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Bamabuzzard said:
It could be possible getting out of the SEC especially not going to UGA was to keep from the side/clown show of playing Bama, him and his family probably getting harassed via text and online. It was a smart move on their part where he csn concentrate on football and not the other "stuff" that would have definitely came with goingb to UGA
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I know I said I wouldn’t wish him well, but I have no animosity toward him . By all accounts, he is a good kid. I’m a little surprised he transferred , He was always with Terrion Arnold and Jalen Milroe In pictures around Tuscaloosa. But I digress. He is gone, one of them , not one of Us.
 
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CajunCrimson said:
These threads really test my sanity. I don’t understand the venom for kids you don’t know
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"Fan" is, after all, short for "fanatic." We're emotionally invested in the team in a way that, as you rightly point out, there's no reason for these kids to be.

Nowadays, with all the recruiting boards and sites like this one, we follow some of the kids from the time they're sophomores and juniors in high school. Recruiting has become almost its own sport, with fans almost as excited about signing a 5-star athlete as they are about winning a big rivalry game. There's the SEC championship, the National Championship, and the recruiting championship.

Most of us have never seen Julian Sayin throw a ball in a crimson jersey but we were excited that he was here and reveled in the reports of how good he was during the bowl practice. Now, he's abandoned us.

We cheered for Downs and Bond and, suddenly, they've gone on to greener pastures.

A couple of days ago, Facebook was showing me ads for a print with the 4th and 31 pass that won the Iron Bowl. I wasn't going to buy it, anyway, but that play's status in Alabama lore is now forever changed because Bond was one-and-done here.

Rationally, I totally get why the kids would leave. They came to play for the GOAT and he abandoned them. Viscerally, though, I'm mad about it and hope they forever regret the decision to transfer.
 
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davefrat said:
Meh.

To me its just a game and at my age they’re all still just kids.
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Unfortunately I'm starting to view them as adults because they wanted so bad to be in the adult world, having the same options of leaving when they want, making as much money as they can negotiate and putting themselves above the program. Which is fine, but it changes how I view them. I've been an independent adult for 28 years and though being an adult comes with its perks it also comes with its downsides. I don't get treated with kiddie gloves in my mistakes or decisions that put others in bad spots like a kid would. I've long understood that and accepted it and I can't have it both ways...
 
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bamaga said:
They say Kirby was on campus a week ago?? Paying respects to Nick? Why didn’t he go to his house? This reported on campus recruiting of our players just isn’t right. Oh sure, coaches can say they weren’t recruiting, but we know how ‘chance’ meetings happen.

anyway, Caleb Downs may have gone to OSU for 2 reasons, one is because NIL, but two to get out of the SEC so he wouldn’t have to play Bama . Did he ever make a statement on his transfer?
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Seems very Harbaughesque
 
Question for anyone, I heard on one of the shows that Downs is a freshman, he has 4 more years of eligibility. It is a moot point, I’m sure he will enter the draft after his Junior year. Surely the COVID rules don’t apply to someone that enrolled in 2023.
These guys on shows should have a basic understanding of college sports. I heard one guy make the comment about the Texas coach /UCF basketball game controversy That the BIG 12 made a rule about the Horns down sign, but it’s not enforceable in this case because UCF isn't in the Big 12 .
 
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Day was in Alabama Friday... recruiting/poaching players.
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If he or Kirby step foot on campus with that intent, it is tampering.................I'd have someone following them and recording everything they do, then bust them. Escort them off the campus.............and if its suddenly allowed, we send people to their campus and do the same........
 
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bamaga said:
Question for anyone, I heard on one of the shows that Downs is a freshman, he has 4 more years of eligibility. It is a moot point, I’m sure he will enter the draft after his Junior year. Surely the COVID rules don’t apply to someone that enrolled in 2023.
These guys on shows should have a basic understanding of college sports. I heard one guy make the comment about the Texas coach /UCF basketball game controversy That the BIG 12 made a rule about the Horns down sign, but it’s not enforceable in this case because UCF isn't in the Big 12 .
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He played at Bama as a true freshman.

He's got 4 more years to play 3, according to the redshirt rule.

He'll play two more years and be a high first rounder most likely.
 
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BamaMoon said:
He played at Bama as a true freshman.

He's got 4 more years to play 3, according to the redshirt rule.

He'll play two more years and be a high first rounder most likely.
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but he isn’t playing 4 more years, these act like he is playing 4 more years. no way he is taking a redshirt to stay in school 4 years, 2 and done.
 
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BamaInBham said:
Things can always change, but Ryan Day has wasted more talent than Les MIles, though Day is a better coach. I thought Day was going to be a great coach but his teams have proven to be physically and mentally weak.

I read a quote from Day a couple of, maybe 4, years ago where he stated that everything that OSU did was with beating Alabama in mind. It looks like his focus or obsession with Alabama, if still true, has caused him to make some bad decisions. Though O'Brien is not as bad as many charge, IMO, there are many better choices for OC. Downs is a great player, Sayin may be. Seth was toast at Alabama, maybe turning the page will help him, or just better coaching. Judkins is a cancer. Now there is not much fear of OSU, even with all of their talent, because of Day. His play-calling late vs UGA was criminal. They didn't even need to make any plays, just run the ball a few more times and DON'T GET SACKED, then kick the short-med FG. You knew their kicker was going to miss the unnecessarily long FG, just like you knew Reichard would miss vs UT and A&M & AU. Those two teams were 8 year old girls mentally.
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If, by wasted, you mean did not win a championship, I agree. But we were one play away from winning a championship 2 years in a row, so he has been no more a failure over that span than Saban.
 
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CajunCrimson said:
These threads really test my sanity. I don’t understand the venom for kids you don’t know

Why would any of these kids who never lived in Alabama, and wouldn’t have come here for any other reason than to play for The GOAT, be expected to have loyalty to a team that has no other emotional pull other than the coach?

Now, imagine you lost your coach and the rules at play allow any other team to recruit you and pay you (what amounts to) any sum necessary to get you to go?

who, in their right mind, wouldn’t listen? And if the amount was enough, wouldn’t go?

i love Bama, but if Sark offered me $5M to never watch another Bama football game and get rid of my Bama stuff?

Heh
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I’m going with Shank here, as far as the “what if you lost your coach…” part:
What about your teammates? It’s a team, remember? You went to war with them every Saturday, but that obviously doesn’t mean much.
I get the NPT’s - they came to Bama to play. But the ones who’ve started or played, not so much.
I know it’s changed - used to be, the commitment was to your coach and teammates and also the institution (funny, the one thing that will always be there); there is no commitment to any of those in some cases, but I can’t separate the commitment to coach and team. Coaches are going to leave 90% of the time, at some point; and although certain other players may, as well, the team won’t. Any player at Bama not committed to both should leave - they shouldn’t be at Bama IMO. But if you leave and say it’s because the coach left (especially in this case-if Bama had hired a Ron Zook, it’s iffy) you’re bailing on your teammates as well. If you had no commitment to them you shouldn’t be on the team.
Some folks still don’t get how money is corrupting all of this, pretty much like everywhere it sticks it’s nasty green hands.
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
Unfortunately I'm starting to view them as adults because they wanted so bad to be in the adult world, having the same options of leaving when they want, making as much money as they can negotiate and putting themselves above the program. Which is fine, but it changes how I view them. I've been an independent adult for 28 years and though being an adult comes with its perks it also comes with its downsides. I don't get treated with kiddie gloves in my mistakes or decisions that put others in bad spots like a kid would. I've long understood that and accepted it and I can't have it both ways...
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Everything you say is true, but I'm also guessing that your decisions aren't dissected and analyzed by overzealous fanatics who seem to live and die based on your actions and decisions. Should they be treated as adults if they want these benefits? Sure, I have no problem with that. Should people obsess over athletes, singers, actors, etc.? No, it's ridiculous.
 
I’ve never heard whether Downs had a deal to get paid while he was at Bama. I imagine he was but I don’t know for sure.
I just wondered how much he was clearing while at Bama and if that wasn’t enough, what did his new team‘s boosters have to pay?
 
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