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B1GTide said:
True enough, but he didn't pretend that he was doing anything else, either. He didn't hold a press conference to announce the suspensions or anything of the like. We only know about this because the community thought that it was important to them, and the story caught on.

Even a "smiling cat" can become popular on the web.
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yeah, i guess i should take my complaints to the local paper for their poor headline writing ;)
 
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Bad Pony said:
I've been on teams back in school where a couple of folks were goofing off and caused the entire team to run laps. We got on the ones goofing off probably more than the coaches...so yes, I think it is appropriate at times for this type of action.
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We used to call them "come to Jesus" meetings in the locker room.
 
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PalmBayBama said:
The facts don't support your thread hijack. From the article (that I doubt you read):With that in mid, here is my revision of your breakdown:

High Character/High Ability = Are happy to do community service and (gasp!) go to class. Play more than the average player, which is fair.

High Character/Low Ability = Are happy to do community service and (gasp!) go to class. They aren't going to be career athletes, so it's especially good that they're getting this character reinforcement.

Low Character/High Ability = They view this as a punishment. They won't play if they don't get with the program.

Low Character/Low Ability = They view this as a punishment. They won't play if they don't get with the program.
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Just when I think I'm out. Your revision is as far off as my post was using your logic, it is hard to fit everything in a 2x2 matrix I know, but Harvard loves those things.

I'm going to bet that a lot of High character goes are not really happy about having to do community service. Next I do not think a couple of days is going to change a Low Characters mindset.

So lets play the games by your rules.

High Character signs up to learn football, already does good in school. Now gets to learn (gasp!) picking up trash and going to school. Good thing he signed up for football. I would be willing to be come game day character will not mean crap when it comes to PT. Ray Lewis approves this message.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/tribpre...coach.html.csp
But the report of a possible cyber bullying incident was the last straw. A student went to the school’s administration with claims that he was being harassed online by people he believed were part of the football team. The harassment was anonymous, Labrum said, and while the coach did not believe the problem involved many players, he wanted to take a stand.
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Or get on TV.
 
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cbi1972 said:
Your "analysis" ignores the improvement of character through lessons learned.
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I agree because it is before, during the punishment; on the flip side would you agree that it also ignores regression from those we were already high character guys?
 
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Fine, you don't agree. I wonder if you are a team player or have ever played team sports. We got punished all the time as a team when someone screwed up. The punishment was even whether you were a good player or not. Atleast that is how it was when I was playing. We played as a team. Held each other accountable, unlike today when we are not taight accountablilty. You are also assuming that if someone has high character then they must not be getting much playing time. That is a factor that you nor I know. The players that have caused the team punishment could be the ones that are not doing the things neccessary to earn playing time. You are just making an argument just to argue.
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I asked him this on page 3 or 4 and he did not answer. I'm starting to think he is a professional contrarian.
 
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92tide said:
yeah, i guess i should take my complaints to the local paper for their poor headline writing ;)
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Make sure that you blame the editors, as they are the ones that dictate the headlines. The reporter always gets blamed, even though they play no role it that decision.

The reporter's job is to report. The editor's job is to increase circulation. Sensationalism works.

(Also actually reading the article works. Not sure this part belongs in blue.)

This part does:

We can give obtuse posters AU avatars......................
 
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My son who is 9 years old fall baseball team was told to run laps because the 3rd baseman missed a pop fly. I pulled my son off the field and told the coach he would not run. I was a assist coach on this team and still am. My point was 9 years old is to young to make run, it's just a game and last my son didn't miss it he will not run because of someone us. I'm sorry but that's dumb should your child go to jail cause his classmate did something wrong?
I understand team but this is 2013 get in the real world its me me and it will always be. The team doesn't go pro when one player is good only the player does......
 
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Roll Tide Roll 17 said:
My son who is 9 years old fall baseball team was told to run laps because the 3rd baseman missed a pop fly. I pulled my son off the field and told the coach he would not run. I was a assist coach on this team and still am. My point was 9 years old is to young to make run, it's just a game and last my son didn't miss it he will not run because of someone us. I'm sorry but that's dumb should your child go to jail cause his classmate did something wrong?
I understand team but this is 2013 get in the real world its me me and it will always be. The team doesn't go pro when one player is good only the player does......
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Watch it with that logic stuff. We are a capitalistic society except when it comes to sports team punishment. :)
 
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My son has complained when his wrestling coach makes everybody run wind sprints because one person did something stupid and how he is ticked off at the one being stupid.

I don't have a problem with group punishment for one or two people misbehaving. I just think more was made of this than needed to be. If the coach had said everyone has to do such and such because of the cyberbullying and that they will be off the team if they don't, it would not have gotten near the publicity.
 
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Roll Tide Roll 17 said:
My son who is 9 years old fall baseball team was told to run laps because the 3rd baseman missed a pop fly. I pulled my son off the field and told the coach he would not run. I was a assist coach on this team and still am. My point was 9 years old is to young to make run, it's just a game and last my son didn't miss it he will not run because of someone us. I'm sorry but that's dumb should your child go to jail cause his classmate did something wrong?
I understand team but this is 2013 get in the real world its me me and it will always be. The team doesn't go pro when one player is good only the player does......
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Really? Seriously?

Think about what you're teaching your kid in this situation. Regardless of the reason for the laps, the rest of the team is running while your kid stands to the side because Daddy rescued him. What do you think will happen the next time that coach tries to tell your kid to do something he doesn't want to do? What do you think the rest of the team thinks about your son? You are doing your child no favors.
 
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Special K said:
Really? Seriously?

Think about what you're teaching your kid in this situation. Regardless of the reason for the laps, the rest of the team is running while your kid stands to the side because Daddy rescued him. What do you think will happen the next time that coach tries to tell your kid to do something he doesn't want to do? What do you think the rest of the team thinks about your son? You are doing your child no favors.
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I found myself hoping that he stopped the laps for everyone, otherwise you are exactly correct.
 
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