Saban signs multi-year extension w/Bama, shorthorns on suicide watch...

[kat4bama]

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This is all Jimmy Sexton. CNS will get a big raise (fine with me) and another one of his clients will get the Texas Job and rest will get raises as well. Sexton makes out like a bandit.

 

[B1GTide]

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My point has been consistent throughout and If you can't see that I can't help you. A man's word is supposed to mean something and principles don't have a price tag and are not negotiable...at least that's what I was raised to believe. You may find that worthy of ridicule and that's your right. I will say no more because there is a no sparring rule here.

Understand that there is no expectation that coaches stay the length of contracts anymore. This is now a part of the contract understanding for almost all jobs at this level, so it really isn't what it might appear to be.

 

[Pugsley]

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LOL! I hope you don't have multiple personalities. From your avatar, I'd guess you're really an alumnus. If you're female, then you're an alumna. If there's more than one of you, then, male, you're alumni. If plural female, then alumnae. I actually had to study Latin. In a public HS; in Decatur, AL...

I have to remember to proof read. Hopefully my wife will not read this... She is an English major (from Alabama).

And to make myself look even worse, I took 2 years of Latin at Central. But that was only because if you took Latin II the teacher, Mrs. Elizabeth McNair would take students to Italy for 2 weeks. We had to pay for the trip, but she went every year. I saw things that to this day amaze me. She was my favorite teacher. Ever.

 

[twofbyc]

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I had to take three years of Latin in a Catholic school. From a nun. A really nasty nun.

Brothers of the Sacred Heart....

 

[TIDE-HSV]

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They taught "pig" Latin.

Well, Mrs. Marshall wasn't pretty, but she was from PA, as a number of teachers were, and she knew her Latin and French...

 

[twofbyc]

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This is all Jimmy Sexton. CNS will get a big raise (fine with me) and another one of his clients will get the Texas Job and rest will get raises as well. Sexton makes out like a bandit.

Tubby?

 

[bamacon]

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Krazy, correct me if I'm wrong, but the answer may be easier to find than we think. Mrs. Saban said it in her interview: Her husband is a builder, not a custodian of what he's built. Maybe he's finding that he's uncomfortable with the pressure that goes with being the top dog -- the expectation that you win all the time.

As for those who say he's too old to start over. He'd find at least as many advantages at Texas as he had here. Sure he's older now, but it took him less than two years to have us on the cusp of a national championship. He's got time to resurrect Texas.

We can match Texas money. But we don't offer him the challenge of rebuilding the brand. We ARE The Brand.

But he's done that already twice! It would only mean that he just likes building or he's afraid or truly dislikes the challenge of maintaining.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

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This is all Jimmy Sexton. CNS will get a big raise (fine with me) and another one of his clients will get the Texas Job and rest will get raises as well. Sexton makes out like a bandit.

Actually, my information is that it is not Sexton. It all seems to be coming from the UT side...

 

[Crimson1967]

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Here's the cold reality. If the football program doesn't make money or would exist at schools like Alabama then there would be A LOT of educational things that would go away or simply would never have existed to begin with.

If I'm a college president dealing with Nick Saban I give him what he wants because I know the revenue he will garner will three to four times what he's getting paid.

Yes, we could be Temple.

In a stunning move Friday, Temple University eliminated seven of its 24 intercollegiate sports programs - nearly a third - to boost funding for the remaining sports and become more competitive in the athletic conference it entered this summer.
School officials also cited costs, woeful facilities, and federal regulations requiring female and male athletes to be treated equally as reasons for the elimination of five male sports and two female sports. Collectively, the cuts will save more than $3 million in Temple's $44 million athletic budget, officials said. The cuts will take effect in June 2014, the end of the academic year.


Baseball; softball; men's and women's crew; men's gymnastics; and outdoor and indoor track and field were eliminated. About 150 student athletes (non-seniors) and nine full-time coaching positions will be affected by Friday's unanimous decision by Temple's board of trustees. A total of 208 roster spots are affected.

http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-...ity-the-inquirer-american-athletic-conference

I'm sure no one is shocked five men's sports were dropped but only two for women.

 

[RollTide2U]

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Understand that there is no expectation that coaches stay the length of contracts anymore. This is now a part of the contract understanding for almost all jobs at this level, so it really isn't what it might appear to be.

It is an ugly process, no doubt... and distasteful to most of us regular folks. But that's how big business works, and college football is big business.

 

[TideMan09]

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This is all Jimmy Sexton. CNS will get a big raise (fine with me) and another one of his clients will get the Texas Job and rest will get raises as well. Sexton makes out like a bandit.

He's the best in the business for a reason..Sexton is to the his business..That Coach Saban is to college football..He the absolute best at what he does..

 

[TIDE-HSV]

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Phil Savage is cohosting the SiriusXM college football show tonight. He repeated what he said on JOX. He said he denied any talk about Saban to another job until about the week after the Iron Bowl. He just has a different feeling.

He says he hasn't talked to Saban, but I don't buy that. He wouldn't make comments like he has if he hasn't talked to Saban.

He did say he feels this will come to a head this weekend or Monday when the recruiting dead period starts and coaches get off the recruiting trail.


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He's had an in depth discussion with Saban recently, but before Saban hit the recruiting trail. That's why his remarks are unpleasant to me. OTOH, he could be just trying to get himself off the hook...

 

[TideFan in AU]

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My point has been consistent throughout and If you can't see that I can't help you. A man's word is supposed to mean something and principles don't have a price tag and are not negotiable...at least that's what I was raised to believe. You may find that worthy of ridicule and that's your right. I will say no more because there is a no sparring rule here.

Was CNS wrong for taking the other raises? Should he still be honoring that 8 year, 32M contract he signed in 2007? How many raises have you ever turned down in your life?

 

[braggtd]

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What if Saban and Brown traded hair?

 

[Just Win]

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I respect my fellow TideFans' angst / nervousness / unease.

However, I just do not see Coach leaving.

Bingo. As i have stated 1000 times, there is only 1 thing we can't give Saban, and that's an opportunity to be the only coach with national titles at 3 schools - he'd have to leave if that's a goal of his. Otherwise, there's no logical reason. I mean, can you folks even fathom Saban putting up with what he'd have to from the 12 or so power brokers at Texas who demand to be updated by the coach on everything going on - weekly? There's no amount of money that would make Saban want to put up with that. And how about the turmoil going on as we speak in Austin - the power broker arrogant oil men are mixed on Coach Brown and on the University President. What a huge mess. If you think he'd put up with all that, you don't know Coach Saban very well.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

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I have to remember to proof read. Hopefully my wife will not read this... She is an English major (from Alabama).

And to make myself look even worse, I took 2 years of Latin at Central. But that was only because if you took Latin II the teacher, Mrs. Elizabeth McNair would take students to Italy for 2 weeks. We had to pay for the trip, but she went every year. I saw things that to this day amaze me. She was my favorite teacher. Ever.

If you want to study German, you can subtract about four cases and all the rest of the grammar is the same. Same cases, same ending rules. The verb conjugations are also the same - just plug in different words...

 

[KrAzY3]

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Mrs. Saban said it in her interview: Her husband is a builder, not a custodian of what he's built. Maybe he's finding that he's uncomfortable with the pressure that goes with being the top dog -- the expectation that you win all the time.

As for those who say he's too old to start over. He'd find at least as many advantages at Texas as he had here. Sure he's older now, but it took him less than two years to have us on the cusp of a national championship. He's got time to resurrect Texas.

We can match Texas money. But we don't offer him the challenge of rebuilding the brand. We ARE The Brand.

Clearly, Texas isn't going to get rid of their second best coach of all time, and pay an enormous sum of money, for someone that they don't expect to win all the time. At best, he's got a couple of years grace period, but you'd better believe he's not expected to lose to Alabama, LSU, FSU, etc... in a playoff in year three. The pressure would be every bit as high, if not higher, because at that point the notion that he's a mercenary would be considered fact. Texas just isn't the place to go to east the pressure.

Also, I don't see an equal number of advantages to coaching at Texas. I see some unique advantages, and some unique disadvantages, but there's no way around the fact that having to rebuild is a disadvantage and time works against that. If there is any setback, if he's not championship level in year two or three, he is in trouble because time is not on his side.

As to the final point, yes, it's a challenge to rebuild a brand, and that can be a rewarding challenge, but... it's also sadistic to want to destroy something you've built. He could go to the NFL without doing much harm to what he built at Alabama, he can't go to Texas without doing a lot of harm. It can't just be about building something new, it would have to be about damaging something he built, which is his greatest accomplishment...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

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What if Saban and Brown traded hair?

I think Saban would win that trade...

 

[RollTide2U]

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What if Saban and Brown traded hair?

Mack's hair works for Saban actually.

 

[bamacon]

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Mack's hair works for Saban actually.

And he has more left