BREAKING Buchner to start- per reports

[CrimSonami]

Meh, JM had 2-3 seconds, on average, to get the ball out.

IOW, he had roughly the same amount of time it took QE to get the ball out.

We've discussed it to death but while no QB would have flourished behind that OL last Saturday, JM's slow decision-making exacerbated the OL's poor play tremendously.

Look, I'm willing to go with Buchner. I have zero input into that anyway. It should've happened in the Texas game, but JM executed a scoring drive that questioned that decision at the right, or wrong, time depending on how one views it. The truth is we don't have a QE, that we know of, who can create fear and indecision into a defense. I can't help but reflect on the camera shot of Rees with JM on the red phone that just showed how frustrated he was about the situation. Was that because he knew he was limited on play calling due to JM's ability? Was it because he was overwhelmed by the UT defense? Was it because he couldn't depend on the O-line to execute? My feeling is combination of all the above. I'm cautiously optimistic about this change and my expectations are reserved at this point. All I can do now is wait and see. And I will.

Roll Tide!

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

Unfortunatley being able to read a D and process what you see is one of the key skills to be a QB. He did hit 2-3 deep balls. Thats about it. Great athlete, great kid. Cant play QB at this level. Syracuse, Louisana Monroe, places like that, i'm sure he'd be a great fit. High level D1 football. No way.

I'll put it this way. I dont think there is one school in the SEC he'd start at right this second. That includes Vanderbilt. And there are a handful of places in the SEC right now.. where he wouldnt even be the 2nd stringer.... and he shouldnt be that here.

I’m not a mod, so take this in that context. There’s a line - and not a very fine one at that - between commentary and piling on, and if in fact CNS has made the decision to sit Jalen, in my opinion with your multiple posts you’ve crossed it.

Jalen was a 4 star - so he had potential. He’d have been at Texas if not for Ewers’ subsequent commitment, but stuck with Alabama after Ewers switched to tOSU - so he has character. That his potential hasn’t materialized by his RS sophomore season is on the lack of development by the previous OC, compounded by poor performance by the OL and RBs. I’d suggest that he’s displayed his character by how he’s handled this situation so far.

Time to move on and support the team, which includes hoping for Jalen’s continued development…

 

[glorydays1990]

I’m not a mod, so take this in that context. There’s a line - and not a very fine one at that - between commentary and piling on, and if in fact CNS has made the decision to sit Jalen, in my opinion with your multiple posts you’ve crossed it.

Jalen was a 4 star - so he had potential. He’d have been at Texas if not for Ewers’ subsequent commitment, but stuck with Alabama after Ewers switched to tOSU - so he has character. That his potential hasn’t materialized by his RS sophomore season is on the lack of development by the previous OC, compounded by poor performance by the OL and RBs. I’s suggest that he’s displayed his character in how he’s handled this situation so far.

Time to move on and support the team, which includes hoping for Jalen’s continued development…

Again I'm not bashing anyone. This is no different than the Left Tackle not getting his job done and us putting a different one out there. Seems like you are quick to throw the blame on other people as to why he's failing and I prefer for the person that is actually in the arena so to speak to take the blame.

He's been given opportunities multiple times against SEC level competiton(Ark and Tx AM last year, Texas this year) and has yet to resemble what we or any SEC school needs at the QB position to win.

Potiental is great. I see he's a great athlete. I've heard him talk, ive seen him face the media, I've got tons of respect for the kid. But at some point you've got to call it like you see it.

I personally think it was his potiental and his character and all the superlatives that got him the opportunties he's gotten. I think NS wanted very badly for JM to win the QB job. I think the team wanted very badly for JM to win the job. On Saturday it was clear to everyone... he cant and wont win the job.

Thats not piling on. Its fact. And its MY OPINION... that if he's going to be successful playing football he either needs to switch schools or switch posiitons.... and in both cases I wish him well and all the very best.

 

[Tideflyer]

Our CFP starts now meaning we can’t afford to lose from here on out.

There needed to be a change imo just to see what we have behind Milroe and if Buchner is indeed that guy that doesn’t turn the ball over in crucial situations in big games then so be it.

Regardless of whose the QB though, the OL needs to play better and I hope McLaughlin can fix his snapping issues.

Yep. Buchner must have shown an aptitude for fielding ground balls.

 

[rtr90]

Never question CNS QB decisions .. we have seen how successful the backups who transferred in past

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I guess we will see how Milner's sideline demeanor is now.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I don't care until I see an offensive line that isn't 5 pansy flowers floating in the breeze.

Fire off the ball and knock some people on their rear ends. Form a cohesive pocket without pressure up the middle. Open running lanes for RBs.

The rest doesn't matter until that gets fixed.

We'll probably see that tomorrow, just like we saw it against MTSU.

IOW, I'll believe the OL talk when I see them execute at a high level against a team with a pulse.

But the OL looked pretty good against sexat - until the horns realized they could stack the box and not worry about the passing game. If we see some quick intermediate pass completions from Buchner, we will probably find the OL suddenly looks a lot better. Football is a complimentary sport.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Never question CNS QB decisions .. we have seen how successful the backups who transferred in past

I will, because Tua.

 

[westide]

I’m actually kind of surprised that Buchner is starting, I figured he’d get a lot of playing time tomorrow though.

I wonder if it was a situation where they feel that Buchner was the guy all along and he’s now ready or what they saw from Milroe on film shook them so much that they had to make a change immediately?

Buchner needs playing time. He missed a year of HS football because of covid and most of his last year at ND due to an injury. He played well against SC in the bowl game. Two of his intrceptions were tipped balls. He is certainly not as fast as Milroe but he has a set of wheels also.

 

[pelleas]

I think it goes back to Coach saying the QB competition would last on into the season. I am sure Tommy has a lot of input as well and if he is the one with the bug in Coaches ear then Buckner has his chance to wrestle the position away for good as long as he plays well.

Well, yeah. What was surprising to me was that the QB competition seemed to end before the first game.

 

[Tenntiderman]

The move HAD to happen. Milroe's QB play is the worst QB play we've had in 20 years. And thats not just a saying. His starts are only beaten out by Brandon Avalos back in the early 2000s.

Hopefully, Buchner will play well and the team will rally around him. I'd hope to see at least 3 quarters of action much like Milroe got in game 1 to get settled in and run the offense.

I also think its best to move Milroe away from the immediate backup spot, Milore should be the 3 at best. Let Buchner not be looking over his shoulder so to speak.

I don't care until I see an offensive line that isn't 5 pansy flowers floating in the breeze.

Fire off the ball and knock some people on their rear ends. Form a cohesive pocket without pressure up the middle. Open running lanes for RBs.

The rest doesn't matter until that gets fixed.

This. Absolutely this. This OL could get someone hurt. Lookout blockers.

 

[colbysullivan]

It's still kind of mind-boggling Milroe was even the starter to begin with, and even more mind-boggling that Ty Simpson has apparently made no progress at all. It's hard to believe we completely whiffed on both of these guys and Buchner was the backup plan from the portal. I wish we had hit the portal hard as soon as the Kansas State game was over.

 

[theballguy]

good, maybe this will stop some of the whining from the fan base so that we can enjoy the game this week

No chance until we start winning convincingly. It's a birthright y'know.

 

[theballguy]

Meh, JM had 2-3 seconds, on average, to get the ball out.

IOW, he had roughly the same amount of time it took QE to get the ball out.

We've discussed it to death but while no QB would have flourished behind that OL last Saturday, JM's slow decision-making exacerbated the OL's poor play tremendously.

They were together a toxic death spiral.

 

[glorydays1990]

It's still kind of mind-boggling Milroe was even the starter to begin with, and even more mind-boggling that Ty Simpson has apparently made no progress at all. It's hard to believe we completely whiffed on both of these guys and Buchner was the backup plan from the portal. I wish we had hit the portal hard as soon as the Kansas State game was over.

This is what I dont get. Why we didnt attempt to land a big fish out of the transfer portal is beyond me. Hartman at ND was obviously the biggest fish, but even spencer sanders who transferred out of Oklahoma State.

I felt bad for the kid honestly during the texas game. He wasn't ready and it showed.

 

[colbysullivan]

This is what I dont get. Why we didnt attempt to land a big fish out of the transfer portal is beyond me. Hartman at ND was obviously the biggest fish, but even spencer sanders who transferred out of Oklahoma State.

I felt bad for the kid honestly during the texas game. He wasn't ready and it showed.

Regardless of how bad the OL performed at times, there's simply no excuse for a Bama QB to ever make those throws. He's in his 3rd year in the program for crying out loud.

 

[TideEngineer08]

The improved QB play.. will improve the entire offense, including the line.

I have zero issues with our OL. Its not going to be the OL from the Ingram/Richardson/Lacy days. But it will be plenty good enough to win games and championships with.

Texas had a good DL. Perhaps the best interior lineman in the country.

They also knew they could tee off on us because we had an inadequate QB. Give us the QB that can make checks, hit a hot read, run a screen pass, make quick decisions and stand in the pocket. It'll make it easier to run and pass protect both.

The QB has absolutely nothing to do with 3 DL overwhelming 5 OL immediately after the snap.

This happened far more often than some of you seem willing to acknowledge.

 

[Tideflyer]

We'll probably see that tomorrow, just like we saw it against MTSU.

IOW, I'll believe the OL talk when I see them execute at a high level against a team with a pulse.

But the OL looked pretty good against sexat - until the horns realized they could stack the box and not worry about the passing game. If we see some quick intermediate pass completions from Buchner, we will probably find the OL suddenly looks a lot better. Football is a complimentary sport.

It is indeed kind of interesting that at the START last week we were running the ball well. I distinctly remember thinking, " We can run on these guys. "

 

[glorydays1990]

The QB has absolutely nothing to do with 3 DL overwhelming 5 OL immediately after the snap.

This happened far more often than some of you seem willing to acknowledge.

When one of the DL is probably the best DL in the country its not impossible. Add in the fact that there is probably another 1st round draft pick... add to that, that its clear after the first two drives they had ZERO threat or fear that we could throw the ball successfully and its a good recipe for disaster.

Keep in mind our 1st set of runs by RB's went like this, first quarter runs before the Texas Adjustment was made:
+9
+5
+15
+1
+5
+1
+6
0

I see 8 carries for 42 yards. Not awful. From there it went downhill.

 

[TideEngineer08]

We'll probably see that tomorrow, just like we saw it against MTSU.

IOW, I'll believe the OL talk when I see them execute at a high level against a team with a pulse.

But the OL looked pretty good against sexat - until the horns realized they could stack the box and not worry about the passing game. If we see some quick intermediate pass completions from Buchner, we will probably find the OL suddenly looks a lot better. Football is a complimentary sport.

I’m not questioning to complimentary aspects nor am I questioning the need for this QB decision to have been made. But way too many times Texas got pressure without bringing extra. Indeed they were dropping 8 and 3 DL were destroying our OL.

This had nothing to do with Milroe.

We had one good drive running the football. Nothing after that.

I’m ok with Milroe getting benched. The atrocious interceptions were not on the OL. But I’m concerned that some of our fans are putting way too much into this. We will see, and I hope I’m wrong.