BREAKING Colin Hitschler has been informed he will not return to the Crimson Tide next year.

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I think some of us are a little too hung up on Milroe and the offense to take this change for what it is.

If you take your car in because it is in limp mode because of a fuel pump issue, and your mechanic finds a wheel bearing is about to fail, you replace the wheel bearing now if you have the parts on hand, even if the fuel pump has to be ordered.
 
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Overall numbers may be comparable, but the consistency was not there this year. That’s the difference in 12-2, and SEC champs vs. what we got this year.
Meh, I don't recall ANY consistency in 2023, other than most all of us wanting to see Ty Simpson get a shot.

Milroe's numbers were similar to last year though he made even more critical mistakes - those aren't the OC's fault...

Not aimed at you specifically, but many seem to be remembering the last few Saban years as if they were the same as the peak years. 2023 was probably the least consistent, least disciplined team Saban fielded at Bama.
 

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I mean, maybe?
2024 scoring offense: 33.8 ppg (#24)
2023 scoring offense: 34.0 ppg (#24)

2024 passing offense: 326.4 ypg (#56)
2023 passing offense: 220.6 ypg (#70)

2024 total offense: 410.2 ypg (#42)
2023 total offense: 393.1 ypg (#58)
Those 2024 stats can’t be right.

I was looking at them this morning and Milroe was less than 240 PYPG and the team as well.
 

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Charles Potter says they will move other defensive coaches around.

Just me, and I’m old school….if you are canning a guy because he is toxic with the staff, or can’t recruit or can’t get the job done of the field, then okay he needs to go. But I just don’t want to see decisions made on coaches based on a popularity contest with players. I played for several coaches I didn’t like. Some were just plain jerks and terrible coaches. Others were tremendously demanding and tough. And I didn’t like them. But when I stepped back, I realized they were almost always “fair”. And they made me better. I didn’t like them at the time, but I grew to respect them. One of them now, almost 50 years later is one of my closest friends.

A good example recently is Najee Harris and Coach Saban. Najee will point blank tell you that he and Coach Saban butted heads often. And he came close to leaving, but he didn’t because he respected Coach Saban more than he like him. In the end, Najee became an ever better player and he probably made Coach Saban a better coach. And Najee was quoted as saying “I love that little man”.

Listen to Cole Cubelic talk about playing for Rick Trickett. Cole sure as heck didn’t like Trickett and he certainly is open to saying so. But think Cole will also say Trickett made him a better player.

My point? Relationships between players and coaches is a two way street, just like the relationship between a subordinate and manager in the workplace. Organizationally not everyone has to like each. But there must be mutual respect.
I agree, the players the coach is hardest on are the ones with the most potential, it's a different day, now it's popsicles and ice cream.
 

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Meh, I don't recall ANY consistency in 2023, other than most all of us wanting to see Ty Simpson get a shot.

Milroe's numbers were similar to last year though he made even more critical mistakes - those aren't the OC's fault...

Not aimed at you specifically, but many seem to be remembering the last few Saban years as if they were the same as the peak years. 2023 was probably the least consistent, least disciplined team Saban fielded at Bama.
Not talking about those things. I agree, but from a results standpoint it’s not even a comparison.

This year, 17 points @ Tenn (L), 3 points at OU (L), and 13 against Michigan (L)….all would have among our lowest totals of any games last year other than the South Florida game…
 

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Not talking about those things. I agree, but from a results standpoint it’s not even a comparison.

This year, 17 points @ Tenn (L), 3 points at OU (L), and 13 against Michigan (L)….all would have among our lowest totals of any games last year other than the South Florida game…
Yes, and Milroe was materially worse in his decision making this season than last.

So again, not sure it points to Rees being better - I think Milroe hit his ceiling and more teams knew how to attack him this season as there was a lot more film.
 

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Oh, I'd bet he knew - Saban wanted him in early 2023 before he hired Rees. Between that and the month-plus he was set to be Bama's OC before accepting the Seattle job, he had plenty of time to scope out who he would be coaching...
And Grubb realized he would have alcohol induced cirrhosis of the liver within a year so he took the Seattle job.
 

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I should bite my tongue and I kind of want to...

I do think the reason for displeasure at the job Sheridan did should be elucidated. My reaction to the move on defense might have been an over-reaction but there is context.

DeBoer is an offensive guy. That's his strength, that's his genius, that's where we should see improvement. I understand Milroe is an issue, I'm not disputing that. However, given the personnel you should at least have expected a modest improvement on offense. Even if not in the passing game, at least an improved running game. Something to show improvement. If this team ran the ball better not only would I be happier but they'd have a better record as well.

That did not occur. A lot of people also expected Milroe to show development, DeBoer chose to start him and stick with him and had a lot of positive things to say, so it made it sound like he was getting better. He in fact got worse, 7 less passing TDs, so on so forth, despite having Ryan Williams to throw to.

You bring in an offensive guy in DeBoer and the offense doesn't get better. It's easy to say that's all on Milroe but he was there last year and he was seemingly used more effectively last year.

Why specifically is Sheridan a red flag? He's a concern because of his track record. Each of his two years at Indiana the offenses got worse, including over a ten point drop off his final season. So he's run 3 offenses, two got worse, none got better. That's nothing to indicate he's a great play caller.

This doesn't mean Alabama's offense can't be good with Sheridan next year. I guess it could, but I just don't understand why Alabama can't go out and get one of the best offensive coordinators there is (they are paying Sheridan as much as he made in his past 3 seasons combined including as Indiana OC) instead of a guy who has never improved an offense. It just doesn't make sense to me, unless I consider his relationship with DeBoer.

I understand why he got the OC job, it was a rush hire. I get that, but now is the time to bring in another play caller, even if you just put co-OC on his title. I just can not understand the idea of putting all the eggs in the Sheridan basket. Having said that, may be that's being sorted out behind the scenes...
 

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I understand why he got the OC job, it was a rush hire. I get that, but now is the time to bring in another play caller, even if you just put co-OC on his title. I just can not understand the idea of putting all the eggs in the Sheridan basket. Having said that, may be that's being sorted out behind the scenes...
All the eggs aren’t in Sheridan’s basket even right now. Yes he is OC in title but Shepherd is Co OC as well. There is some system going on between Shep, DeBoer, and Sheridan in terms of gameplanning and play calling.
 

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Couple of things to keep in mind...

1- we have no idea if Sheridan will be the OC next season or not.

2- and I know this is a tough one to swallow, but CKD (and you can include basically every P4 coach in this) has forgotten more about coaching, managing young men, etc. than anyone here will ever know. I suspect those who will elucidate for pages about what CKD should or shouldn't be doing would end up softly saying "Oh..." if they got to sit with him and hear his explanation of all that goes into these decisions.

We're all fans, many of us die-hard, but acting as if CKD doesn't have more riding on the line when it's literally his career rather than what we like to discuss as fans is a bit silly.

Be patient, let the man work. He knows FAR more about what he's doing than any 100 of us combined do.
 

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I like Chuck. One of the biggest complaints I've heard about this season is a perceived lack of adjustments. He definitely knows how to make adjustments because he did it successfully against Michigan. His defense was getting destroyed in the first quarter, to the point where I didn't think Michigan was ever going to punt, then they didn't give up another TD till the 4th quarter, and if I remember correctly, those were due to short field. I know he won't be the DC, but I think it'll be helpful to have him on the field. Dude can coach.
 
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Some of yall that are accusing DeBoer of hiring unproven friends need to brush up on the 2007 staff. Aside from Steele, Pendry, and Middleton most of the staff were guys who were on Saban’s staff at Miami, lesser guys who worked with Saban in the past, and guys who were high risk additions. Don’t look at the names and say “well he now is..” I’m talking about “what did this guy do before 2007”.
 

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Yes, and Milroe was materially worse in his decision making this season than last.

So again, not sure it points to Rees being better - I think Milroe hit his ceiling and more teams knew how to attack him this season as there was a lot more film.
Not to mention that he was giving the play away. I saw this video before the article came out. A random tiktoker noticed his feet would sell us out. You know if a fan caught it, opposing coaches were onto it.
 
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