Poll: Who wins the Georgia-Oklahoma game?

Who do you think wins the Georgia-Oklahoma game?

  • Georgia

    Votes: 61 56.0%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 48 44.0%

  • Total voters
    109
  • Poll closed .

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I’ve seen a good bit of both these teams this year, and, based on the eye-test, I’d take OU by AT LEAST 2 scores. As others here have said, no way UGA offense keeps pace with OU offense. No way. OU’s defense has come a long way since the beginning of the season.


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OU defense gave up 52 points, 661 yards total offense, 32 1st downs, 7-16 3rd downs, 3-4 4th downs, 213 (avg 6.3) yards rushing in game 9. It seems they still have a ways to go.
And yet this last week they held #13 TCU to 17 points, 421 yards, 19 1st downs, 4-13 3rd downs, 155 (avg 4.8) yards rushing> Not great SEC defense level, but good enough to hold TCU in check. UGA's offense is statistically similar in PPG, and plays 'unbalanced football - they're 11th in the country in rushing (263 ypg) but 110th in the country in passing (171 ypg). If OU decided to take the running game away (easier said than done) and make Fromm beat them through the air, I don't know that UGA can score enough to keep up with OK.
 

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The stroppy older lady with the pet Maltese in the Fox thread claimed tOSU was better on both sides of the ball than Bama so maybe we're playing down the quality of the opposition the Sooners have faced too much. ;)

OU to win a close one and Bama to dismiss her opinion in the big one.

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And yet this last week they held #13 TCU to 17 points, 421 yards, 19 1st downs, 4-13 3rd downs, 155 (avg 4.8) yards rushing> Not great SEC defense level, but good enough to hold TCU in check. UGA's offense is statistically similar in PPG, and plays 'unbalanced football - they're 11th in the country in rushing (263 ypg) but 110th in the country in passing (171 ypg). If OU decided to take the running game away (easier said than done) and make Fromm beat them through the air, I don't know that UGA can score enough to keep up with OK.
I hate to break it to you but that's not a good comparison. Here are some statistical comparisons of the two team's offenses:

Total Offense:
UGA - 37th, 433.6 ypg, 6.75 ypp (13th)
TCU - 52nd, 413.9 ypg, 6.01 ypp (44th)

Scoring Offense:
UGA - 23rd, 34.9 ppg
TCU - 34th, 33.2 ppg

Rushing Offense:
UGA - 11th, 263.54 ypg, 5.80 ypr (10th)
TCU - 52nd, 176.23 ypg, 4.52 ypr (55th)

Passing Offense:
UGA - 110th, 170.1 ypg, 9.1 ypa (8th)
TCU - 58th, 237.7 ypg, 7.9 ypa (37th)

Passing Efficiency:
UGA - 9th, 160.25
TCU - 21st, 150.92

Offensive FEI (Opponent adjusted overall efficiency)
UGA - 4th, 3.55
TCU - 41st, 2.50

TCU runs the ball fairly well for a Big 12 team but they are very much a pass-first team and aren't a power rushing team. And, while Georgia may not pass nearly as often as TCU, the Bulldogs are actually much more efficient than the Horned Frogs. In the OFEI ratings, which is probably the best statistical comparison that exists, the two offenses aren't really close, at all. In fact, the only two offenses similar to Georgia's in OFEI that Oklahoma has faced are Oklahoma State, at 2nd, and Ohio State, at 3rd. Okie Lite lit them up big time and the Buckeyes, well, they're quite a bit Jekyll and Hyde all on their own so it's hard to say how much of that game was OU's Defense playing well versus OSU's Offense playing poorly.

For reference, here are all of the SEC and Big 12 teams in the Top 50 of OFEI:
1. Oklahoma
2. Oklahoma State
4. Georgia
6. Alabama
15. Barn
20. Missouri
26. LSU
30. West Virginia
34. Iowa State
36. Mississippi State
38. Texas Tech
41. TCU
42. Arkansas
46. Ole Miss
48. Vanderbilt

Oklahoma simply hasn't faced an offense as consistently good overall and at running the ball as the one they'll see in Pasadena.

The only offenses they faced with any real semblance of a power running game were Ohio State and Kansas State. Kansas State racked up 268 yards rushing at 6.4 yards per rush. Ohio State, as poorly as they played on Offense, managed to rush for 167 yards at 4.9 yards per rush. However, that's a bit misleading as most of their runs were by J.T. Barrett and a large number of those were scrambles on designed passing plays plus three sacks. The Buckeyes' running backs rushed only 16 times for 101 yards - an average of 6.3 yards per rush. In hindsight, Ohio State's game-plan probably hurt them more than anything else against Oklahoma.

As for Oklahoma's rushing defense, look at it in comparison to Big 12 Offenses. The Big 12, as a whole, averaged 155.25 yards per game with an average 4.24 yards per rush. In Big 12 play, Oklahoma averaged giving up 139.70 yards per game with an average 4.00 yards per rush - putting them right smack dab at "Average" for a Big 12 Defense.

Oklahoma will have to be much, much better than average to really slow down Georgia's Offense.
 

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I hate to break it to you but that's not a good comparison.
I wasn't comparing the two offenses, I was merely suggesting that I believe they have improved. They shut down a solid TCU team. Do I believe TCU is the same caliber as UGA? Not even close. But my point stands - if OU can slow down the UGA run game and force them to win through the air, i don't think UGA can score often enough to win the game, as I do believe OU will score points.
 

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I wasn't comparing the two offenses, I was merely suggesting that I believe they have improved. They shut down a solid TCU team. Do I believe TCU is the same caliber as UGA? Not even close. But my point stands - if OU can slow down the UGA run game and force them to win through the air, i don't think UGA can score often enough to win the game, as I do believe OU will score points.
This game is all about GA running the ball and shortening the game. If GA can do that, they might kill OU. If they cannot, they might get killed by OU.

One other point - GA is very solid in special teams while OU is one of the worst in the country. So a close game really favors GA.
 

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This game is all about GA running the ball and shortening the game. If GA can do that, they might kill OU. If they cannot, they might get killed by OU.

One other point - GA is very solid in special teams while OU is one of the worst in the country. So a close game really favors GA.

I agree. Also, if Mel Tucker gets the Tennessee job, I wonder if he will stay to coach the GA/Oklahoma game? Should be interesting.
 

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I agree. Also, if Mel Tucker gets the Tennessee job, I wonder if he will stay to coach the GA/Oklahoma game? Should be interesting.
He will stay - folks need to stop asking this question about DCs. They will stay. The only time one has left before a championship - Kiffin. That didn't work out for Alabama. No team is ever going to do that again.
 

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UGA's run game should prevail. Chubb and Swift should have comparable yardage of 60-70 each with Michel contributing another 40-50. If they commit to the run against that defense they'll limit BM's plays with sustained drives. That's the only way I see the Dawgs pulling this one out in a 38-27 kinda game.
 

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I wasn't comparing the two offenses, I was merely suggesting that I believe they have improved. They shut down a solid TCU team. Do I believe TCU is the same caliber as UGA? Not even close. But my point stands - if OU can slow down the UGA run game and force them to win through the air, i don't think UGA can score often enough to win the game, as I do believe OU will score points.
And my point was that, even if they have improved, their performance against TCU's Offense has little bearing as to how successful they can be against Georgia's Offense, as the two are vastly different in style and overall quality.
 

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And my point was that, even if they have improved, their performance against TCU's Offense has little bearing as to how successful they can be against Georgia's Offense, as the two are vastly different in style and overall quality.
And I'd argue that comparing their defensive performance from a month ago against a rival (Okie Lite, a considerably more potent scoring offense and the #1 passing offense in the country) to UGA isn't a very good comparison either...
 

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