Game Thread: Virginia Tech vs Tennessee

[Nolan]

Just got home from Atlanta. I haven't read through this thread...I can only assume most of it is not good for a Vol fan

Tonights game was rather pitiful as we simply got out coached, IMO. Looking back during the 3.5 hour drive home, we never really recovered after the FG TEch scored at the end of the st half. The Denarius Moore drop also turned out to be critical. Moore has been our best WR this year, so I cannot bash him for that drop. He has made some big time catches.

The play that ran through me and still is was after the Moore drop we had 3rd and 24, down 13, with 10 minutes to go...we run a draw play, a freaking draw play. Not sure what the deal there was. I honestly felt as if Kiffin gave up at that point and didn't try and win. My and my buddy were both trying to figure out why you run a draw when you need 24 yards and 2 TDs.

The game was rather embarrassing. Kind of a bummer night with how things turned out.

Oh well, looking forward to national signing day now to see how we do.

Go Vols!

A good post by a level headed fan whom I appreciate and respect, better luck next year. I always pull for SEC vs. anyone...in bowl season. Roll Tide.

 

[rgw]

To be fair VolFan1, I don't think there are many plays for 3rd and a mile. Especially when you consider the pass rush that VT has.

 

[twofbyc]

Ain't tootin my horn...I called this a long time ago because a) VT is/was better than the orange puke and b) the smoke is getting thicker on sloppy top. There is trouble in them thar hills...and I couldn't be happier. As I said before, couldn't happen to a more deserving group.
Barn wins and I win points...but if they lose, I will gladly give up the points. It ain't all about money...

 

[hollisx4]

Just got home from Atlanta. I haven't read through this thread...I can only assume most of it is not good for a Vol fan

Tonights game was rather pitiful as we simply got out coached, IMO. Looking back during the 3.5 hour drive home, we never really recovered after the FG TEch scored at the end of the st half. The Denarius Moore drop also turned out to be critical. Moore has been our best WR this year, so I cannot bash him for that drop. He has made some big time catches.

The play that ran through me and still is was after the Moore drop we had 3rd and 24, down 13, with 10 minutes to go...we run a draw play, a freaking draw play. Not sure what the deal there was. I honestly felt as if Kiffin gave up at that point and didn't try and win. My and my buddy were both trying to figure out why you run a draw when you need 24 yards and 2 TDs.

The game was rather embarrassing. Kind of a bummer night with how things turned out.

Oh well, looking forward to national signing day now to see how we do.

Go Vols!

Volfan you seem like a nice guy and like Irishman said, I always pull for the SEC, yes even the Barn during Bowl season. When the game first started I thought that it wasn't going to be the Vols night and it turned out that way. All teams have those nights.

Here's to National Signing Day!

 

[Tidewater]

The play that ran through me and still is was after the Moore drop we had 3rd and 24, down 13, with 10 minutes to go...we run a draw play, a freaking draw play. Not sure what the deal there was. I honestly felt as if Kiffin gave up at that point and didn't try and win. My and my buddy were both trying to figure out why you run a draw when you need 24 yards and 2 TDs.

That was right out of the Mal Moore Offensive Coordinator book.
Third and long? Run a draw. It is so hopelessly irrational, the defence won't be expecting it.
The problem was that Mal Moore ran the draw on third and long so frequently that teams would key on the fullback and it would result in a tackle for loss. I found this mind boggling.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Skimming the UT boards today is quite humorous - they're claiming they have ZERO talent and Kiffin basically turned water into wine to field a team this year. Funny, the recruiting rankings for the last five years speak differently:

year		UT	VT

2005		4	14
2006		23	32
2007		3	29
2008		35	18
2009		10	23

avg		15	23

Some are even saying it will take three more recruiting classes to 'catch up'. Unreal.

 

[Bamaball2001]

Skimming the UT boards today is quite humorous - they're claiming they have ZERO talent and Kiffin basically turned water into wine to field a team this year. Funny, the recruiting rankings for the last five years speak differently:

year        UT    VT

2005        4    14
2006        23    32
2007        3    29
2008        35    18
2009        10    23

avg        15    23

Some are even saying it will take three more recruiting classes to 'catch up'. Unreal.

The game turned out just as I expected. If they think they are low on talent now, just can't wait until next year after they lose a bunch of seniors + Berry.

Three more years to rebuild? That would be Kiffin's seniors year....we shall see. :wink:

 

[VolFan1]

Skimming the UT boards today is quite humorous - they're claiming they have ZERO talent and Kiffin basically turned water into wine to field a team this year. Funny, the recruiting rankings for the last five years speak differently:

year        UT    VT

2005        4    14
2006        23    32
2007        3    29
2008        35    18
2009        10    23

avg        15    23

Some are even saying it will take three more recruiting classes to 'catch up'. Unreal.

I think the play Kiffin, Reaves, Chaney, or whoever did it got out of Crompton was a really good coaching job. I know he was highly ranked out of high school. His play last year and the first few games this year was really bad. I also think the o-line played pretty well most of the year as Hardesty had a good year running the ball.

I have seen the same argument over and over. That list has UT at 23, 35, and 10 in three of the years. Where does that put UT in the SEC? My guess would be that the 23 and 35 ranking would be between 10th and 12th in the SEC. The 10 ranking is somewhere around 5th or 6th in the conference. I am just guessing on these.

I think the biggest problem this year has been injuries. On the OL there was 4 seniors, 2 of those were walk ons originally (Sullins brothers) and another came in as a TE (Aaron Douglas) and was moved to OL in the spring. Aaron Douglas is the only one that will be returning. The LB corp has been depleted over the year.

I don't think the talent gap is the huge difference many try to make it out to be. I felt as if UT had a chance to win every game this year, outside of Florida. Yes, I thought we had a chance against Bama heading in. The defense was playing well and at that point the Bama offense had not been great. It was the defensive battle that I thought it might be...I also had that thought that you guys had a shot of blowing us out, which thankfully didn't happen.

If you watch the UT boards, next season may be a total melt down. We will be starting a new QB, new RB, and several new OL. We will be good at WR, if the QB can get the ball to them. I don't think we are losing any senior play makers at WR. The defensive backfield had a shot at being good, if Rogan comes back. If not, we will be replacing Rogan and Berry. I am not sure where we stand on DL and LB. There are a few DL recruits coming in, but I am not totally sure where we stand at these positions. Wes Brown and Dan Williams are gone and I don't know what is behind them. At LB, I know we lose Rico McCoy. I am not sure where we stand after that.

 

[Bamaball2001]

The Denarius Moore drop also turned out to be critical. Moore has been our best WR this year, so I cannot bash him for that drop. He has made some big time catches.

I agree he has done a good job...crap happens!

The play that ran through me and still is was after the Moore drop we had 3rd and 24, down 13, with 10 minutes to go...we run a draw play, a freaking draw play. Not sure what the deal there was. I honestly felt as if Kiffin gave up at that point and didn't try and win. My and my buddy were both trying to figure out why you run a draw when you need 24 yards and 2 TDs.
Go Vols!

I also agree, it looked to me like Kiffin threw in the towel. I chalk that up to immaturity but it sure doesn't help his "spoiled brat" reputation.

Another small small thing: when the game was over he gave CFB a very cursory hand shake and barely said a word to him; CFB deserved better than that, his team played a tough hard nosed game. They beat UT on all levels.

Kiffen needs to learn to show coaches some respect, even if they are the opponents and he gets beat. He better grow up fast; VTech is a very good team but it ain't the SEC.

 

[crains]

Was that the Tampa 2 defense or the Tampa TU TU defense?:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

 

[Vinny]

Couldn't watch the game, my mother doesn't have espn and we stayed over her house last night. Good to see UTCheat went down in Atlanta!
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[VolFan1]

Another small small thing: when the game was over he gave CFB a very cursory hand shake and barely said a word to him; CFB deserved better than that, his team played a tough hard nosed game. They beat UT on all levels.

Kiffen needs to learn to show coaches some respect, even if they are the opponents and he gets beat. He better grow up fast; VTech is a very good team but it ain't the SEC.

I didn't see the handshake. From the sound of it, it was Pete Carroll-esque after a loss. I think you should win and lose with respect, when you get beat you get beat. I know calling it a Carroll like handshake is not a legit defense.

I totally agree that we got beat on all levels last night.

 

[bigmammal]

I agree he has done a good job...crap happens!



I also agree, it looked to me like Kiffin threw in the towel. I chalk that up to immaturity but it sure doesn't help his "spoiled brat" reputation.

Another small small thing: when the game was over he gave CFB a very cursory hand shake and barely said a word to him; CFB deserved better than that, his team played a tough hard nosed game. They beat UT on all levels.

Kiffen needs to learn to show coaches some respect, even if they are the opponents and he gets beat. He better grow up fast; VTech is a very good team but it ain't the SEC.

Saw that too. For me, it was just further confirmation of Kiffin being completely unable to exhibit class or good sportsmanship. :mad2:

 

[crimsonaudio]

That list has UT at 23, 35, and 10 in three of the years. Where does that put UT in the SEC? My guess would be that the 23 and 35 ranking would be between 10th and 12th in the SEC. The 10 ranking is somewhere around 5th or 6th in the conference. I am just guessing on these.

But you didn't get demolished by an SEC team last night, but rather by a team that has only beat you in recruiting one time in the last five years.

If you watch the UT boards, next season may be a total melt down. We will be starting a new QB, new RB, and several new OL. We will be good at WR, if the QB can get the ball to them. I don't think we are losing any senior play makers at WR. The defensive backfield had a shot at being good, if Rogan comes back. If not, we will be replacing Rogan and Berry. I am not sure where we stand on DL and LB. There are a few DL recruits coming in, but I am not totally sure where we stand at these positions. Wes Brown and Dan Williams are gone and I don't know what is behind them. At LB, I know we lose Rico McCoy. I am not sure where we stand after that.

You lose the following:
starting QB
starting RB
4 of 5 starting OL
starting TE
both starting DTs
all three starting LBs
Eric Berry

Yah, next year will be fun to watch!

 

[bigmammal]

I didn't see the handshake. From the sound of it, it was Pete Carroll-esque after a loss. I think you should win and lose with respect, when you get beat you get beat. I know calling it a Carroll like handshake is not a legit defense.

I totally agree that we got beat on all levels last night.

There were so few Vol fans left in the stadium at the end of the game I'd be surprised if any saw it.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I didn't see the handshake. From the sound of it, it was Pete Carroll-esque after a loss. I think you should win and lose with respect, when you get beat you get beat. I know calling it a Carroll like handshake is not a legit defense.

He literally blew past Beamer without slowing down.

The UT fans are saying it's because VT called blitzes at the end of the game, ignoring the fact that UT had it's starters in and even called timeouts to try to score.

Kiffin's awesome for UT!

 

[trenda]

You lose the following:
starting QB
starting RB
4 of 5 starting OL
starting TE
both starting DTs
all three starting LBs
Eric Berry

Yah, next year will be fun to watch!

Just wait until the next batch of Kiffin's recruits gets paroled! Then we'll see this 'master plan' really start to unfold. :biggrin2:

 

[VolFan1]

But you didn't get demolished by an SEC team last night, but rather by a team that has only beat you in recruiting one time in the last five years.


You lose the following:
starting QB
starting RB
4 of 5 starting OL
starting TE
both starting DTs
all three starting LBs
Eric Berry

Yah, next year will be fun to watch!

McCoy is the only LB on the entire roster listed as a senior. When you say starting TE I think you are referring to Cottam. Stocker has been the go to guy at TE and outside of him going pro now he will be back.

Losing Wes Brown and Dan Williams at DT will hurt.

 

[crimsonaudio]

McCoy is the only LB on the entire roster listed as a senior. When you say starting TE I think you are referring to Cottam. Stocker has been the go to guy at TE and outside of him going pro now he will be back.

Losing Wes Brown and Dan Williams at DT will hurt.

Hrmm, I looked at this earlier this year, must've made a mistake regarding the LB's. Sorry about that.

Still gonna be fun to watch the implosion next year.

 

[VolFan1]

Hrmm, I looked at this earlier this year, must've made a mistake regarding the LB's. Sorry about that.

Still gonna be fun to watch the implosion next year.

The schedule next year will be pretty tough...but all in the SEC are.

We play Oregon early and in the SEC we lose Auburn and pick up LSU next year and as always play Bama and Florida. If it matters, we get Oregon, Bama, and Florida at home and then travel to LSU.

The other three non-conference are UT-Martin, UAB, and Memphis.