Bama Game Thread: Bama PostGame Thread - Bama vs. OU...

[cthorne22]

I don’t have any issues with what they’ve done with Simpson this year.

Not what we were talking about

 

[editder]

I admit Ty Simpson & our offense had our moments, chances too win this game, buttttt, The Sooner's pretty much manhandled our offense & imposed their will on us on defense choking us out..

Just like against FSU, I thought we simply had bad game planning from the start, with even worse effort against Oklahoma, you simply can't play from behind against a defensive minded HC like Venables..

I may get blasted & thought our coaching staff laid another egg, against another quality opponent & that's becoming a trend under this coaching staff..

We're a one trick pony type of offense..

Actually, they’ve done most of their egg-laying against non-quality opponents.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Ty has had numerous fumbles causing turnovers this year. His turnovers finally LOST the game for us. Like it or not!

I don’t necessarily fault him for the lost fumble. He was beginning his throwing motion, so the ball was in a precarious position.

Yes he should have felt the pressure better, but the OL or a RB failed to pick up the rush, and like I said it wasnt an issue of not holding onto the ball properly because he was into his throwing motion.

 

[teamplayer]

Beating the dead horse but… player had to have been lined up within a yard of the LoS for his jump to have been legal. He was lined up in the gap behind the D-line so even if he jumped without touching anyone it was not legal. Venables seems to have adopted a NASCAR strategy- if you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t trying hard enough, it’s only illegal if you get caught.

Durkin is the same type of guy, and AU will have had three weeks to prep for us. Durkin is auditioning for the full time gig, and we have become a team that can only score in the low to mid 20s. We've needed two absolute miracles to escape with wins down there in 23 and 21, and those Aubie teams were awful. It will be interesting to say the least.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I don’t understand why we were going so slow in the 4th, no need to try and shorten the game when the other team isn’t doing great on offense

Agreed. We got the ball back with like 6min left, and ran the clock out on ourselves, at home, before reaching midfield. It was a deliberate gamble that I did not agree with. Why force yourself to rely on one single 85yd drive.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Ouch

That says it all.

No former player loves Bama as much as Mark Ingram.

Dude is ate up inside with Crimson. He’s the absolute opposite of McElroy.

Yet he said that.

But… well I mean he’s right.

That’s a bit harsh. Greg definitely bleeds Crimson. He just tries not to show it. He has a different role than Mark does. I really don’t get all the hate for Greg.

I mean, here is Greg with his son in a Ty Simpson jersey talking with Ty:

 

[GrayTide]

Deboer needs to find a world class place kicker, punter, at least 1 RB and 5 experienced linemen in the next portal opening. He should also fine replacements for the OL and special teams coaches. I am not sure if we make it to the SECC game or the playoffs. In spite of a much improved defense this is not a NC team. Where we stand right now, we would not beat TAMU, UGA or Ole Miss

 

[tidefan39817]

Well said. Grubb doesn't seem to have any plan. We go take the lead in the second running certain kind of plays. So we get a 1 point lead then he goes to something different, despite the fact OU wasn't stopping what got us the lead in the first place. I don't think he has a plan for any game. It looks like it's just, okay, let's do this, then, okay let's do that. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. He sure didn't seem to have a plan for tonight.

The pick six Ty threw was a direct result of Formby going out right instead of staying in. The fumble, the de lined up in a wide 9 technique. Set up for a speed rush right around Carrol. Not blaming Carrol, he's a freshmen and doesn't have the experience. Coaching man, coaching.we have not had a legitimately good offense line coach since Stoutland...

 

[RammerJammer14]

No it wasn't ALL Ty's fault but that doesn't mean we can't call out the fact he played terribly.

He didn’t play terribly, but it certainly wasn’t his best game. Even though we almost overcame it, pick 6s are killer and extremely difficult to overcome. He has also got to avoid the strip sack fumbles. It’s been one in each of the last 4-5 games. But if he played terribly we wouldn’t have put up 400yds of offense.

This game was lost on turnovers and horrible ST play.

 

[92tide]

Michael Carroll is one of the OL'man he brought in and he's already getting playing time as a freshman. For a freshman he's done very well. He's going to be a good one.

he damn near ran down the dude that got the pick 6. that was some impressive hustle

 

[92tide]

He didn’t play terribly, but it certainly wasn’t his best game. Even though we almost overcame it, pick 6s are killer and extremely difficult to overcome. He has also got to avoid the strip sack fumbles. It’s been one in each of the last 4-5 games. But if he played terribly we wouldn’t have put up 400yds of offense.

This game was lost on turnovers

seemed like we had folks open most of the night.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

he damn near ran down the dude that got the pick 6. that was some impressive hustle

Yeah, he's athletic and I think he's "the type" DeBoer is recruiting. We're just going to have to play with what we've got this season and hope this offseason and another recruiting class starts to fix things.

 

[editder]

Beating the dead horse but… player had to have been lined up within a yard of the LoS for his jump to have been legal. He was lined up in the gap behind the D-line so even if he jumped without touching anyone it was not legal. Venables seems to have adopted a NASCAR strategy- if you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t trying hard enough, it’s only illegal if you get caught.

Yeah, that guy has some serious character and psychological issues.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

That’s a bit harsh. Greg definitely bleeds Crimson. He just tries not to show it. He has a different role than Mark does. I really don’t get all the hate for Greg.

I mean, here is Greg with his son in a Ty Simpson jersey talking with Ty:

What I meant was Greg goes out of his way to come off as objective to a ridiculous degree.

He can be as obnoxious as Gary Danielson at times because of it.

Mark does not care if he comes off as biased one bit.

He goes out of his way to heap praise all over Bama teams and players to also an almost comical degree.

So for HIM to actually make that comment on social media tells you just how disgusted he was with that type of play vs OU because it was honestly just a putrid performance by anyone not associated with the Defense.

 

[92tide]

Ouch

That says it all.

No former player loves Bama as much as Mark Ingram.

Dude is ate up inside with Crimson. He’s the absolute opposite of McElroy.

Yet he said that.

But… well I mean he’s right.

he is right. and he and his teammates lived it in 2010

 

[RammerJammer14]

So after sleeping on this game here are my thoughts:

While disappointing, this isn’t anywhere close to the end of the season or any of our championship goals. Reminded me of the back to back years we lost to Ole Miss in ‘14 and ‘15. Dominated every stat but turnovers and the scoreboard and just couldn’t get out of our own way. And just like Freeze, I despise Venables and the way he coaches.

There were some headscratching plays and decisions for sure- why did we run the clock out on ourselves outside of scoring range? What was that last 4th down play, (I was hoping for something to Cuevas but that looked like a single read low probability play to me)? And turnovers are bad enough, but turnovers inside your own 30 and for dancing around on a punt catch- a simple change of posession- are absolutely killer. Our kicker can’t be trusted beyond 30yds, and sometimes not even inside that.

We’ve been on the struggle bus since Tenn and it finally caught up to us. But some positives- I don’t know what the pure rushing totals were (ie minus sack yardage) but it seems to me that Hill has definitely broken out as our best back- I think if we keep feeding him over Jam it will help our ground game a lot. As long as we win the next two we are still most likely playing for the SECC and in the playoffs. And hey, we might have a home playoff game! I think the key to bouncing back here is Williams and especially Ty not getting in their own heads, forgiving themselves, and staying positive. If we play as a team, 11 at a time, we just might still be champions. Ok, plagerism over, I still love this year’s team, RTR!

 

[RammerJammer14]

What I meant was Greg goes out of his way to come off as objective to a ridiculous degree.

He can be as obnoxious as Gary Danielson at times because of it.

Mark does not care if he comes off as biased one bit.

He goes out of his way to heap praise all over Bama teams and players to also an almost comical degree.

So for HIM to actually make that comment on social media tells you just how disgusted he was with that type of play vs OU because it was honestly just a putrid performance by anyone not associated with the Defense.

Yeah I’ve seen a couple of y’all say that but I just don’t think it’s that bad/real and he doesn’t bother me at all. He is no where near Gary Danielson levels. He praises bama too, yall just ignore it. There is a reason ESPN has him calling what they think is the #2 game of the weekend. Mark Ingram doesn’t call games live.

 

[SMOKIESBAMAFAN]

Is it me, or did the OU DB hit Horton with the ball in the air on Ty’s interception??

 

[AlexanderFan]

Not what we were talking about

You were talking about Lane being a good quarterback coach. The guys we have here seem to be doing a good job with our quarterbacks as well.

 

[editder]

Michael Carroll is one of the OL'man he brought in and he's already getting playing time as a freshman. For a freshman he's done very well. He's going to be a good one.

I agree with you about Carroll. My point is that he and Deboer’s other OL recruits and most portal acquisitions have the same body type as most of the players he inherited. Proctor and Brailsford are the only outliers. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you meant.