And now Jonathan Taylor....again

[2003TIDE]

Hindsight is 20/20. If he would have been a superstar for us, the same people saying how they never wanted him here would be saying how great of a pickup he was.

Anyway he's gone and needs help that he wasn't going to get by playing football for UA in the first place.

 

[CullmanTide]

Hindsight is 20/20. If he would have been a superstar for us, the same people saying how they never wanted him here would be saying how great of a pickup he was.

Anyway he's gone and needs help that he wasn't going to get by playing football for UA in the first place.

You can't say that. We have another on the team that was given a second chance many here did not want, myself included. He has done well but I haven't changed my mind.

 

[2003TIDE]

You can't say that. .

I just did.

 

[CullmanTide]

I just did.

Doesn't make it true.

 

[teamplayer]

I agree you can't save them all, but how does Saban know which ones will make the most of a 2nd chance?

Unfortunately, it always seems to be the four and five star players who "deserve" the second chance.

 

[major tidefan]

Hindsight is 20/20. If he would have been a superstar for us, the same people saying how they never wanted him here would be saying how great of a pickup he was.

Nope.

 

[teamplayer]

Hindsight is 20/20. If he would have been a superstar for us, the same people saying how they never wanted him here would be saying how great of a pickup he was.

Anyway he's gone and needs help that he wasn't going to get by playing football for UA in the first place.

You may be correct for some, but I would not be one of them. Winning means nothing to me if morals and integrity are compromised...LK...cough, cough. Anyway, it is nice when people make the most of second chances, but some people never learn. However, our society teaches people that if you are talented enough, it doesn't really matter how you behave, which is really a shame.

 

[AUDub]

We really dodged a bullet with this guy.

 

[CullmanTide]

You may be correct for some, but I would not be one of them. Winning means nothing to me if morals and integrity are compromised...LK...cough, cough. Anyway, it is nice when people make the most of second chances, but some people never learn. However, our society teaches people that if you are talented enough, it doesn't really matter how you behave, which is really a shame.

Thank you.

 

[ReturnToGlory]

The only good thing is this happened before he ever played a down for us. I agree with the others that this was wrong decision to take him in.

 

[CrimsonForce]

There were 10 other schools (mostly SEC and ACC) who would have signed him if we didn't. He signed with us and we gave him a second chance and he blew it. As long as Alabama dismiss him from the program and university I don't see this as a big deal. People will talk about it for a couple of days and then it will be over with..

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Hindsight is 20/20. If he would have been a superstar for us, the same people saying how they never wanted him here would be saying how great of a pickup he was.

Anyway he's gone and needs help that he wasn't going to get by playing football for UA in the first place.

search my posts I was very clear in my displeasure with his signing.

 

[dWarriors88]

I find it extremely difficult to pass judgement. I hope he can sort his life out and learn to prioritize what is and isn't important.

 

[bamagradinATL]

The latest is he has been referred to Judicial Affairs, which I assume is the first step to his dismissal from the University.

 

[GrayTide]

Hindsight is 20/20. If he would have been a superstar for us, the same people saying how they never wanted him here would be saying how great of a pickup he was.

Anyway he's gone and needs help that he wasn't going to get by playing football for UA in the first place.

Wrong. Pat Dye said hindsight was 50/50. :wink:

 

[TideMom2Boys]

I don't blame Saban..he thought he could change. Well he didn't and now this is where Saban needs to make the right decision and kick him off the team.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

DJ Pettway seems to have made the most of his second chance. Still, I thought at the time his second chance would be better delivered at another school. Some on TF agreed. Some didn't.

Barring new exculpatory information (which I don't expect), Taylor has blown his second chance. He has to be gone immediately.

Which brings us to how to handle these things going forward. Is a 50% success rate -- which assumes Pettway keeping himself clean for another year -- enough to continue the policy?

My own thought would be not for off-field violence. For drugs and alcohol, I'd say yes.

As far as Geno Smith's second DUI, that looks like a medical problem. And yes, it could have ended with an innocent person being hurt. But results matter, and it didn't.

We punish reckless driving to a lesser degree than we do vehicular manslaughter because of the difference in outcome. But there is no difference in the behavior itself, only the result.

 

[CrimSonami]

Is there a "VENT" page on this sight for those of us who wish to do so?!?!?

DANG IT!!!

 

[bamacpa]

His dismissal seems to be official now.

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/03/alabama_dismisses_defensive_ta.html#incart_river

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I didn't know the full story (I pay no attention to recruiting), so I'll just say while it's easy for me to say, I wouldn't have let him come here knowing what I know now. That said, he's gone and here's hoping it gets his attention (but I fear it won't).