And not only should Bama not ever have a QB that is so limited, but it's also a "me centered" style of play that nullifies the talent around him.
We are wasting 5 star athletes at the running back and receiver positions!
Questions about Milroe.
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We are wasting 5 star athletes at the running back and receiver positions!
It almost cost Alabama every talented WR in 2017, and Hurts was just as loved and respected in the locker room. Alabama lost a few good and one great WR after last season.
This kind of offense will bleed the locker room of talent. These kids need film to make it to the NFL, and they want to win championships.
My son and I went to our local high school game a couple weeks ago and I told my son that both teams were running Bama's offense...one read or QB run.
Sadly, both of the teams executed it more consistently than we do.
And the old Jalen took his demotion like a pro and turned out better as a result.
And look where he is today!
I've wondered many times if Jalen has talked to Jalen about this???
To answer your question as simply as possible, RPO's put decision making directly in the QB's lap and they have to make quick and accurate decisions. Secondly, most RPO's utilize the "mid-range" throwing game which is something JM struggles with mightily. In a perfect world he is the quintessential RPO'esque QB (see Lamar Jackson), but the reality of it is he doesn't have the chops with his arm to be that guy. Lastly, to be an effective RPO QB it is imperative that your footwork be on point so that you can transition from run to pass in an effective manner. Putting all of that together, IMO it wouldn't be pretty seeing JM in such a system.
Please tell me this is a standup routine you are testing out with us...
do we care.
I'm going with countrytider here, and think that while the D shoulders a good bit of it, the offense should hold just as much.
We had 4 possessions (not counting the kneel down) in the first half.
Our first possession ended with 6 points for them on a horrific throw from JM (lucky bounce, yes, but still an awful throw) so that's why we had to play from behind - we're down 13, but half that is on the O.
Next possession, score. 7 - 13
3rd possession, after Vandy ran almost 10 minutes of clock to score (7-20), we go THREE AND OUT barely a minute TOP and lost 3 yards. Vandy is winning the field possession battle and gets a field goal after a short drive. (7-23)
We score next up (14-23), D forces a punt, we kneel. half score, 14-23, but 6 of the 23 are 100% on the offense, 3 are linked pretty tightly to the O giving Vandy great field position.
take that out, tie game.
Second half, we start and score to pull within 2 points. (21-23)
D does it's job and forces a punt, although it takes 9 plays and close to 6 minutes and they pin us deep. still losing field position battle.
Offense - THREE AND OUT, -1 yard and barely a minute TOP. We had the chance to take the lead and didn't move the ball at all. One run play, an incomplete pass, then another illegal forward pass on JM. Now we give Vandy a VERY short field at our 45 and they score, 21-30
We answer on the next possession, but only take 1:52 off the clock. (28-30).
D holds on for a field goal (TD called back) (28-33).
Now we have another chance to take the lead, and the offense folds again. 3 plays, 28 yards, but ends with a sack/fumble and consumes less than a minute of clock time.
We give Vandy a short field, again, and they score (28-40)
We answer (35-40), but don't try for onside kick and the D can't get a stop.
Wrap it up, and Vandy punted twice, as did we. Difference was they had two drives end in FGs where we had two drives end in turnovers that led directly to Vandy points (I mean just take back the pick six)
We had 4 of our 9 possessions that were only 3 plays (2, 3 and outs and two TOs). Sorry, but that's just a failure and there's no other way to look at it.
I'm going with countrytider here, and think that while the D shoulders a good bit of it, the offense should hold just as much.
We had 4 possessions (not counting the kneel down) in the first half.
Our first possession ended with 6 points for them on a horrific throw from JM (lucky bounce, yes, but still an awful throw) so that's why we had to play from behind - we're down 13, but half that is on the O.
Next possession, score. 7 - 13
3rd possession, after Vandy ran almost 10 minutes of clock to score (7-20), we go THREE AND OUT barely a minute TOP and lost 3 yards. Vandy is winning the field possession battle and gets a field goal after a short drive. (7-23)
We score next up (14-23), D forces a punt, we kneel. half score, 14-23, but 6 of the 23 are 100% on the offense, 3 are linked pretty tightly to the O giving Vandy great field position.
take that out, tie game.
Second half, we start and score to pull within 2 points. (21-23)
D does it's job and forces a punt, although it takes 9 plays and close to 6 minutes and they pin us deep. still losing field position battle.
Offense - THREE AND OUT, -1 yard and barely a minute TOP. We had the chance to take the lead and didn't move the ball at all. One run play, an incomplete pass, then another illegal forward pass on JM. Now we give Vandy a VERY short field at our 45 and they score, 21-30
We answer on the next possession, but only take 1:52 off the clock. (28-30).
D holds on for a field goal (TD called back) (28-33).
Now we have another chance to take the lead, and the offense folds again. 3 plays, 28 yards, but ends with a sack/fumble and consumes less than a minute of clock time.
We give Vandy a short field, again, and they score (28-40)
We answer (35-40), but don't try for onside kick and the D can't get a stop.
Wrap it up, and Vandy punted twice, as did we. Difference was they had two drives end in FGs where we had two drives end in turnovers that led directly to Vandy points (I mean just take back the pick six)
We had 4 of our 9 possessions that were only 3 plays (2, 3 and outs and two TOs). Sorry, but that's just a failure and there's no other way to look at it.
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Great discussion but sure sounds like a lot of assumption. Is there any real proof of these team mutiny stories involving Milroe? Also, I have a really hard time believing that players would play at less than 100% due to who is playing qb. Many of these dudes have dreamed their entire lives of playing in the NFL. The way to do that is by showing you have value. Are you telling me players would risk that to support 1 qb over another? Sounds like fantasy. If I’m an O lineman, I want the qb that will make me look good and is most likely to win. If I’m a receiver, I want the qb that can get me the ball.
Nothing like a good day of worshipping and studying point spreads
Goes hand in hand 😂
You just answered your own question...
I like confirmation 😂
Dude thank you for breaking it down like that 💯
Especially when you’re 6’2†and 200 lbs in high school and run a sub 4.5 / 40. You look like Superman, he should be a rb or lb in college. I think more lb because his lateral mobility is not very good.
... if by lb you mean linebacker, then "not very good lateral mobility" would not be considered an asset.
However, ... if by lb you meant receiver, then I agree with you. 😉
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