That was especially true in the early days. It seems to me they're getting more and more updated weapons. There's even talk of sending them the latest rockets now. We just move so slow...
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Is there a central depository for munitions that have aged out? Or do they stay at the base (location) they were originally sent? If my memory serves me right from my early Federal service at Fort Rucker, ammo was stored in underground bunkers with only a concrete wall and steel doors exposed.
They have centralized storage depots. I know one is in California. Ft. Rucker is another...
This is off the topic but there are many underground bunkers on Redstone from the time that chemical munitions, bombs and artillery rounds were built on the base. We utilized them for storage of anti-tank missiles before they were shipped and they are still in use today.
Having read that chemical munitions were manufactured here caused me to strongly suspect that the frequent explosions we hear could be destruction of outdated munitions.
One of my Bama ChemE classmates was in ROTC and spent his entire Army career at the Anniston Depot. I'm sure he was a chemical weapons guy.
I think the Army is and has been doing environmental remediation at Redstone due to the chemical weapons history there.
Not only that, but the largest DDT air mill in the country was located there. I knew the owner well...
I recall the significant issue for Triana residents who have eaten cat fish from the river for years and were being contaminated with the extremely high DDT levels around Triana. You may be quite familiar with how that was eventually resolved!
Some of our former USAF posters that have been stationed in San Antonio perhaps could offer more detail on Medina Annex (Lackland AFB). All I know is that Medina was a nuke storage, top 10 on the USSR Hit List, and in 1963 a warhead trigger went off in or near one of the bunkers.
It came out after the dissolution of the USSR that Huntsville was on the list. I guess it was based on the missile commands. It was before the Materiel Command came here...
It was regarded as so harmless back then, just killed bugs. The gentleman I referred to, Sam, had a tight relationship, naturally, with the man here who held the patents on it. In order to make it wettable, it had to be milled basically to a very fine powder. That was done with room-sized air chambers. Sam told me that he would go into the huge drums to solve problems, hands-on. He was that convinced it was harmless...I recall the significant issue for Triana residents who have eaten cat fish from the river for years and were being contaminated with the extremely high DDT levels around Triana. You may be quite familiar with how that was eventually resolved!
When I worked for Stauffer Chemical years ago one of the production trains made this. There was a medical surveillance program for the folks that worked in that unit.
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I’m sorry, Earle. I need some education to be sure I understand. I didn’t know what FIRMS data is, or what the greatly reduced red dots, referred to as “returns,” represent.
Did a quick Google search, and it’s apparently used mostly for fires. In this case, I’m guessing it could also be used to identify points of origin for expenditure of a lot of energy — like launches of missiles.
So is this saying that the Russians lost a whole bunch of missile launchers (which, BTW, they can’t replace) in the four days between July 8 and 12?
If so, I’m not sure Putin can wait until the November elections. Even if Congress flips then, I think you might see a ton of lame-duck legislation in a huge hurry.
Still boggles my mind that the Democratic Party, given its historic post-WW2 opposition to armed conflict, is the spearhead of military aid to Ukraine. These are strange times indeed.
Fortunately, no. I know this from professional experience.
The world outlawed chemical munitions. Russia got rid of theres very quickly (I suspect by dumping them in a river somewhere or something equally safe).
The US destroys them very methodically at two Chemical Agent Processing Plants. Blue Grass and Pueblo CAPPs.
I have no doubt you heard explosions from Redstone, but those were probably AT missiles being tested.
Medina is mostly a weapons range and Special Forces Training facility. Been on it many times for training. Our Nuclear weapons now are mostly in Nebraska, Wyoming, Missouri, New Mexico, and the Dakotas. Nellis is always rumored to have some but I’ve never ever heard of their security forces being trained in guarding them. Maybe they do maybe they don’t. Don’t really know any that are outside of that since the minot-Barksdale mishap and several Stratcom commanders trying to get nukes out of highly populated areas.
Now Fort Sam Houston and Camp Bullis has active UXOs on it and much of it you can’t go on because of it. If you go on either it has a very Cold War feeling to it. Medina really is kinda like “a Shopette and a training area”. It’s only real purpose is to not have parents of graduating airmen wandering in places that they aren’t supposed to and interfering with live training and keep them oohing and ahhing at Lackland.
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If you live near Camp Bullis, your house will shake sometimes with the training that goes on there. Very active live training base.
That is good to hear that destruction of chemical weapons is done methodically. I have been to the AT test range and seen firing there. Over the last week in fact large plumes of smoke and unusually loud booms were reported at the test site.
Of course NASA had conducted static firings from the early 50's onward through the Saturn V which could be felt within a 25 mile radius.
There is some destruction of munitions that occurs but agree that it is difficult to distinguish from a distance between a firing and explosion of a warhead down range.
I lived on it for 3 weeks and yeah I can attest to it. The Army and Air Force basically use it to fire their heavy weaponry and do desert warfare training. You always hear explosions and heavy weaponry gunfire.
When I went to the impact area at Dugway Proving Grounds, Utah, range control gave us a safety summary sheet. That sheet said (paraphrasing here because it has been a long time), "Area D had 147,000 chemical mortar rounds fired into it between 1957 and 1965. Area D has been surface cleared for duds." Dugway is a desert, so any place that has been "surface cleared for duds" today could have lots of duds on the surface tomorrow.
We were issued real mask filters (not the cheaper training ones) and real atropine injectors.
My comment to my teammates was, "Guys, don't kick anything that looks like a dud. That might be something nasty."
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