Questions about Milroe.

[NoNC4Tubs]

I'm no coach, but from what I could tell, we had a terrific offensive and defensive scheme in the first half that GA was totally unprepared for and in the second half we got outcoached, outschemed, and outplayed.

And it appears that we've been outcoached, outschemed and outplayed by every opponent since the second half of the GA game, but were lucky to come away with the win against SC.

The entire team is really quite a mess right now.

Bottom line is Milroe's capabilities severely limit the offense...and that is an understatement.

 

[BamaBoySince89]

We are being held hostage by NIL and branding. There is no other explanation I can think of.

There is absolutely no way Ty is so bad that Milroe has to stay in the game.

Exactly. And two, teams are not ignorant of JM weaknesses and they are very telling.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I can’t remember if it was Gmac or AJ but one of them said earlier this week that Milroe doesn’t have a plan when he calls for the snap.

That basically means he has no idea where he has a favorable matchup pre snap based on the Defensive alignment nor is he calling a hot route based on what he’s seeing.

Post snap he seems to primarily look for RW and if he’s covered he maybe finds the Secondary option.

I mean it’s problematic when your QB is bad at reading and seeing the field both pre-snap and post snap.

That reminds me of $cam. He basically played backyard ball because of his athletic ability. Milroe seems to have that kind of mindset, but can't pull it off. Basically, he thinks his improvising can make plays...

 

[Cruiser]

I know there is a lot of discussion about Milroe's regression since first half of Georgia; but the Vandy loss was on the Defense. We scored 35 points in less than 18 minutes of possession; that should beat Vandy anytime. Milroe was 18-24 for 310 yards and distributed the passes to 9 players. The early pick 6 was a bad decision, of course. Like the one against S.C. Ga owned the ball in the second half; as well. Seems like the really poor play/decision making has been against Tenn and S.C; which have excellent D lines?

 

[stlimprov]

How in the world are you a QB at this level and you can't make reads???? I don't know a lot about football, but this seems like a basic must-have skill to me.

You are a once in an epoch athlete who can do things that are so amazing that people get hung up on the potential.

 

[cdub55]

If we narrow it down to ONE THING, this is it! He may have terrible mechanics/footwork/accuracy, but if he can't see the field he can't play QB at this level.

Field vision is fundamental to most sports. And the key to it is being able to see something a split second before it happens. I'm a former basketball player and I compare it to a point guard seeing the passing lane and deciding to make the pass just a split second before the passing lane is visible to everyone else.

But it's not just for QBs and PGs, it's important for receivers and RBs too. TJ Yeldon may be one of the best examples of this in recent Bama RB history. It's why he was so good at executing screen passes. We all remember the one that broke LSU's heart, but he did this all the time. He could see the blocks ahead of him and adjust to where the hole would be. He made something hard look easy.

Not arguing with any of these points, but lets be clear. Field vision has absolutely zero to do with overthrowing RW on a tunnel screen. Field vision has absolutely nothing to do with throwing the ball in the 5th row of the stands on a wide open hitch. JM has an accuracy issue.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I know there is a lot of discussion about Milroe's regression since first half of Georgia; but the Vandy loss was on the Defense. We scored 35 points in less than 18 minutes of possession; that should beat Vandy anytime. Milroe was 18-24 for 310 yards and distributed the passes to 9 players. The early pick 6 was a bad decision, of course. Like the one against S.C. Ga owned the ball in the second half; as well. Seems like the really poor play/decision making has been against Tenn and S.C; which have excellent D lines?

Vandy's Option offense gives everyone problems...

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Not arguing with any of these points, but lets be clear. Field vision has absolutely zero to do with overthrowing RW on a tunnel screen. Field vision has absolutely nothing to do with throwing the ball in the 5th row of the stands on a wide open hitch. JM has an accuracy issue.

Its a combination of those...

 

[stlimprov]

This also have me thinking about folks who have a lot of charisma, but don't actually have that IT factor. Enough charisma that everyone assumes they must...but it just isn't there. Perhaps like an acting role played without flaw, but never finding inspiration.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Bottom line is Milroe's capabilities severely limit the offense...and that is an understatement.

Not arguing with any of these points, but lets be clear. Field vision has absolutely zero to do with overthrowing RW on a tunnel screen. Field vision has absolutely nothing to do with throwing the ball in the 5th row of the stands on a wide open hitch. JM has an accuracy issue.

JM has a lot of issues. But which is harder, hitting a wide open receiver or throwing to one covered? The problem is he isn't seeing the wide open receivers. That's a huge problem.

 

[Cruloc]

Not arguing with any of these points, but lets be clear. Field vision has absolutely zero to do with overthrowing RW on a tunnel screen. Field vision has absolutely nothing to do with throwing the ball in the 5th row of the stands on a wide open hitch. JM has an accuracy issue.

Milroe will absolutely never ever never have accuracy with his throwing mechanics as is. His entire body never looks right when he's throwing. His footwork is bad, his hips are open so of course his front shoulder flies open way too soon.

I'll still say he's accurate on deep throws simply because the receiver has time to adjust.

His accurate throws, to me, would fall under.....blind squirrel finding a nut.

 

[davefrat]

That reminds me of $cam. He basically played backyard ball because of his athletic ability. Milroe seems to have that kind of mindset, but can't pull it off. Basically, he thinks his improvising can make plays...

Cam was an NFL MVP...dude could play QB.

 

[cdub55]

Cam was an NFL MVP...dude could play QB.

Agreed. It should be a misdemeanor to use CN and JM in the same sentence at this point.

 

[Superdad]

Vandy's Option offense gives everyone problems...

For sure. Georgia State barely beat them.

 

[Cruiser]

Vandy's Option offense gives everyone problems...

Yes, but the only other team that gave them 40 was Alcorn State; 35 points beats them in every other game they played. I expect Texas will throttle them; though I would like to be wrong ?

 

[DzynKingRTR]

For sure. Georgia State barely beat them.

Fun fact: Georgia State has not won a game since beating Vandy

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Agreed. It should be a misdemeanor to use CN and JM in the same sentence at this point.

Milroe certainly isn't as self-centered as $cam.

 

[countrytider]

Yeah honestly going for it on 4th and 22 there was not that bad of a choice.

The actual play call however? Or whatever that was that Lank checked into?

Lord have mercy…

 

[cdub55]

Milroe certainly isn't as self-centered as $cam.

I don't know JM at all. All I know about him is what I see on camera and from what I hear from people close to the program.

I do know Cam and have been around him numerous times. My thoughts are this...

What you see is what you get from Cam. Whether you like him or not is your own personal opinion and I won't argue for or against that. More than likely if he was Bama's QB and he led us to a NC then many of you would change your opinion on him, if I had to guess.

I'm not so sure we get the full picture from JM. He says the right things and comes off as the type of guy you would let date your daughter. He is phenomenal in front of the camera and gives team first mentality answers. Again, I have zero experience with being around him so file this under "intellectual guessing", but something doesn't add up when it comes to him for me.

 

[BamaMoon]

JM has a lot of issues. But which is harder, hitting a wide open receiver or throwing to one covered? The problem is he isn't seeing the wide open receivers. That's a huge problem.

Agreed. Guys have been decently successful at this level without being able to throw a guy open, which takes elite field vision.

But if you can't see a guy wide open, you can't see the field at all!!!