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When Aubie tells me I am a T-shirt fan I just smile :smile:and tell them that Alabama fans get to pick our shirts and our team but the only Auburn fans are those Alums who have to be for Auburn because they have no choice, seeing as how they went to school there.

When Aubie tells me we only have a handful of real titles I just laugh :smile:and tell them when you are as powerful as Bama is you can claim as many titles as you want, and no one, event he NCAA can stop us.

The laughter really get to them because they are trying to put a frown on my face :smile:

Both of awbie's titles stink badly...

1957 was won by a team that was on probation and stocked with the very players that they were put on probation for recruiting by illegal means.

2010, as we all know, was won using professional player(s).

Aubies are extremely jealous and hate the fact that they will NEVER supplant Bama as the premiere program in our state or conference...and I love it! :cool2:
 
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And I still contend that Bama had a legitimate claim for the 1977 season. But the media's darling, ND, was able to leap from #5 to #1 over a #3 Bama after No's 1 & 2 bit the dust (granted, IIRC, ND did beat No1 Texas)

1977 is one that chaps me as well. Alabama lost to a 9-3 Nebraska team in Lincoln after throwing 5 interceptions the second game of the season. We then went on to run the table in the SEC and throttled Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl. (We were #3 going into the bowls). Notre Dame was upset by Ole Miss the second of the season (20-13), was #5, and a beat a somewhat suspect #1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl.

Oklahoma was #2 and got whipped by a Arkansas team (coached by Lou Holtz) which started back up running backs due to suspensions. It seemed only logical that #3 Alabama should move to #1 in both polls. But the Irish, being the national and media darling, got the nod.

This one, and 1966, are the two we should have had that never were realized.
 
About 8-9 years ago I purchased an NCAA record book FROM THE nccaa.com website.

It had us listed IN BLACK and WHITE as National Champions (along with other schools) as National Champs in 1966, 1977, 1945, and 1963

But we don't claim them. As all the folks here have explained from 1869-1998??? multiple RECOGNIZED organizations awarded NC's. Ole Miss claims 1959, 60, and 62.

Interestingly, the official NCAA record book lists Princeton, Yale, as having about 15 each from the 1800's. It's definitely a crazy thing.

What I'm most proud about a s a Bama fan, is ALABAMA is the only school to win Championships in the pre poll era, the poll era, the BCS, and now the playoff era. THAT is impressive
 
Might not be technically 16, but it's a lot. And generally, a bunch more than any other school.

Welcome to the board.

I'm "only" 38 and they've won 7 in my lifetime. Not too shabby.
 
Aw heck, I enjoy the discussion so I will chime in. It seems even some of our own fans are willing to give a little when it comes to the pre-AP poll championships of 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934. I do not, however, and I will try to explain why. Each one of those seasons were undefeated campaigns that ended with Rose Bowl victories, and in the case of 1926, a Rose Bowl tie with also undefeated Stanford. Before the mid 1930s, the Rose Bowl as the only bowl game, and while it wasn't a true National Title/Super Bowl type game, it was a game that tried to pit the very best from the West vs. the very best from the East. And in those days, Southern football was regarded about like the Sun Belt is regarded today. When Alabama went west to play Washington after the 1925 season, despite the fact that we'd given up 7 points all year, the media was giving Alabama absolutely no chance to win. They considered it laughable that we were even invited. Yet we upset them 20-19, after trailing at halftime 12-0. We literally put Southern football on the map that day. It was the same story the next year when we traveled to face Stanford. We played them to a tie, seems like it was 7-7. By 1930, folks began to give Wallace Wade and Alabama a little more respect, yet we were still underdogs to Washington State in that game. We destroyed them. By 1934, the dye was cast and no one was surprised that Dixie Howell, Don Hutson, and Paul W. Bryant led Alabama to a Rose Bowl win over Stanford.

Those 4 games literally established the South as a true football hotbed to be respected. So I choose not to give any ground when discussing these seasons. They are legit championships, and there are reasons beyond any polls or ratings systems to celebrate them as such. I don't care about 1941. I don't care that we claim it, and I wouldn't care if we stopped claiming it today. 1961 and beyond are utterly without debate, and I laugh at any rival fan who would engage in such a discussion.

Roll Tide
 
It would be funny to just get rid of 1941 in an era of other teams claiming more titles.

But I don't see up ripping up commemorative plaques around campus just to quiet the internet trolls.
 
1941 is here to stay. UA isn't going to bow to haters when schools like Ole Miss are magicking post-major poll era titles into existence.
 
Count it however you want - it's still more than anyone else.

Start with the AP in 1936.

Start with the bowl games included in 1974 (note: also 1965 was a one-year trial)

Start with the consensus and undisputed titles via the Bowl Alliance in 1992

Start with the BCS

It's still more than you have no matter who is making the objection.

The only exception? The playoff is tied at one with Ohio State - but even they aren't going to give up their previous titles and shouldn't.
 
This is my first post as a new member. I was registered before, but had to re-register due to some problems. With that said, I have a question for my fellow tide fans.

Bama claims 16 titles. Most are legitimate, but a few are questionable at best. 1941 jumps out. So how many titles can we claim without making a defense for them. And before it comes out, I understand about 1966.

Roll Tide and here is to making it 17!!!

How about 1945? Was there bias for Army? We deserved it as much as Army.
 
The only ones i think about are the ones i experienced as a fan-
92,09,11,12,15


Those old championships that pre date the Bryant era were under different systems and a lot of current Alabama fans weren't even born yet.

The correct answer if someone ask how many championships Bama has is- "more than your school" and thats true if we count 1941 or not.

I think about the ones under Wade, Thomas, Bryant, Stallings, and Saban!
 
I don't know but certainly.. are you going to deny the team that represented the folks that just saved the entire world?

But are you going to deny The Team that represented ALABAMA and the people who lived in Paradise at that time? Maybe they should have let that other team go to the Rose Bowl to play USCw.
 
But are you going to deny The Team that represented ALABAMA and the people who lived in Paradise at that time? Maybe they should have let that other team go to the Rose Bowl to play USCw.

If I'm not mistaken, Army abstained from bowl games in those days, or they would have assuredly been invited instead of Alabama.
 
I think the arguments about the pre-bowl final polls are so dumb. So it was alright for Notre Dame and the Armed Service Academies to abstain from bowl invites and take their championship to the house and it only changed after those schools started playing in bowls...no argument over their titles. But it is a problem for Alabama to lose a bowl during a national title season when all the polls said that bowls did not matter?

This is only stuff low functioning haters could come up with...
 
I am glad, and the site is too, that I am not a mod at this point.

Ask a question and face the firing squad. :rolleye2:

Are you that paranoid?

I personally enjoyed reading all of the replies that had great information and discussion.

Are you going to label me too?
 
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