BREAKING Conservative Charlie Kirk Shot During Debate In Utah - part 2

[selmaborntidefan]

As far as firing folks, it depends.

A business owner has to take into account how it may affect his or her business. A high school principal maybe not so much. The principal should be glad that the offending teacher stopped their offense at what they said, and wasn’t sleeping with students in this day and age.

 

[Tidewater]

My question would be - do you or have you ever owned your own business?

Not being snarky, just a real question.

Because the reality is keeping someone on who is willing to post such on social media is what most businesses that care about staying in business avoid. I couldn't care less what someone's position is, if they draw the ire of my (current or potential) customers due to their personal choices, I will remove them from my company.

Okay, fair point.
In the case of a small business owner, I guess the yardstick for termination is that, "If I hear about your offensive speech, then your speech is getting linked to my business (because I'm hearing about it), and thus you are gone. Be careful what say on line and whether you are linked in some way to my business, even if indirectly."

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And now bringing you a blast from the past, back when conservatives would tell you free speech was a GOOD THING!!! Of course that's so......2017!

And we look at the words of Howard Mr. Scuh-REEEEAAAMMMMM Dean!! (His tweet is like Harry Reid, it's gone).

PolitiFact | Howard Dean's wrong tweet that the Constitution doesn't protect 'hate speech'


Dean took to Twitter with his reaction to comments Coulter made in 2002 about the Oklahoma City bomber. She said, "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"Hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment," Dean tweeted April 20.

We reached out to Dean’s staff for comment and didn’t hear back. But he did link to a tweet from former New York Times reporter Steven Greenhouse that referenced Coulter’s statement that she regrets that the Oklahoma City bomber didn’t hit the New York Times building.

 

[Crimson1967]

The excuses are legendaryof course.

democrats will tell you they lose elections because gerrymandering. But Senate seats cannot be gerrymander nor can governor races nor can the White House.

They will tell you they only lost because you know electoral college, but they just lost the popular vote last November.

That said, they are not in nearly as bad trouble as the press coverage keeps trying to say.

I have read that the losing party is dead in just about every election in my life. But somehow they manage to rebound.

 

[92tide]

i guess that trial balloon popped

Politico (@politico.com)

NEW: Attorney General Pam Bondi has now appeared to walk back comments promising to target broadly defined “hate speech” following the killing of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk, after facing significant backlash from both conservative and liberal circles over her threat to curb free...

bsky.app

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I have read that the losing party is dead in just about every election in my life. But somehow they manage to rebound.

Republicans are dead:
1936,1964, 1970, 1976, 1992, 2006, 2008, 2020

Democrats are dead:
1994, 2004, 2024

Nobody really considered the Democrats dead - except at the Presidential level - in the 1980s because they still controlled most of the country everywhere outside the White House and Senate for six years. Even when Bush won in 1988, he pulled off the miracle of winning despite his party losing seats in both houses.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Nate Silver is already musing about how Heather Cox Richardson is going to walk back her suggestions Robinson is a RW (here’s a hint: she won’t).

As I've been saying for years, Heather is a HACK, not a historian, who is supposed to tell the truth. Something about history making you uncomfortable.


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The phrase that kept coming up over the last several days was “make fetch happen.” It’s a reference to the film Mean Girls, when one of the characters tries to make the word “fetch” trendy, using it to mean “cool” or “awesome.” Another character eventually slaps back: “Stop trying to make ‘fetch’ happen. It’s NOT going to happen!”

Over the weekend, it appeared MAGA leaders were trying to make fetch happen, hoping to distract attention from Trump’s and popular anger about the economy, corruption, the administration's disregard for the law, and the Epstein files by trying to gin up the idea that the United States is being torn apart by political violence coming from what MAGA figures called “the left,” or “Democrats,” or just “THEM.”

Their evidence was the murder of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk last Wednesday in Utah, although the motive of the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, remains unclear. Today the state of Utah indicted Robinson on seven counts, including aggravated murder. But a 2024 report from a research arm of the Department of Justice itself noted that “ince 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists.” Julia Ornedo of The Daily Beast reported that the Department of Justice removed the report from its website after the shooting.

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Yep, that's a liberal "historian" for you:
1) be wrong about something
2) distract from how wrong you were
3) unless Heather wants to argue Kash and the FBI concocted the text messages - which would be very easy to prove - we absolutely do know who this guy was and why he did it.

(Heather can't admit that, of course, because Heather lives in the world of "liberal good, conservative bad").

The most you'll ever get from this slug is a passing phrase at best, followed by whatever accusations she can make against the regime.

 

[AlexanderFan]

I was told overturning Roe v Wade would guarantee a Democrat victory. What happened?

Because the reality is that the attorney general threatening prosecution for refusing to print flyers is far more concerning than giving the states back abortion control

 

[Crimson1967]

Because the reality is that the attorney general threatening prosecution for refusing to print flyers is far more concerning than giving the states back abortion control

She can’t and she won’t. By 2028 this will be forgotten.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

She can’t and she won’t. By 2028 this will be forgotten.

No, this won't happen, remember when the guy who falsely claimed the opposition stole the election and inspired a storming of the US Capitol after mismanaging the worst pandemic in a century - remember when the voters had to consider him again, and he didn't get a single vote????

 

[92tide]

poe's law is rolling over in it's grave

Karoline Leavitt Touts Bizarre Holy Sign After Charlie Kirk’s Death

Trump’s press secretary shared a bonkers post to her Instagram Stories on Tuesday.

www.thedailybeast.com

President Donald Trump’s Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt shared a bizarre post on Tuesday that appeared to claim that an earthquake in Utah on the night of Charlie Kirk’s death was a sign of God’s anger.
The post, originally made by a user on X before being shared on the Instagram account that Leavitt reposted it from, reads, “On the night Charlie was shot, a 4.1 earthquake struck Utah. In scripture, 40 represents trials; 41 signifies a shift. It hit at 5:57 local time, 7:57 Eastern.”
“Acts 7:57 describes Stephen, the first martyr, stoned as the crowd silenced his truth. The Bible says the earth trembles when God is angry. That night, as a voice was silenced, the ground groaned.” Reposting the tweet, Leavitt simply added, “Wow.”

 

[selmaborntidefan]

poe's law is rolling over in it's grave

Karoline Leavitt Touts Bizarre Holy Sign After Charlie Kirk’s Death

Trump’s press secretary shared a bonkers post to her Instagram Stories on Tuesday.

www.thedailybeast.com

Sounds like an unequal distribution curve to me........

 

[AlexanderFan]

She can’t and she won’t. By 2028 this will be forgotten.

Not at the current rate of expanding stupid going on, this will be topped.

I would agree with you normally, but lately the parties have used stupid things as springboards to even stupider things. It just keeps escalating, and to have the AG on record as saying something like that it is truly alarming.

 

[Crimson1967]

As I've been saying for years, Heather is a HACK, not a historian, who is supposed to tell the truth. Something about history making you uncomfortable.


====================

The phrase that kept coming up over the last several days was “make fetch happen.” It’s a reference to the film Mean Girls, when one of the characters tries to make the word “fetch” trendy, using it to mean “cool” or “awesome.” Another character eventually slaps back: “Stop trying to make ‘fetch’ happen. It’s NOT going to happen!”

Over the weekend, it appeared MAGA leaders were trying to make fetch happen, hoping to distract attention from Trump’s and popular anger about the economy, corruption, the administration's disregard for the law, and the Epstein files by trying to gin up the idea that the United States is being torn apart by political violence coming from what MAGA figures called “the left,” or “Democrats,” or just “THEM.”

Their evidence was the murder of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk last Wednesday in Utah, although the motive of the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, remains unclear. Today the state of Utah indicted Robinson on seven counts, including aggravated murder. But a 2024 report from a research arm of the Department of Justice itself noted that “ince 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists.” Julia Ornedo of The Daily Beast reported that the Department of Justice removed the report from its website after the shooting.

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Yep, that's a liberal "historian" for you:
1) be wrong about something
2) distract from how wrong you were
3) unless Heather wants to argue Kash and the FBI concocted the text messages - which would be very easy to prove - we absolutely do know who this guy was and why he did it.

(Heather can't admit that, of course, because Heather lives in the world of "liberal good, conservative bad").

The most you'll ever get from this slug is a passing phrase at best, followed by whatever accusations she can make against the regime.

But if you give your column a folksy name you are just the girl next door.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Pickering v Board of Education(1963)

This is the grey area that the Court would cite in upholding a public employee's firing.

Regarding the speech:

• Does it impair discipline by superiors?
• Does it disrupt harmony among coworkers?
  
  
• Does it impede the employee's duties or the department's overall function?
  
  
• Does it harm close working relationships that require personal loyalty

Of course it would upset the harmony of co-workers. In that I'm pretty sure there are MAGAs in every public institution. And they would be upset, even though many times the "offense" was simply repeating the actual words said by the deceased.

I would fully expect the Court (with its 6-3 pro-MAGA majority) to side with the censors.

 

[cdub55]

What kind of hamsters have you got running in your gourd to see a person shot in the throat real time and think, “I’ll claim responsibility for this!”?

Based on the people who usually attended Kirk's talk's, the hamsters were located somewhere else...

 

[colbysullivan]

The Discord leaks are pretty damning

 

[Crimson1967]

Pickering v Board of Education(1963)

This is the grey area that the Court would cite in upholding a public employee's firing.

Regarding the speech:

• Does it impair discipline by superiors?
• Does it disrupt harmony among coworkers?
  
  
• Does it impede the employee's duties or the department's overall function?
  
  
• Does it harm close working relationships that require personal loyalty

Of course it would upset the harmony of co-workers. In that I'm pretty sure there are MAGAs in every public institution. And they would be upset, even though many times the "offense" was simply repeating the actual words said by the deceased.

I would fully expect the Court (with its 6-3 pro-MAGA majority) to side with the censors.

Didn’t MAGA say we should do something with our feelings I can’t say here?

 

[Its On A Slab]

Didn’t MAGA say we should do something with our feelings I can’t say here?

Didn't you get the invitation to the fire sale for those t-shirts?

They all-of-a-sudden have feefings that get hurt when words are spoken that hurt them.

 

[cdub55]

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Freedom of speech and freedom to keep your job are not one in the same. I can tell my boss to kick rocks and shove it where the sun don't shine and I won't get arrested. Being employed at that establishment would more than likely be an issue.