around here, and Bob isn't without some himself.

I understand what you're saying, but he's not Superman either though. He can't keep up with each of his players (even a few select players) 24/7. If he did, there would be no time for game plans, recruiting, etc. He and the compliance department at OU do everything in their power to educate athletes about what is acceptable and what is not. I'm sure Stoops would tell you that if a player isn't keeping the best interest of the team in mind, then they shouldn't be playing in the first place.