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Transfer Portal 2023-24, v2

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A couple of recruiting gurus are predicting Ed Woods to MSU. I guess we have to wait and see.
 
Krymsonman said:
Yeah, I looked at it and that outgoing list is a whole lot longer than the incoming list.
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Yep

I wasn't really trying to make a commentary on it other than that part of it alone.

I haven't closely followed how many we lost to the NFL or Graduation or how many we signed from HS.

But just Portal talk we are at a large deficit.

I'm hoping it's just an anomoly for this one off-season because of CNS retiring.

I'll admit though I thought we were going to have a bunch of 'Ins' after Spring and for whatever reason(s) it just didn't happen.
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
Once a player is in their second year of college football their HS rankings (IMO) are completely irrelevant. Those rankings are for current status coming out of HS, it's accuracy for future status is very loosely translated and many times are inaccurate. There are a lot of four and five-star players that once they get into their college career do not live up to the hype of their ranking. It doesn't mean they "sucked" or had a bad career, but they didn't make the impact their HS recruiting profile projected.
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Some people put way too much emphasis on the star ratings. Some seem to think that if a player isn't a 4* or 5* Bama shouldn't consider them. Coach Bryant said he couldn't define a winning player but he knew one when he saw them. We need to trust the coaches in their evaluations.
 
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Pretty sure I read yesterday that we're currently at 84 on scholarship. It hurts seeing potentially good players transfer out but it's absolutely necessary. The portal closes tonight for new entries but there are still good players in the portal that will pick new schools over the next few days/weeks.

Our roster seems heavy on young, talented, but inexperienced players. We need some bridge guys even if they aren't every down players. I see a future where the top teams (Bama) take fewer HS players, may 18-20 each year, and fill out the roster gaps with experienced transfers.
 
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westide said:
Some people put way too much emphasis on the star ratings. Some seem to think that if a player isn't a 4* or 5* Bama shouldn't consider them. Coach Bryant said he couldn't define a winning player but he knew one when he saw them. We need to trust the coaches in their evaluations.
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Read an article earlier this morning on the list of 5* guys that didn't get drafted. One of them was originally ours (Eyabi Anoma).
 
westide said:
I remember when Bama signed Javier Arenas some people were upset because they had never heard of him and he wasn't highly ranked. At first, I felt the same way. I watched his high school film and thought this guy can play. He turned out alright. Years ago, Southern Miss had some very good teams with some outstanding players. I wondered why some of them had not gone to Bama. In most cases, Bama didn't want them. They were underweight, not tall enough, and not highly rated, but the So. Miss coaches saw potential and developed it. The ratings can be beneficial in evaluating players, but they don't tell the whole story. Each year there are players who are 5* who never pan out. We need to trust the coaches and their evaluations.
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Way back (maybe mid-80's, early 90's ?), the SEC allowed only two "partial qualifiers" each year in football recruiting. At that time, Southern Miss did not have that restriction. Many good players that did not meet the full academic requirements would have likely gone to Alabama or another SEC school but this limit left them out. USM picked up a number of good players from this pool of partial qualifiers.
 
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Tacario Davis, a very good DB at Arizona entered the portal back in January. He went through spring practice and is still on the team but has not withdrawn from the portal. It just seems odd. Has anyone heard any more info on him?
 
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gtgilbert said:
well, the new scheme runs a 5th DB just as much as Saban did. I think it might have something to do with Red Morgan stepping up and getting reps ahead of Woodyard as a change in system.
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I think this has something to do with it and I also think he was homesick. His position coach spoke about this pertaining to Woodyard when interviewed during spring practice.
 
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Tacario Davis, a very good DB at Arizona entered the portal back in January. He went through spring practice and is still on the team but has not withdrawn from the portal. It just seems odd. Has anyone heard any more info on him?
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That is odd and no. But I'm certain we will be looking at a corner or maybe a safety. Depending on where they project Harmon to play.

We could go after McClain but teams have seemed to steer clear of him so far
 
Bamabuzzard said:
Once a player is in their second year of college football their HS rankings (IMO) are completely irrelevant. Those rankings are for current status coming out of HS, it's accuracy for future status is very loosely translated and many times are inaccurate. There are a lot of four and five-star players that once they get into their college career do not live up to the hype of their ranking. It doesn't mean they "sucked" or had a bad career, but they didn't make the impact their HS recruiting profile projected.
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Agreed. On3 now puts the HS ranking and the transfer portal ranking. Some go up, some go down and some stay the same. For example, Proctor was a 5* on both and Brockermeyer was a 4* in HS and a 3* in the portal.
 
TiderJack said:
Agreed. On3 now puts the HS ranking and the transfer portal ranking. Some go up, some go down and some stay the same. For example, Proctor was a 5* on both and Brockermeyer was a 4* in HS and a 3* in the portal.
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Yeah, I like the "re-ranking" idea. As you see some of the NFL "re-drafts" several years after the actual draft, once the players have played several years in the NFL it becomes obvious if they were to "re-do" the draft, there would be players not taken anywhere close to where they were originally drafted. I think the recruiting rankings are a lot like that.
 
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TiderJack said:
It does close today but if I'm not mistaken if you are already in the portal you can commit at any time before the summer semester.
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Yes players have til midnight to get into the portal, schools have 48 hours to get the name entered.

And once in the portal they have til summer school starts ( or maybe fall) to enroll. So recruiting in the portal will continue for a while.

Graduate transfers have until Wednesday to enter the portal btw.
 
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TheRealPokeChop said:
That is odd and no. But I'm certain we will be looking at a corner or maybe a safety. Depending on where they project Harmon to play.

We could go after McClain but teams have seemed to steer clear of him so far
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All he needs to do is look at Terrion Arnold and Kool-Aid. If he puts in the work and does what he needs to do he will be rewarded. Unfortunately, some players don't get it. They want to take short cuts and usually end up short circuiting their career.
 
westide said:
All he needs to do is look at Terrion Arnold and Kool-Aid. If he puts in the work and does what he needs to do he will be rewarded. Unfortunately, some players don't get it. They want to take short cuts and usually end up short circuiting their career.
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If he won’t straighten out enough to listen to a black head coach who has been everywhere and is everything he wants to be on an NFL football field, what in the world makes you think he will listen to anyone else?
 
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