So the Michigan v OSU game has been canceled. Notre Dame has twice as many games as OSU. They haven't played enough games to qualify IMO. NCAA requires at least 6 games to qualify for a bowl game. Tell me why OSU should be in the playoffs? How many games do I think? Maybe if they've played 8. Even of they play a 6th game and go undefeated i don't see it.
Question: Should OSU be in the playoffs?
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It all comes down to most deserving versus best teams, and I honestly I don't know what the criteria is. If it's most deserving, then they don't get in, but if it's best teams, then they get in. I'd rather have to play Clemson, ND, A&M or Florida in a semifinal than OSU.
Personally, I say no, they don't deserve to be in the playoff. However, ADs from Big 10 are meeting and likely will change their own rule of requiring 6 games...thereby moving the goal posts...so that Ohio State can make the title game at 5-0.
They'll win that, be 6-0. The other playoff contenders will have played twice as many games or almost twice as many. Who is at fault for that? The Big 10 playing politics while the other conferences, besides the Pac 10, were planning a season. Their conference leaders painted themselves into a corner and should have to be accountable for that.
Ohio State has played no one with a pulse outside Indiana. Plus the Big 10 has an insane 21 day covid rule...what happens if they make the playoff and have an issue with covid?
They'll win that, be 6-0. The other playoff contenders will have played twice as many games or almost twice as many. Who is at fault for that? The Big 10 playing politics while the other conferences, besides the Pac 10, were planning a season. Their conference leaders painted themselves into a corner and should have to be accountable for that.
Ohio State has played no one with a pulse outside Indiana. Plus the Big 10 has an insane 21 day covid rule...what happens if they make the playoff and have an issue with covid?
To me it also goes what constutes a season? The 6 game bowl game eligibility is based upon winning 6 out of 11 to 12 games. I think to qualify for post season should at least play 10 games. BTW I'm not opposed to moving the playoffs to accommodate the Big 10 to allow them to get their games in, but not the Pac 12.
Ohio State has played 5 teams, 4 of which have a losing record. How can anyone say they are one of the 4 best teams with so little data? The Big 10 wants to play for all the glory without any of the work. Let them pass out the participation trophies among themselves.
I guess it's just me but......shouldn't the CFP have decided on some criteria AT THE START of the season?
And shouldn't the Big Ten STICK WITH their pre-season criteria?
It seems to me to do otherwise is unfair to BOTH Ohio State AND the other eligibles.
And shouldn't the Big Ten STICK WITH their pre-season criteria?
It seems to me to do otherwise is unfair to BOTH Ohio State AND the other eligibles.
I agree. Let Indiana play in the B1GCG, and let OSU play someone else next week.
You’re going off the “best team” model vs “most deserving” model, which I almost always adhere to as well. I generally think the four best should be duking it out on the field. And Ohio State is probably one of the four best. But as we all know, this year’s different, and because of only five games on the schedule, only one of which is significant, we simply don’t know.
I think it was Jordan Rodgers who said this last Saturday that this year it should be “the four best among the most deserving”. I think I agree with that this year and this year only. A five game resume with four of them being throw-away games simply doesn’t pass that first test, before we even get to the results of Bama/Florida or ND/Clemson.
But for the sake of discussion, let’s say both Bama and ND win. If you take the position as I do that OSU is not among the most deserving, who then do you put in along with Bama, Notre Dame, and likely Texas A&M? Iowa State? Cincinnati?
I’ve generally got nothing against the B1G or OSU. In fact, I think the B1G and the SEC are the only decent football conferences, and OSU is a hell of a program, right up there with Bama and Clemson of late. I just can’t put them in a four team playoff with only five games on the resume and only one of those five being significant. I would feel the same way if it were Bama.
Kevin Warren and the school presidents really screwed the conference by not building enough flexibility into the schedule. Not enough margin for error.
With only 6 wins... No. There are consequences for actions taken. The Big 10 Conference made some questionable decisions at the start of the season. IMO they shouldn't get a pass for poor management decisions that left no room to handle rescheduling they had to know would be almost inevitable.
But... if OSU were to play aTm and win, then win the Big 10 championshop game... then yeah... they should be in the final 4.
But... if OSU were to play aTm and win, then win the Big 10 championshop game... then yeah... they should be in the final 4.
I don't like it at this stage of the game... 5 games vs. the other contenders playing 10 or 11? I don't like it. It's not fair, and I realize Ohio State cannot help it. They would have been playing in September if they would have been allowed. This is the abject failure of the Big Ten. This is the result of the hubris of the leaders of that conference. Their arrogance and inability to work past the politics of the day to find real and good solutions to the problems they were presented with.
However, IF OSU is allowed in, because of the logic that they are obviously one of the 4 best teams (which I agree with), then I do not ever want to hear another word about Alabama getting in without winning their conference. NOT. ANOTHER. WORD. A major problem we have in our society today is that we can pick out the biases of those we do not agree with, but we cannot see our own. Indeed, when we are called out on it, we throw up bull crap reasoning to excuse ourselves of our bias. I am already seeing this from sports media personalities who have been against Alabama's inclusion in the years they lost one game and failed to make the SEC title game, but now they are totally fine with OSU making it in after only playing 5 games.
And I get the fact that Alabama had a loss in those years, while OSU is undefeated. However, OSU has not even played the games. This is worse than playing a tough game and losing it, in the midst of a full season.
Edited: I put 5 games when OSU has played 6. Otherwise, I still feel the same way.
However, IF OSU is allowed in, because of the logic that they are obviously one of the 4 best teams (which I agree with), then I do not ever want to hear another word about Alabama getting in without winning their conference. NOT. ANOTHER. WORD. A major problem we have in our society today is that we can pick out the biases of those we do not agree with, but we cannot see our own. Indeed, when we are called out on it, we throw up bull crap reasoning to excuse ourselves of our bias. I am already seeing this from sports media personalities who have been against Alabama's inclusion in the years they lost one game and failed to make the SEC title game, but now they are totally fine with OSU making it in after only playing 5 games.
And I get the fact that Alabama had a loss in those years, while OSU is undefeated. However, OSU has not even played the games. This is worse than playing a tough game and losing it, in the midst of a full season.
Edited: I put 5 games when OSU has played 6. Otherwise, I still feel the same way.
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I won't say they 'should' be in the CFB Playoff....
But the eye test says they are one of the Best 4 teams.... for me anyway.
Just about everyone here knows they would beat Florida, A&M, and ND head to head.... easily. Fields is going to win the QB duel in all those matchups..... again.... easily.
Right now I'm only going to say Alabama and maybe Clemson are better (Clemson vs tOSU is a 50/50 coinflip).
But they've only played 5 games.... I get why people would think it's unfair.
But the eye test says they are one of the Best 4 teams.... for me anyway.
Just about everyone here knows they would beat Florida, A&M, and ND head to head.... easily. Fields is going to win the QB duel in all those matchups..... again.... easily.
Right now I'm only going to say Alabama and maybe Clemson are better (Clemson vs tOSU is a 50/50 coinflip).
But they've only played 5 games.... I get why people would think it's unfair.
Herbstriet on his ESPN podcast declared ND is in wether they win or lose. If Bama lost they would be compared to OSU for the final spot. This was based on the Tide losing in the SEC chip and Clemson beating ND. Things could get interesting in that doomsday scenario.
They're probably a better overall team than Florida but there's just not enough on field action to make a solid evaluation. If UF pulls off an upset or plays Bama to a squeaker they'll prolly be left out IMO.
I can't see it. If we lose to Florida, and ND loses to Clemson, your playoff is likely:
1. Clemson vs. 4. Notre Dame
3. Alabama vs. 2. Florida
I feel like we have the best resume based on quality wins and would qualify even with a loss in the final. Pollack also stated our resume was good.
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