Yeah but do they watch it with the intensity that Jesse Palmer watches it. [emoji2]
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Yeah but do they watch it with the intensity that Jesse Palmer watches it. [emoji2]
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Nobody is saying start Tua. That's been said multiple times.
But, despite your BOLD confidence, if CNS decided to start Tua against Clemson, some heads would explode!
I agree with the overall point that we don't know how Tua will play against top competition, but aren't we making way too much out of one play ? How many posts (not just you) are we going to have about one bad play ?
I saw a few. And yes heads would explode because we would know someone had taken the real Coach Saban and his body double was on the sideline :wink:.
Speaking only for myself - if Saban makes Tua the starter, I would assume that he saw something that required it much like when he fired Kiffin last year. I would worry that the change might result in a loss, but I would assume that not making a change really wasn't an option based on information not available to me.
Jalen is and has been our starter. CNS hasn't said anything about the team having a QB competition leading up to the first playoff game ...
So with all due respect, why would he or any other coach decide to start another QB at this stage of the season that has no starting experience when you already have an All-American caliber QB starting for your team? As much as we can debate about who has the better arm, and X, Y, Z ... the fact remains Jalen has already proven he has the skills as a QB to be successful in the playoffs.
I'm sorry but we were successful in last year's playoffs in spite of Jalen - not because of him. He managed the game well enough but that is not likely to work this time.
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No, it's not. Big difference in tailoring an offense vs. completing a simple throw.
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So just to make sure I understand. You are saying Jalen can't make a simple throw?
He's not.... but he is capable of managing the game If we're able to run the ball successfully and play great defense. It's unlikely for him to win this game with his arm.
I just don't see a high ceiling with him at QB with what he's shown against better defenses that force him to pass. Especially moving and throwing to his left.
Was this the same guy who won the offensive player of the year award for the SEC? Let's not start pretending that he sucks.
This thread is hilarious. The longer it gets, the further each side gets to defending their preferred QB.
Without comparing Jalen to Tua, let me say this. From reading this thread you'd think Tua was reckless with the ball and had a bunch of turnovers. But you know what? He has one. That's right, ONE interception this season. Same as Jalen (oops! I said I wouldn't make comparisons to Jalen). True, it was a pick 6. But, you know what he did after that? He came back and threw an absolute strike to Juedy for a TD. This was on a play where the pocket broke down and he scrambled out of trouble, kept his eyes downfield, and hit Juedy at full stride, right in the numbers. It was a beautiful play. So he wasn't too flustered by his previous INT.
In that game he also scored on a TD run of about 30 yards where he juked one defender and ran over another to get into the endzone. I think he also threw another TD, but I may be wrong on that.
Against Vandy he had another play where he avoided the rush, then found an open receiver for a TD. It was a pretty spectacular play.
Against Mercer he threw 2 absolutely perfect fade routes for TDs. One over the inside shoulder. One over the outside shoulder. Both where only our receiver had a chance to catch the ball.
He had another game where he moved around in the pocket (didn't tuck it and run) and kept his eyes downfield until he found a wide open TE in the back of the endzone for a TD.
For the season, his stats are the following:
Att: 53
Comp: 35
%: 66
Yds: 470
INT: 1
TD: 8
Rating: 186.6
So where is all the concern over protecting the ball? He had 1 INT vs 8 TDs. I'd take that any day.
The main issues seems to be that "we don't know how he would do when the game was on the line." So far he's only played when the game was already decided. Yeah. He's never been put in that position. Be we also don't know that he would NOT do well when the game was on the line. I haven't seen anything to make me think he would choke under pressure or against a really good defense. But that's just me.
Without comparing Jalen to Tua, let me say this. From reading this thread you'd think Tua was reckless with the ball and had a bunch of turnovers. But you know what? He has one. That's right, ONE interception this season. Same as Jalen (oops! I said I wouldn't make comparisons to Jalen). True, it was a pick 6. But, you know what he did after that? He came back and threw an absolute strike to Juedy for a TD. This was on a play where the pocket broke down and he scrambled out of trouble, kept his eyes downfield, and hit Juedy at full stride, right in the numbers. It was a beautiful play. So he wasn't too flustered by his previous INT.
In that game he also scored on a TD run of about 30 yards where he juked one defender and ran over another to get into the endzone. I think he also threw another TD, but I may be wrong on that.
Against Vandy he had another play where he avoided the rush, then found an open receiver for a TD. It was a pretty spectacular play.
Against Mercer he threw 2 absolutely perfect fade routes for TDs. One over the inside shoulder. One over the outside shoulder. Both where only our receiver had a chance to catch the ball.
He had another game where he moved around in the pocket (didn't tuck it and run) and kept his eyes downfield until he found a wide open TE in the back of the endzone for a TD.
For the season, his stats are the following:
Att: 53
Comp: 35
%: 66
Yds: 470
INT: 1
TD: 8
Rating: 186.6
So where is all the concern over protecting the ball? He had 1 INT vs 8 TDs. I'd take that any day.
The main issues seems to be that "we don't know how he would do when the game was on the line." So far he's only played when the game was already decided. Yeah. He's never been put in that position. Be we also don't know that he would NOT do well when the game was on the line. I haven't seen anything to make me think he would choke under pressure or against a really good defense. But that's just me.
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No one is saying he sucks... but I could give a .... about SEC off player of the year this season... if we didn't have a three way split in the backfield this year and Harris was getting the carries he should have it would be no contest... as would be the case with any Alabama RBs. Running game and defense carried this team both years Jalen has been QB.
The reason I think he would do just fine, under pressure, is because he has such impeccable fundamentals for a qb. Footwork, vision, quick decision making, accuracy...he's got it all except experience.
And to be fair, it's not like Jalen is a nervous nellie (overall). He's cool as the other side of the pillow, but the reason the play breaks down when he's in the pocket is because he's missing Jalen's aforementioned strengths.
I have not seen anyone bashing Tua. As for the bolded - not about choking, but did you watch the spring game? The second half - that is the only time that we have seen him play with your first string offense against a good defense. He played much more poorly then than Jalen has at any time this year. Small sample size, but let's not pretend that it doesn't exist.
And to be fair, he now has a whole year of experience and practice going against those 1's in practice, plus a very good amount of back up duty.
Again, not knocking him, just making it clear that he is far, far from a slam dunk answer.
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