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Va Tech Struggling this Spring

bamacpa70 said:
Let's turn our eyes to the fall and our first opponent:

2's beat the 1's outright in spring game:

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/virgi...tech-backups-pick-off-thomas-starters-in.html

Installation of new offense not going smoothly:

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/virgi...rginia-techs-offense-not-yet-up-to-speed.html
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VT has been trending down for years now, and it doesn't look like any sudden rejuvenation is in the works.

If we have some issues of our own, that game might be relatively close, but if we legitimately lose to Tech in the opener, we are in for a relatively long year. Lose that one and we're probably sitting at 7-5 or 8-4.

FWIW, though, I figure we handle them with relative ease.
 
I think their OC hire was questionable. I really hate to see Beamer's long run of success sputter to the finish but so many great coaches have had the exact same thing happen to them. Frankly, Beamer's inaction on improving his offense has probably held them back from really getting over the hump.
 
rgw said:
I think their OC hire was questionable. I really hate to see Beamer's long run of success sputter to the finish but so many great coaches have had the exact same thing happen to them. Frankly, Beamer's inaction on improving his offense has probably held them back from really getting over the hump.
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I see what you did there. :wink:
 
Logan Thomas was something like 12 of 18 (not bad) with 3 picks (trouble) and two pick-sixes (real trouble). The receiver on the second pick-six admitted later that he ran the wrong route.
Last year, Thomas would make a pretty throw into a tight spot, then, on the next play, one-hop the ball to an open receiver. Very inconsistent.
Unless Loeffler does some real magic with Thomas, the Hokies are in trouble.

The Hokies spring game format was 1's against 2's, 4 10-minute quarters. To make it a game, Beamer spotted the 2s 13 points. At the end of the 1st quarter, the score was 27-0.
 
Barring major injuries VaTech should be a fairly easy game. Michigan was a far better team last year than VT will be this year, and we made short work out of them. It is the perfect situation for us as it allows us to play a less talented team without murdering our SoS, get an opening day blow out(Lord willing), and work the kinks out before our biggest game of the season in TAMU.
 
BamaJama17 said:
I don't see VA Tech as much of a threat at this point.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I think you're right. :(

For a decade, Beamer stubbornly refused to admit that he made some bad hires, and now he's paying the price. And as I said in another thread, while I like what I've seen so far out of Loeffler & Grimes, it's going to take a few years of both coaching and recruiting to repair the damage. Whether or not they're up to the task and whether or not Beamer hangs on long enough to see the results remains to be seen. My guess is that we're about an 8-4 type team this year & next. We'll probably hang with you guys for the first half because the D looks pretty good, but I think you pull away for a relatively easy 3+ TD win. My way-too-early guess: 'bama leads 17-10 at halftime and wins 38-17.
 
Tidewater said:
.....Logan Thomas was something like 12 of 18 (not bad) with 3 picks (trouble) and two pick-sixes (real trouble). The receiver on the second pick-six admitted later that he ran the wrong route.

Unless Loeffler does some real magic with Thomas, the Hokies are in trouble.
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Kiehl Frazier says hello.
 
So let me try and understand this. The 2's whipped the 1's straight up? Does the Hokie coaching staff use a Magic 8-ball to assign their depth chart?

We have good depth at most positions, but I'm pretty sure that our first team would absolutely monkey stomp our second team.
 
it doesn't help that mike london at uva is starting to take some of the better virginia talent to charlottesville, but i predict he'll be gone from uva in 3 or 4 years because it's virtually impossible to win more than 7 games a year on a consistent basis there.
 
freefall said:
As much as I hate to admit it, I think you're right. :(

For a decade, Beamer stubbornly refused to admit that he made some bad hires, and now he's paying the price. And as I said in another thread, while I like what I've seen so far out of Loeffler & Grimes, it's going to take a few years of both coaching and recruiting to repair the damage. Whether or not they're up to the task and whether or not Beamer hangs on long enough to see the results remains to be seen. My guess is that we're about an 8-4 type team this year & next. We'll probably hang with you guys for the first half because the D looks pretty good, but I think you pull away for a relatively easy 3+ TD win. My way-too-early guess: 'bama leads 17-10 at halftime and wins 38-17.
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Maybe so...but that still dosen't mean Alabama can show up and expect VA Tech to roll over....kinda like Michigan and Appy State.
 
BamaJama17 said:
Maybe so...but that still dosen't mean Alabama can show up and expect VA Tech to roll over....kinda like Michigan and Appy State.
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True. And as we saw back in '09, a special teams play here or critical penalty call there and suddenly the game is a whole closer than maybe it should be. Any given Saturday and all that...
 
freefall said:
As much as I hate to admit it, I think you're right. :(

For a decade, Beamer stubbornly refused to admit that he made some bad hires, and now he's paying the price. And as I said in another thread, while I like what I've seen so far out of Loeffler & Grimes, it's going to take a few years of both coaching and recruiting to repair the damage. Whether or not they're up to the task and whether or not Beamer hangs on long enough to see the results remains to be seen. My guess is that we're about an 8-4 type team this year & next. We'll probably hang with you guys for the first half because the D looks pretty good, but I think you pull away for a relatively easy 3+ TD win. My way-too-early guess: 'bama leads 17-10
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The emphasis is on the offense way too much. I remember Bama having some excellent years with a very good defense and an offense that didn't give the game away.
 
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capnfrog said:
The emphasis is on the offense way too much. I remember Bama having some excellent years with a very good defense and an offense that didn't give the game away.
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The problem is that far too often, VT's offense can't even do the basics. Our redzone offense has been terrible, our ability to run out the clock nonexistent, and even when blessed with great field position courtesy of the defense, we tend to get 3 instead of 7, or 0 instead of 3. There's a limit to what the defense can do, especially if they're on the field for 35+ minutes. Over the years, the previous coaches would take bits & pieces from other offensive schemes (a little spread here, some pistol there) but they never managed to put together anything you would call a coherent system. It was almost like "oh look what {Oregon, Nevada, etc} did, we should try that!" became the basis for the playbook. Unless you followed VT closely during the Stinespring era it's hard to understand just how bad we were on offense. In 2005 & 2006 we had the #1 defense in the country and yet weren't able to capitalize on it because the offense was as bad as the defense was good (ranked over #100 both years). And so I think the focus is rightly on the offense at this point in time.
 
freefall said:
The problem is that far too often, VT's offense can't even do the basics. Our redzone offense has been terrible, our ability to run out the clock nonexistent, and even when blessed with great field position courtesy of the defense, we tend to get 3 instead of 7, or 0 instead of 3. There's a limit to what the defense can do, especially if they're on the field for 35+ minutes. Over the years, the previous coaches would take bits & pieces from other offensive schemes (a little spread here, some pistol there) but they never managed to put together anything you would call a coherent system. It was almost like "oh look what {Oregon, Nevada, etc} did, we should try that!" became the basis for the playbook. Unless you followed VT closely during the Stinespring era it's hard to understand just how bad we were on offense. In 2005 & 2006 we had the #1 defense in the country and yet weren't able to capitalize on it because the offense was as bad as the defense was good (ranked over #100 both years). And so I think the focus is rightly on the offense at this point in time.
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It has been a mystery to me why Coach Beamer's loyalty to Stiney so far exceeded his loyalty to his his alma mater, his employer and his current players.
My colleagues used to say, "Yeah, but Stiney is a great recruiter."
E. J. Manuel is from Virginia. He plays in Tallahassee.
Phillip Sims is from Virginia. He played in Tuscaloosa and now is in Charlottesville. (Admittedly, Simms has not panned out, but we didn't know that in 2010.)

There are other Virginians that have escaped the Hokies, but you get the point. I actually think a guy like Manuel was scared off by how inept Stiney's offense was. Who the heck wants to play under that offense? Stiney, allegedly the great recruiter, was actually a serious recruiting liability.
 
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