Question: Two Questions regarding Bo Scarbrough

[AJDawg]

Hello again TideFans.
Wanted to ask:
=> Did Bo Scarbrough have to undergo surgery following the NC game? How's he recovering. In all honesty that guy is a complete Beast and Runaway train. Very seldom do you see a sculpted guy that can run that fast.
=> I remember seeing that Bo went to IMG academy in Bradenton Florida. That's an interesting place. Essentially you go there to get the absolute best coaching and guidance when you're a HS athlete. If you're very good you don't even pay tuition or room & board. I wonder if this model is going to become more common. As far as I know there is no place out here or on the W.Coast that is constructed that way. What do you guys think? Have you had other players from IMG?

Good luck for Spring Football.

 

[Ledsteplin]

It was a non surgical fracture to his right lower leg. He should be ready to go in September.

 

[LA4Bama]

Hello again TideFans.
Wanted to ask:
=> Did Bo Scarbrough have to undergo surgery following the NC game? How's he recovering. In all honesty that guy is a complete Beast and Runaway train. Very seldom do you see a sculpted guy that can run that fast.
=> I remember seeing that Bo went to IMG academy in Bradenton Florida. That's an interesting place. Essentially you go there to get the absolute best coaching and guidance when you're a HS athlete. If you're very good you don't even pay tuition or room & board. I wonder if this model is going to become more common. As far as I know there is no place out here or on the W.Coast that is constructed that way. What do you guys think? Have you had other players from IMG?

Good luck for Spring Football.

New linebacker Moses was at IMG. Scarbrough is from Tuscaloosa so IMG played little into bama's ability to recruit him. Moses however was from Louisiana and it didn't hurt that he was away from home.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

This is an interesting post...

 

[gtgilbert]

New linebacker Moses was at IMG. Scarbrough is from Tuscaloosa so IMG played little into bama's ability to recruit him. Moses however was from Louisiana and it didn't hurt that he was away from home.

new snapper came through IMG also. it is an interesting model in that it gets kids used to the idea of playing away from home and so would likely increase the number of them that head out of their home state to play.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Hello again TideFans.
Wanted to ask:
=> Did Bo Scarbrough have to undergo surgery following the NC game? How's he recovering. In all honesty that guy is a complete Beast and Runaway train. Very seldom do you see a sculpted guy that can run that fast.
=> I remember seeing that Bo went to IMG academy in Bradenton Florida. That's an interesting place. Essentially you go there to get the absolute best coaching and guidance when you're a HS athlete. If you're very good you don't even pay tuition or room & board. I wonder if this model is going to become more common. As far as I know there is no place out here or on the W.Coast that is constructed that way. What do you guys think? Have you had other players from IMG?

Good luck for Spring Football.

Ole Miss' new quarterback for 2017 (Shea Patterson) left his highschool team high and dry right before the season started to go to IMG Academy. I don't know how common it will become to go to places like IMG. But if it does then we're moving toward a model that could potentially hurt the quality of highschool football. Much like travel league teams for baseball have all but killed the Little League Baseball/Dixie Youth Leagues that many of us grew up in. I say "killed" meaning it has sucked the talent out of these leagues.

 

[day-day]

Oak Hill Academy in Virginia comes to mind for basketball. I think there are these types of boarding schools all over the US; many concentrating on sports but not always football or basketball; other sports like swimming, tennis, golf, soccer, etc.

I don't know where the schools that give scholarships get the money. Local private schools give tuition scholarships to athletes; at least around where I live.

 

[bamamc1]

Ole Miss' new quarterback for 2017 (Shea Patterson) left his highschool team high and dry right before the season started to go to IMG Academy. I don't know how common it will become to go to places like IMG. But if it does then we're moving toward a model that could potentially hurt the quality of highschool football. Much like travel league teams for baseball have all but killed the Little League Baseball/Dixie Youth Leagues that many of us grew up in. I say "killed" meaning it has sucked the talent out of these leagues.

I just can't imagine not finishing up high school playing with the guys you've been with since you were 8 years old. I was involved in college baseball and get a big kick out of all this "travel ball" that is played now. People need to realize there are only 13 baseball scholarships to give out. lol

 

[RTR91]

Oak Hill Academy in Virginia comes to mind for basketball. I think there are these types of boarding schools all over the US; many concentrating on sports but not always football or basketball; other sports like swimming, tennis, golf, soccer, etc.

I don't know where the schools that give scholarships get the money. Local private schools give tuition scholarships to athletes; at least around where I live.

One possible place for the scholarship at IMG would be the money made off pro players paying to train at the facility during the off season. Many guys getting ready for the NFL draft are down there training. I don't know if that goes to the scholarship fund or not.

My coworker's son was contacted by someone at IMG to gauge his interest. The cost for someone not using school housing is $50,000 a year. If you decide live in the school housing, you pay $75,000. That's unreal.

 

[B1GTide]

One possible place for the scholarship at IMG would be the money made off pro players paying to train at the facility during the off season. Many guys getting ready for the NFL draft are down there training. I don't know if that goes to the scholarship fund or not.

My coworker's son was contacted by someone at IMG to gauge his interest. The cost for someone not using school housing is $50,000 a year. If you decide live in the school housing, you pay $75,000. That's unreal.

Yep - a friend of a friend has a son at IMG and is paying just north of $75k. That number is real.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I just can't imagine not finishing up high school playing with the guys you've been with since you were 8 years old. I was involved in college baseball and get a big kick out of all this "travel ball" that is played now. People need to realize there are only 13 baseball scholarships to give out. lol

A friend of mine has a daughter who is a very, very good fast pitch softball player. He is not an advocate of travel ball but is basically forced to participate if his daughter wants to play competitive softball. Her other two options are to play locally or not play at all. She played locally for one season and pitched a no hitter in every game she pitched and almost had a perfect batting average. She was bored out of her mind because she was playing against horribly inferior talent.

The same thing is happening in youth baseball. I've been told if your kid is any good and plays for the local league (Dixie Youth or Little League) he will be playing against inferior talent and will get bored. Now the people who choose to play in those league will love having "your kid" because it means he will probably help them win their league. But it's because the other teams are so devoid of talent due to travel league ball.

 

[B1GTide]

A friend of mine has a daughter who is a very, very good fast pitch softball player. He is not an advocate of travel ball but is basically forced to participate if his daughter wants to play competitive softball. Her other two options are to play locally or not play at all. She played locally for one season and pitched a no hitter in every game she pitched and almost had a perfect batting average. She was bored out of her mind because she was playing against horribly inferior talent.

The same thing is happening in youth baseball. I've been told if your kid is any good and plays for the local league (Dixie Youth or Little League) he will be playing against inferior talent and will get bored. Now the people who choose to play in those league will love having "your kid" because it means he will probably help them win their league. But it's because the other teams are so devoid of talent due to travel league ball.

IMG also has a very focused academic program. My friend's friend sent his son there to correct his academic issues.

 

[TrampLineman]

A friend of mine has a daughter who is a very, very good fast pitch softball player. He is not an advocate of travel ball but is basically forced to participate if his daughter wants to play competitive softball. Her other two options are to play locally or not play at all. She played locally for one season and pitched a no hitter in every game she pitched and almost had a perfect batting average. She was bored out of her mind because she was playing against horribly inferior talent.

The same thing is happening in youth baseball. I've been told if your kid is any good and plays for the local league (Dixie Youth or Little League) he will be playing against inferior talent and will get bored. Now the people who choose to play in those league will love having "your kid" because it means he will probably help them win their league. But it's because the other teams are so devoid of talent due to travel league ball.

My nephew plays travel ball, and they could easily beat the Junior High team he plays on much less Dixie Youth/LL/Cal Ripken.

 

[CrimsonProf]

I read this stuff and it makes me hate everything.


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[Bamabuzzard]

My nephew plays travel ball, and they could easily beat the Junior High team he plays on much less Dixie Youth/LL/Cal Ripken.

Yeah, it's bad. My son is playing his first year of organized baseball this year at the age of 9 and they called me this evening to tell me they are putting him on the 10 year old team. I signed him up for Little League which is the weakest of the local organized leagues. Seeing that he's never played I want him to get familiar with just playing the game in general, learning the fundamentals and still having the opportunity to get playing time. Even though he will be the least experienced kid on the team. He's never played organized baseball, just picked up a bat and glove a few months ago and is about six to eight months of practicing and playing in real games from passing the best players on his team. Who have been playing for three years. He's already better than half the players on his team.

I'm not trying to be arrogant about my son just pointing out the talent deficiency on his team and in the league in general. The truly talented kids who would be playing on his team play travel ball. My wife and I have already sworn off travel ball. Unless we can find a "travel" team that plays within a 50 mile radius for all their games. He'll just have to play in the weaker leagues around here until he gets to junior high and high school. I'm not dumping that kind of money into what it takes to participate in travel ball.

 

[BamaFlum]

Ole Miss' new quarterback for 2017 (Shea Patterson) left his highschool team high and dry right before the season started to go to IMG Academy. I don't know how common it will become to go to places like IMG. But if it does then we're moving toward a model that could potentially hurt the quality of highschool football. Much like travel league teams for baseball have all but killed the Little League Baseball/Dixie Youth Leagues that many of us grew up in. I say "killed" meaning it has sucked the talent out of these leagues.

QB at our school did the same. He's committed to the Aggies now.


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[LA4Bama]

I read this stuff and it makes me hate everything.


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That explains a lot!

 

[Tug Tide]

Yeah, it's bad. My son is playing his first year of organized baseball this year at the age of 9 and they called me this evening to tell me they are putting him on the 10 year old team. I signed him up for Little League which is the weakest of the local organized leagues. Seeing that he's never played I want him to get familiar with just playing the game in general, learning the fundamentals and still having the opportunity to get playing time. Even though he will be the least experienced kid on the team. He's never played organized baseball, just picked up a bat and glove a few months ago and is about six to eight months of practicing and playing in real games from passing the best players on his team. Who have been playing for three years. He's already better than half the players on his team.

I'm not trying to be arrogant about my son just pointing out the talent deficiency on his team and in the league in general. The truly talented kids who would be playing on his team play travel ball. My wife and I have already sworn off travel ball. Unless we can find a "travel" team that plays within a 50 mile radius for all their games. He'll just have to play in the weaker leagues around here until he gets to junior high and high school. I'm not dumping that kind of money and into what it takes to participate in travel ball.

Buzz,
You make some very valid points. My oldest some went LL tryouts at 8 for his first season. I was asked about him playing on a travel team that day. Wife and I talked it over and she was 8 months pregnant with our third son. So at the time we an 8 yo a 4 yo and a bun just about to come out of the oven.
Well, we decided to give it a shot and would do it over in a heartbeat. Can't really picture our life without it to be honest.
He is starting his sixth season with the same team, our core of 8 kids is the same as when they were 8. Of those 8, 6 will be heading to high school together to play, and the HS coach knows them all already. We're fortunate in that we have made life long friends out of our baseball family.
The financial side is a definite commitment, but we also offset quite a bit through sponsors. In the FL panhandle, we could play almost every weekend within an hour drive. In fact our first tournament starts Saturday in Ft Walton Beach and we usually have played 2 others by now. We have made season ending trips to play at Disney and Cal Ripken Experience in Myrtle Beach.
I totally get the aspect of some leagues going downhill, but our boys are playing against competition that you didn't see every game 20 years ago. It's basically an All Star tournament all season.
Again I see both sides of it and wish your son the best of luck this year.

 

[Tug Tide]

Pretty sure IMG started as Nick Bolliteri tennis school training some of the best of the 90's.

 

[Padreruf]

Pretty sure IMG started as Nick Bolliteri tennis school training some of the best of the 90's.

Yes it did. I played golf with a couple of their baseball coaches last year -- down in Bradenton. They were former major leaguers Tim Raines, Jr. and Calix Crabbes... Fantastic guys with a great perspective on high school athletics and the current state of youth athletics in general.

As a Dad who had 2 sons go through all of this and play major college sports -- one who was a two time 2nd Team All American -- let me offer a couple of words of unsolicited advice:

1. If your son is better than everyone around and superbly athletically gifted, you might consider team travel. The truth is that these are money makers for the towns that put them on. If your child is that good, then s/he will be discovered no matter where they play as a 12 year old.

2. Don't mortgage the home thinking that will help him/her a college scholarship. Save your money and send them to camp at the schools where they would like to play/attend. Much better use of limited financial resources.

3. Put athletics in perspective and don't let these things dominate your family. Enjoy when they are home...it passes all too quickly.

This is a great topic that needs open discussion...thanks for this thread.