Questions about Milroe.

[UAH]

Milroe will absolutely never ever never have accuracy with his throwing mechanics as is. His entire body never looks right when he's throwing. His footwork is bad, his hips are open so of course his front shoulder flies open way too soon.

I'll still say he's accurate on deep throws simply because the receiver has time to adjust.

His accurate throws, to me, would fall under.....blind squirrel finding a nut.

I was surprised with hs early success throwing the ball this season up until the second half of the Georgia game. It seems that when he comes under pressure he completely reverts.

As said earlier on here some team in the NFL will draft him as a developmental project due to his obvious physical gifts.

 

[gtgilbert]

I'm late to this thread, so if this has already been answered, I apologize.

Are we to understand the 1st half of the Georgia game -- where Milroe was playing lights out -- was just a fluke?

Certainly seems like that was an outlier. Something not ever seen before, or since.

 

[SkullDuckery]

... if by lb you mean linebacker, then "not very good lateral mobility" would not be considered an asset.

However, ... if by lb you meant receiver, then I agree with you.

Not having lateral movement in general is a bad thing in football. To clarify…he don’t need to be a qb.

 

[SkullDuckery]

It was the perfect storm for the Barn that year... $cam was bottled lightning at the QB position... They had cheap shot dude (Fairley I think?) on the DL who was a bonafide disruptor and a pretty solid RB in Dyer. Surrounding those three were like 20 seniors who had been in the program for years and provided a solid if average support group.

Wasn’t Lutz on that team?

 

[gtgilbert]

How in the world are you a QB at this level and you can't make reads???? I don't know a lot about football, but this seems like a basic must-have skill to me.

and this is the reason that many of us haven't been thrilled with his play over the last season and a half.

 

[SkullDuckery]

We also don't seem to be capable of adjusting during the game, and that's on the coaches.

We went from one of the all-time greats in terms of fixing things in-game to what appears to be no adjustments at all.

That may be because the guy that touches the ball every play isn’t capable of making it happen.

 

[gtgilbert]

I know there is a lot of discussion about Milroe's regression since first half of Georgia; but the Vandy loss was on the Defense. We scored 35 points in less than 18 minutes of possession; that should beat Vandy anytime. Milroe was 18-24 for 310 yards and distributed the passes to 9 players. The early pick 6 was a bad decision, of course. Like the one against S.C. Ga owned the ball in the second half; as well. Seems like the really poor play/decision making has been against Tenn and S.C; which have excellent D lines?

Negative ghost rider. I already wrote this up in great detail so won't do it again, but our offense had TWO 3 and out possessions, and TWO others that were three and a turnover and two of the 3 and.. possessions happened when the D had done their job and the O had the chance to actually take the lead. one TO was a direct pick 6, one "and out" led directly to a very short field and a field goal. Going 3 and out with almost ZERO yards gained on those possessions and also taking about a minute per possession means the O lost the field possession battle and made it way, way harder for the D. Not that the D was blameless, but the O deserves just as much of the blame...

 

[81usaf92]

Stat

In SEC play we have forced 11 TO’s. Scored on 13 points off Turnovers.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

That may be because the guy that touches the ball every play isn’t capable of making it happen.

I'm going with this. Again, I refer back to the Tommy Rees shot of his face in his hands while Milroe crapped his pants all over the field not being able to make the right reads and making bad decisions. It's odd that with another OC we're right back in the same situation. The common denominator is Milroe. The truth is, he's killing the offense.

 

[BamaMoon]

Stat

In SEC play we have forced 11 TO’s. Scored on 13 points off Turnovers.

That's 100% criminally damning to the offense.

 

[cdub55]

I'm going with this. Again, I refer back to the Tommy Rees shot of his face in his hands while Milroe crapped his pants all over the field not being able to make the right reads and making bad decisions. It's odd that with another OC we're right back in the same situation. The common denominator is Milroe. The truth is, he's killing me.

Fixed it for me...

 

[Cruiser]

Negative ghost rider. I already wrote this up in great detail so won't do it again, but our offense had TWO 3 and out possessions, and TWO others that were three and a turnover and two of the 3 and.. possessions happened when the D had done their job and the O had the chance to actually take the lead. one TO was a direct pick 6, one "and out" led directly to a very short field and a field goal. Going 3 and out with almost ZERO yards gained on those possessions and also taking about a minute per possession means the O lost the field possession battle and made it way, way harder for the D. Not that the D was blameless, but the O deserves just as much of the blame...

Not sure what "negative ghost rider" is; of course there is plenty of blame to go around but my main point was that it seems the worst Milroe regression has been in the last 2 games. It seems he does not respond to pressure well and he is going to see a lot more of it. I still contend 35 points is PLENTY to beat Vandy; if we ONLY give up 50% on 3rd down conversions.

 

[dvldog]

I just posted the same thing in another thread.

That’s a bad break for us because Mizzou won’t be as competitive to put stress on the QB situation to make a move.

We’ll still struggle but not enough to make a switch.

Then we’ll go to LSU and it will be Tenn Part 2 and a crowd going rabid and Ty not having the reps and experience from the Mizz game.

This.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Wasn’t Lutz on that team?

Yes. Scored the go-ahead TD on us in 10 I believe.

 

[dvldog]

Milroe certainly isn't as self-centered as $cam.

Maybe we just haven’t seen it yet. Cam wasn’t so terrible at the Barn. He started showing his rear after tuning pro when pretense was no longer necessary.

 

[countrytider]

That's 100% criminally damning to the offense.

BINGO

 

[davefrat]

That may be because the guy that touches the ball every play isn’t capable of making it happen.

Last I checked, he's not running the defense.

 

[Titans&Tide]

Last I checked, he's not running the defense.

Nope. He's running the offense that turns 11 turnovers in SEC play into a whopping 13 points.

 

[B1GTide]

How in the world are you a QB at this level and you can't make reads???? I don't know a lot about football, but this seems like a basic must-have skill to me.

It is worse than not being able to make the reads. It is obvious that he doesn't understand the concepts. To make a read you have to understand the plays that you are running and how those plays might be defended. It is complicated to a newbie, but should be simple to a person playing QB for as many years as Milroe.

Every player lines up knowing their role on a given play. The exact way that you carry out your role depends on the way that the defense attacks the play.

The QB has to have a plan. He has to know with absolute certainty where he will be going with the ball in specific scenarios based on how the defense attacks the play.

It isn't that he can't read defenses. That is a symptom. The problem is that he doesn't even understand the plays that he is running.

 

[davefrat]

Nope. He's running the offense that turns 11 turnovers in SEC play into a whopping 13 points.

And my post was about the staff not making adjustments on either side of the ball.

I don't such much adjustment on either side of the ball during the games.

The offense is a mess...the defense is a mess.

The entire team is a mess.