Hey, I'm with you - I have an AR pattern rifle, but it would only be my choice to defend my home if I didn't have a pistol or shotgun handy. I think AR rifles are largely unnecessary in the US.
My point here is that you literally have an estimated 100+ million AR rifles in the US and literally a few are used for ill annually
I had no idea but I cannot find anything to substantiate these numbers. I literally know of three people who own AR rifles and one guy owns two.
how many deaths does it take before these rifles are safe?
I’m not sure I understand the question. I assume you mean so few deaths are caused by AR rifles relative to other kinds of firearms that they are safe by comparison. If that is your point, I don’t understand what one has to do with the other. I’m just trying to make it harder to mass murder people.
If your point is that no lives lives would be saved by banning these AR guns, that sounds like a guess. If you’re wrong, it costs lives. If I’m wrong, it’s kept millions of people from having a good time with a sporting gun. The second amendment is safe.
Remember, VT was all pistols. A vast (and I mean VAST) majority of people killed int he US every year are killed with pistols, yet people focus on the AR due to these few horrific incidents. It just seems a bit disingenuous, honestly.
Like it or not, the AR (ArmaLite Rifle) looks to some of us like a weapon meant to kill people rather than squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs, and deer. It just doesn’t look like a hunting rifle and the military look, style, and efficiency of the gun may be what is prompting some of these assassins to choose this style of gun. So the emotional why has this particular style of weapon been chosen multiple times in mass shootings becomes part of the equation.
I realize pistols kill the most people, but the AR seems to be the weapon of choice for some of these mass murderers.
I guess the sticking point for many is that we're talking about curtailing (to what degree is up for debate - I could live without my AR, no problem - I literally only use it for fun at the range) an enumerated right that is enjoyed by millions and millions of people over what amounts to a rare occurrence. Again, these shootings are horrific, but according tot he FBI, more people are killed with hammers and baseball bats each year than AR rifles.
But there is no history of mass murder happening consistently with hammers and baseball bats. We’re trying to address these specific types of events that keep occurring with this AR rifle.
So for some folks, "what harm can it do" doesn't make the cut wrt curtailing the right to keep and bear arms.
I’m simply trying to make mass murder less efficient. The reasons I’ve come across that people want these type guns pale in comparison to the tragedy of loss of life, loss of loved ones, and the frustration felt by every citizen who does not understand why this type of gun is legal in the first place, and why nothing is being done to make them illegal. For me, it has zero to do with the second amendment.
Note - I'm simply sharing what some of my firearm-owning friends think about this. They look around and see so much more happening and wonder why people are so fixated on one statistically tiny aspect of the gun violence problem in the US.
I’m about eight beers in, sitting in a motel room after having driven 650 miles today. So if some of this makes no sense, I’m not surprised.:blush: Be that as it may, no hunting rifle needs a large capacity magazine. That restriction may be a good place to start. But IMO, the very appearance of the AR gun should not be underestimated.