Bama Players Transferring (catch all thread)

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Kelby Collins d lineman from Florida has committed to Alabama. Originally from the Birmingham area (Gardendale).

Florida DE Kelby Collins transfers to Alabama football. What it means for Crimson Tide

Alabama football added an edge piece for its 2025 defensive line.

www.tuscaloosanews.com

That's a great pickup

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

My question is how can you even verify they have these offers. I guess you have to just evaluate whether they're worth what they're saying.... But there i worry about the kids in these situations too.
For instance if Auburn or Lane floated an offer to just get an extra million off our books to prevent it from going somewhere else. UNLV situation proves that these kids are told things that don't come to fruition, plus these agents tell them things just to try and get a quick buck... Some enter the portal and don't come out lol

Plus now there's talk about mbakwe playing both sides of the ball, which is just insane to me. I don't know if he used to do this, but... Wow

Correct that there is no way to control it as the system is currently built. It is the wild west

Bak played corner and qb in high school. He was good enough to get a scholarship at many schools as a qb honestly but sabans eval was cb. I am Honestly excited by him getting the ball in his hands more he's a playmaker.

I doubt he goes iron man full time but there's no reason he can't see some plays at wideout.

I dont think travis hunter is a fair comparison for anyone but bak was ust that kind of athlete in high school.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

There needs to be some kind of contractual lock-in for the players. CFB or NCAA rules like “no tampering allowed” dont work. Threat of civil suits for breach of contract would probably work however. Not a lawyer, but seems to be where things are going to have to go. Ppl need to be locked into contracts with terms, durations and amounts, perhaps to these booster collective groups as the prime holders. Otherwise there will be this circular chaos with one-sided leverage

 

[CajunCrimson]

Nah, no one has killed a fat kid with a boulder yet. Plus they were British.

Seems like a Phil Fulmer joke in there somewhere. Can’t quite find it.

 

[CB4]

Seems like a Phil Fulmer joke in there somewhere. Can’t quite find it.

Phil Fulmer and Brian Kelly walk into a pub…..

 

[Ole Man Dan]

had more catches and yards as a true freshman in a single season with BY than he's been able to get in 2 full seasons, combined, with JM.

BUT...
That was catching passes from a QB.

 

[Rocky Mtn Bob]

Kelby Collins d lineman from Florida has committed to Alabama. Originally from the Birmingham area (Gardendale).

Florida DE Kelby Collins transfers to Alabama football. What it means for Crimson Tide

Alabama football added an edge piece for its 2025 defensive line.

www.tuscaloosanews.com

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

There needs to be some kind of contractual lock-in for the players. CFB or NCAA rules like “no tampering allowed” dont work. Threat of civil suits for breach of contract would probably work however. Not a lawyer, but seems to be where things are going to have to go. Ppl need to be locked into contracts with terms, durations and amounts, perhaps to these booster collective groups as the prime holders. Otherwise there will be this circular chaos with one-sided leverage

Contracts would work but the ncaa is clinging to an amateurism model that won't allow it.

Tampering is against the rules but that only applies to the schools and their official reps. Disnet include a booster just texting a kid after getting their number....and that's basically how it's done.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Contracts would work but the ncaa is clinging to an amateurism model that won't allow it.

Tampering is against the rules but that only applies to the schools and their official reps. Disnet include a booster just texting a kid after getting their number....and that's basically how it's done.

Yes. The other problem, which im not sure how to get around, is that the chaos with the portal schedule is due to a disconnect between football season and academic calendar (ie starting January.classes). Maybe football season has to start a month earlier?

There are now two parallel efforts (NIL professionalism vs student athleticism) with different objectives, values, and timelines. Something has to give (and change)

Theres no dancing around it as the “leadership” hoped. You have to wonder what they were thinking. They must have known you know what would hit the fan. Probably hoped things would sort themselves out. Doesnt seem like that’s happening

 

[JDCrimson]

UA is where slot receivers go to die while JM is QB...

BUT...
That was catching passes from a QB.

 

[GrayTide]

In the article I posted in this thread, it was said that there should only be one transfer portal period each year and that portal period should be arbitrarily, April 1 - May 31. That lets the team get through spring practice and those that want to enter the portal have two months leading up to the end of the semester to either stay or go. This would solve the transferring period in December that leads up to the CFP and bowl games. Just an opinion..

 

[CajunCrimson]

In the article I posted in this thread, it was said that there should only be one transfer portal period each year and that portal period should be arbitrarily, April 1 - May 31. That lets the team get through spring practice and those that want to enter the portal have two months leading up to the end of the semester to either stay or go. This would solve the transferring period in December that leads up to the CFP and bowl games. Just an opinion..

April 1 takes some of the leverage away from the portal player because of early enrollees. It also gives teams far less time to integrate portal players into the team.

 

[B1GTide]

April 1 takes some of the leverage away from the portal player because of early enrollees. It also gives teams far less time to integrate portal players into the team.

The SMU coach had a good idea - move the portal date back, but make sure that it takes place before spring practices begin. Then, if there has to be a second portal window, have it take place after the spring games, but before the summer practice schedules begin. It would work better for everyone. The only problem - it ignores the academic calendar.

 

[RTR2u]

The SMU had a good idea - move the portal date back, but make sure that it take place before spring practices begin. Then, if there has to be a second portal window, have it take place after the spring games, but before the summer practice schedules begin. It would work better for everyone. The only problem - it ignores the academic calendar.

Who is actually going to school for the education? We've already seen from last year how easy it is to leave a school and enroll in another long after drop/add. I get what you are saying, B1G, and if this is done maybe, just maybe the regular student body might rise up and say "enough is enough." Who am I kidding, though? My whole beef with all of this is how unfair it is to the rest of the students at a school. The courts really did not think this through.

 

[crimsonaudio]

There needs to be some kind of contractual lock-in for the players. CFB or NCAA rules like “no tampering allowed” dont work. Threat of civil suits for breach of contract would probably work however. Not a lawyer, but seems to be where things are going to have to go. Ppl need to be locked into contracts with terms, durations and amounts, perhaps to these booster collective groups as the prime holders. Otherwise there will be this circular chaos with one-sided leverage

The problem is there really cannot be any rule preventing a player from making money based off of their name, image, or likeness, so while you can set up contracts, etc., enticements to play for more money will always be there for those willing to skirt the spirit of the rule in order to buy players.

Really, unless / until the transfer portal is fixed there's nothing to stop the continued destruction of the sport.

 

[Power Eye]

Who is actually going to school for the education? We've already seen from last year how easy it is to leave a school and enroll in another long after drop/add. I get what you are saying, B1G, and if this is done maybe, just maybe the regular student body might rise up and say "enough is enough." Who am I kidding, though? My whole beef with all of this is how unfair it is to the rest of the students at a school. The courts really did not think this through.

Roughly 20% - 25% of all Power 4 school players will play football beyond college, and most of those will be less than a year or two. Now, a lot higher percentage think they will play beyond college, but the reality is they won't, and certainly not in any capacity that will provide for their future. Therefore, regardless of whether the kids are there for an education, or whether the portal windows are bad from a football perspective, the academic aspects should come first for the students'/players' own good. I know that almost sounds silly in this day and age, but the reality is that the vast majority of college football players leave college with something that is much more useful to them than their athletic ability, whether they want it or not.

 

[AlexanderFan]

The problem is there really cannot be any rule preventing a player from making money based off of their name, image, or likeness, so while you can set up contracts, etc., enticements to play for more money will always be there for those willing to skirt the spirit of the rule in order to buy players.

Really, unless / until the transfer portal is fixed there's nothing to stop the continued destruction of the sport.

That’s just where I’m at. Let them make their fortunes somewhere else

 

[B1GTide]

Roughly 20% - 25% of all Power 4 school players will play football beyond college, and most of those will be less than a year or two. Now, a lot higher percentage think they will play beyond college, but the reality is they won't, and certainly not in any capacity that will provide for their future. Therefore, regardless of whether the kids are there for an education, or whether the portal windows are bad from a football perspective, the academic aspects should come first for the students'/players' own good. I know that almost sounds silly in this day and age, but the reality is that the vast majority of college football players leave college with something that is much more useful to them than their athletic ability, whether they want it or not.

I agree with you, but now that they are getting paid i think that this is their burden, not the school's. If their playing days are over, they can use some of that money to finish their degrees - or not - their choice.

 

[RTR2u]

Roughly 20% - 25% of all Power 4 school players will play football beyond college, and most of those will be less than a year or two. Now, a lot higher percentage think they will play beyond college, but the reality is they won't, and certainly not in any capacity that will provide for their future. Therefore, regardless of whether the kids are there for an education, or whether the portal windows are bad from a football perspective, the academic aspects should come first for the students'/players' own good. I know that almost sounds silly in this day and age, but the reality is that the vast majority of college football players leave college with something that is much more useful to them than their athletic ability, whether they want it or not.

I truly hope so.

 

[Power Eye]

The problem is there really cannot be any rule preventing a player from making money based off of their name, image, or likeness, so while you can set up contracts, etc., enticements to play for more money will always be there for those willing to skirt the spirit of the rule in order to buy players.

Really, unless / until the transfer portal is fixed there's nothing to stop the continued destruction of the sport.

You're right, but there can be rules preventing NIL deals that are tied to playing for a specific school.