Bama Game Thread: Official Postgame Thread - Bama vs. USF...

[Cruloc]

The offense begins and ends with him is why.

Some plays the defense will just win, no matter what. If the quarterback hamstrings the offense before the ball is even snapped, those odds begin to grow.

Indeed.

Yes the OL was a patchwork and played poorly, but at some point a team QB has to help his own OL with reads presnap.

 

[AlexanderFan]

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There’s no doubt he came in to maul, and maul he did.

 

[colbysullivan]

It’s clear Formby shouldn’t have been on the field. I said it last night, and I’ll say it again. Proctor being out shouldn’t force us to change the entire OL. I have questions about this coaching staff now that I didn’t think I would have. I was convinced we were a top 5 staff before the season started.

 

[mlh]

This was an ugly win, but a win nonetheless. OTOH, we had 2 TDs called back and fumbled on the 1 foot line. That's 21 points that could have (should have) been on the scoreboard. That makes the score 63-16.

I've come to the conclusion that what we see in Milroe is what we'll get. I'm not expecting the development and improvement I was hoping to see with the new staff. He's not Joe Montana so I'm going to quit expecting him to be.

I've also come to the conclusion that we won't see "DeBoer's offense" this year. Apparently, we don't have a QB who can run the short passing game like Penix did at UW. We also have a bunch of big, slow OL who can't run the blocking scheme for DeBoer's offense. So the offense is being modified based on the talent we have. That should still be good enough to win 9-10 games - as long as we don't have a bunch of injuries.

I think we'll play much better against UGA, but probably lose that one. I'm thinking UT will expose our inexperienced DBs and that will be our 2nd loss. We should win the rest due to superior talent.

 

[Superdad]

Yep. The same people blamed the OL for the Texas loss but absolutely REFUSE to admit Milroe had a clean pocket on both of his INTs. He literally did not know the DB was there. It’s all on film, and they ignore it.

I know. It's maddening. It must be hard for some of these folks to sleep at night with Milroe's picture under their pillow.

 

[jthomas666]

I think if USF had a more accurate QB, we would be having a very different conversation this morning.

We'd also probably be having a different conversation of Proctor and Pritchett had both been 100%.

Did Milroe make some bad decisions? Yes.

Was that a bad fumble on the goalline? Hell yes. Not sure why they put him under center for that play, but he still has to handle the snap.

Was he responsible for two first-half TDs being called back? No.

Was he responsible for multiple other big plays being called back? No.

He had a decent game. Not great, not good. Decent.

 

[JDCrimson]

Simple fact is when JM takes a long throw on 1st down falls in complete your system running game is off the table with JM. Your left with more JM on 2nd and 3rd down.

This offense will collapse on itself if the defense keeps blitzing with abandon and JM reacts to the blitz the way he has for most of his career.

This is not an offense; its sandlot play simple as that, go deep on every play. Spray and pray offense.

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

I'm happy the way the defense looks and how they responded to all of the 3 and outs of the offense. People stepped up in key times on Defense to stop the bleeding.

On offense it almost looked like everything was solved once Pritchett came into the game. To me we need to stretch the field a bit more from left to right and run more. Maybe, a lot of the errors were due to the injuries on the line. Hard to tell on a game 2.

Roll Tide!

 

[CB4]

When Pritchett came in, yes the Oline play improved. But going into that 4th quarter the USF defense was absolutely “gassed”. USF had players taking “injury dives” starting early in the 4th quarter, trying to get their legs. Watch the tackling on the Jam and Justice runs.

It was a combo of Pritchett in the game and the USF defense being worn out.

 

[AlexanderFan]

It’s clear Formby shouldn’t have been on the field. I said it last night, and I’ll say it again. Proctor being out shouldn’t force us to change the entire OL. I have questions about this coaching staff now that I didn’t think I would have. I was convinced we were a top 5 staff before the season started.

It’s a different philosophy on the offensive line “depth chart”. They list the top ten players and if 1-5 goes down they put 6 in their best position and shuffle the other four around to make it work.

I’m not sure I am a fan of that style.

 

[Easttexastide]

Jm does the line no favors. Nobody has addressed why it's because they are coming not even the blitz but down linemen can pen earns back and come hard. Especially on the ends. Our tackles struggle because he can't feel pressure and step up. When a tackle gets beat which happens alot on any team the tackle can't push defender up field because jm is sitting right there in the pocket.

 

[UAH]

I know. It's maddening. It must be hard for some of these folks to sleep at night with Milroe's picture under their pillow.

It is maddening. I sort of get the reasons that Milroe is the QB. All of the wrong reasons I think, without any desire on my part to revisit the USF discussion of last year. I have to wonder if Milroe is seen as such a delopmental project by the coaching staff that there is no room to develop any other QB with serious game experience. A change of pace if nothing else.

For those who always advocate for Milroe what you see is what you get. He isn't going to change in this college career.

 

[colbysullivan]

Jm does the line no favors. Nobody has addressed why it's because they are coming not even the blitz but down linemen can pen earns back and come hard. Especially on the ends. Our tackles struggle because he can't feel pressure and step up. When a tackle gets beat which happens alot on any team the tackle can't push defender up field because jm is sitting right there in the pocket.

Remember how Mac Jones would just effortlessly slide away from pressure or step up in the pocket? Milroe does none of that. For a guy that is an elite athlete, it’s puzzling.

 

[colbysullivan]

I remember an interview Zow gave one time about a game where his first read every play was to look at the cushion on the outside. If the cushion was large enough he had free rein to throw it, regardless of the actual play call.

Maybe something like that would help Milroe.

I mean, Rees had to literally take the zone read away from Milroe. You think he can recognize pre-snap coverage like our recent QBs can? A bit late for that.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Something I’ve been wondering- do other teams struggle as much as we seem to when a single lineman goes out? I mean every game where we lose a lineman we point to it as the major reason we struggled on O. And I get cohesion and whatnot. But I really cannot remember other teams having their O go from productive to 3&out machine because one lineman went out. Like Michigan lost their senior, team leader lineman before we played them. No drop off. I recall playing other teams like UGA, aTm, Mizzou, etc who lost a lineman before we played them, and the backup was fine. To the point we couldn’t even exploit it. But I also don’t follow those teams at all so can’t really speak as to what the impact really was.

Just seems like we put a lot of weight on one injury and I’m not sure if the difference is how the staff handles it, we are blowing that one injury out of proportion, or other teams also turn into unproductive Os and I just don’t notice.

 

[bamamc1]

Which we basically couldn't do until Pritchett came in...

ETA: I know nothing will change your mind. I know this. But goodness, does EVERY game discussion have to be you guys harping on JM over and over and over and over and over?

This has gone on with the same group doing it 24/7. It’s a shame that such football coaching talent is being wasted on a message board. 5 years ago, this wouldn’t be allowed to take place but here we are.

 

[colbysullivan]

We'd also probably be having a different conversation of Proctor and Pritchett had both been 100%.

Did Milroe make some bad decisions? Yes.

Was that a bad fumble on the goalline? Hell yes. Not sure why they put him under center for that play, but he still has to handle the snap.

Was he responsible for two first-half TDs being called back? No.

Was he responsible for multiple other big plays being called back? No.

He had a decent game. Not great, not good. Decent.

I will stipulate to this. However, he still continues to throw the wrong pass repeatedly, and the fact that 95% of the board will not acknowledge this is maddening.

 

[colbysullivan]

This has gone on with the same group doing it 24/7. It’s a shame that such football coaching talent is being wasted on a message board. 5 years ago, this wouldn’t be allowed to take place but here we are.

5 years ago, we had Tua…

 

[AlexanderFan]

I mean, Rees had to literally take the zone read away from Milroe. You think he can recognize pre-snap coverage like our recent QBs can? A bit late for that.

This wasn’t coverage, this was just the position on the field before the snap.

 

[RammerJammer14]

This has gone on with the same group doing it 24/7. It’s a shame that such football coaching talent is being wasted on a message board. 5 years ago, this wouldn’t be allowed to take place but here we are.

Well, our players get paid to play football and win games now.