Saban signs multi-year extension w/Bama, shorthorns on suicide watch...

CrimsonPride25

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I don't understand why a "new" contract is needed. He just signed an extension earlier this year that last through 2020? Correct?

I honestly believe that this is much more about Jimmy Sexton than Coach Saban.


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The Austin newspaper guy was on Finebaum earlier. He brought up something I had always thought but had not brought it up here. Saban will most likely see the LHN as a liability and not an asset. He has several appearances that he would be contractually obligated to do - INCLUDING a 15 minute segment during practice every day where he speaks to the LHN cameras.

The guy asked Paul - does that sound like Saban to you? Finebaum laughed and said "Uh - No". They guy said "me either". Add him to the list of journalists who are saying "It could happen - but he doesn't think it will"
This LHN stuff does nothing to help win games.

I thought that rumor floating around about CNS getting a share of the LHN was hilarious. It would have been more believable if it said "CNS is getting X dollars, plus a set of steak knives". 1% of nothing is still nothing.
 

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Does anyone remember how long it took for Saban to sign his initial contract with us from the day he was announced? I'm thinking it took a while, but cannot remember with certainty.

I agree with what was stated above, the current contract offer is probably being reviewed by Sexton and legal team(s) before any signature is put to paper. Saban doesn't need to hurry up and sign; he's in no danger of being fired.
 

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This falls under the TIFWIW category. Chris Stewart played a clip of Finebaum on Dan Patrick's show and what he said makes sense. Finebaum said" Saban likes it Alabama and he thought he would likely stay here. He stated there are people around Saban who are pushing him to go to Texas namely Sexton who would benefit from Saban making a higher salary at UTw plus if Kirby were to be the new HC here, he'd get a raise from Kirby's new salary. Sexton is a major snake IMO.

I also wonder if Battle has had any dealings with Sexton in the past.
 

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I don't understand why a "new" contract is needed. He just signed an extension earlier this year that last through 2020? Correct?

I honestly believe that this is much more about Jimmy Sexton than Coach Saban.
It's not needed, but it would have put the Saban to Texas rumors to rest. It would have been yet another commitment to Alabama by Nick Saban, and it would have put him further out of reach. Having said that, the contract in and of itself doesn't mean much, because he can still leave or stay with or without it.

Earle, I would be curious if you've heard anything today that would contradict your somewhat optimistic outlook yesterday?
The Phil Savage interview seemed to make him nervous, but Phil stated he hasn't talked to Saban this week.
 

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This LHN stuff does nothing to help win games.

I thought that rumor floating around about CNS getting a share of the LHN was hilarious. It would have been more believable if it said "CNS is getting X dollars, plus a set of steak knives". 1% of nothing is still nothing.
True...but it won't be long til it's a lot more than nothing with CNS as HC. It does bring up a whole other set of NCAA questions, ESPN's credibility, etc.....
 

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I listened to that Phil Savage interview. He sounds like someone who knows that a possibility realistically exists that ends with CNS changing his state of residence. Well, DUH. We all know that, right? None of us is in such denial that we don't understand that now would be the time for CNS to make his departure if he's going to do so.

What NO ONE knows for certain is just how CNS arranges his priorities. What WE may think of as a logical order of priorities, he may not. Why are we spending so much emotional energy fretting over something that MIGHT, but also MIGHT NOT occur? Worse yet, why are there actual Tide fans who seems so shocked that this could occur? This is the man's JOB, plain and simple. He doesn't love the university the way many of us do. How could he? He doesn't have the level of sentimentality we do about it to cloud his reasoning. He is a professional and he is weighing his options like all professionals do when they consider how they wish to evolve (or not evolve as the case may be). It's actually a smart thing to do - take time to think over one's options, rather than make a too-quick decision. Heck, it took me nearly two years to come to a decision about my career (leaving private practice and going into an employed position). Why shouldn't it at least take him a matter of weeks or even months?
I think the only reason that it perturbed me a bit is that I happen to know that Phil knows far more than he wants to project that he knows. So, I was sitting here listening to it and wondering why he was saying what he was saying...
 

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I've had a really busy day and no computer time. Has something occured since early this morning that has caused the nervous feeling in some posts I am reading? I've looked at several websites and don't see anything new. Thanks and RTR
No nothing new. Consensus is still that he stays, and most public assertions otherwise have been put down by more credible sources of info. Negativity is high right now, and propel are venting on these threads. There's no time line in this, no news other than people with "sources" talking bout how good their sources are. Right now Saban is recruiting pretty hard for bama, I might add and the staff is as well. It's still wait and see but there's really no reason to worry since worrying is useless here.
 

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This LHN stuff does nothing to help win games.

I thought that rumor floating around about CNS getting a share of the LHN was hilarious. It would have been more believable if it said "CNS is getting X dollars, plus a set of steak knives". 1% of nothing is still nothing.
Yeah, everything I've read indicates the LHN is still a long way from being a money-making operation. A big hire might do a lot to get them in the black, though.
 

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I think the only reason that it perturbed me a bit is that I happen to know that Phil knows far more than he wants to project that he knows. So, I was sitting here listening to it and wondering why he was saying what he was saying...
I agree. Phil's tone and word choice just seemed to be his way of giving a hint. He gave more info than I expected.
 

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I did not expect Battle to say anything. For that matter, nobody from the university has to say anything. He's our coach and nothing needs to be said if he doesn't leave.

I was watching one of the ESPN shows where they were throwing out names and one of the ones thrown out was Les Miles. Now, that would be funny.
 

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I agree. Phil's tone and word choice just seemed to be his way of giving a hint. He gave more info than I expected.
Maybe, but it also took pains to say that he has not spoken to Saban in some time and had no direct knowledge about the situation.
 

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He stated there are people around Saban who are pushing him to go to Texas namely Sexton who would benefit from Saban making a higher salary at UTw plus if Kirby were to be the new HC here, he'd get a raise from Kirby's new salary. Sexton is a major snake IMO.
If Saban leaves, Kirby would probably have to change agents to get the Alabama job. I don't see rewarding Sexton if he does orchestrate Saban's departure, and mind you, if that is the intention, he's been meddling the whole way. For instance, Gus signs an extension when we thought Saban would. That's really, really interesting if you look at the possibility that he tells Gus he's not getting the Texas job, but that Auburn doesn't know it and gets a big raise for Gus. At the same time, that drives up Nick's value, once again when Alabama seemed to think they had a done deal. Why would Alabama want to deal with him again if they are looking to hire a new coach?

To reiterate, I still think Saban stays, but there's no doubt at this point that that isn't 100%. What ever nonsense people might be putting in his head, he realize that leaving Alabama for Texas would be taking a sledgehammer to a lot of his accomplishments, and that if he doesn't like clutter, Texas is the last place he'd want to be.
 

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I was watching one of the ESPN shows where they were throwing out names and one of the ones thrown out was Les Miles. Now, that would be funny.
Not the first time I've heard his name mentioned this year as a target for big name schools. In a surreal sort of way, the SEC's weird uncle is a bit of a hot commodity himself.
 

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I was watching one of the ESPN shows where they were throwing out names and one of the ones thrown out was Les Miles. Now, that would be funny.
He'd probably help the LHN ratings. Those 15 minute post practice interviews would be must-see-TV. I might subscribe just to watch those.
 

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Maybe, but it also took pains to say that he has not spoken to Saban in some time and had no direct knowledge about the situation.
I noticed that too. It seemed to me that he was leaving the door open for the POSSIBILITY, and maybe he knows that Saban has been batting it around, but he did say he had not talked to him.
 

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Not the first time I've heard his name mentioned this year as a target for big name schools. In a surreal sort of way, the SEC's weird uncle is a bit of a hot commodity himself.
He is a character, but he can coach. There aren't many better than him out there. If not for Saban's return to the NCAA, Meyer and Miles would look like gods right now.
 

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Maybe, but it also took pains to say that he has not spoken to Saban in some time and had no direct knowledge about the situation.
I know. And I have very good reason to doubt the accuracy of that statement and that's the reason that it bothered me...
 

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