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TiderFromTenn said:
Isn't this the same type of comments made when CMS was hired. I recall many saying of his hiring that it presented an opportunity for the program to grow under a new, younger coach...and vice versa. Don't want to spoil the parade as I just excited about CMA's hire and the thought of what he can achieve with our caliber of players and future recruits, but the don't forget that CMS ran the O just as much as CMA will get to. That is if he does get the OC title initially.
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Try comparing and contrasting Shula's offense at Tampa Bay and Major Applewhite's offense at Rice if you have yet to find a huge difference in coaching philosophies and their results.
 
T&T (w/o disrespect),

Ok, and I quote..."as offensive coordinator...the Bucs qualified for the playoffs in two of Shula’s four seasons and in 1999 won the NFC Central Division and reached the NFC Championship game."

Now for the Rice Owls 2006 season (the only season w/ CMA as OC), get ready:

Houston (Home): L 30-31
UCLA (Away): L 16-26
Texas (Neutral Field): L 7-52
FSU (Away): L 7-55
Army (Away): W 48-14
Tulane (Away): L 24-38
UAB (Home): W 34-33
UCF (Away): W 40-29
UTEP (Away): W 37-31
Tulsa (Away): W 41-38 (2OT)
East Carolina (Home): Won 18-17
SMU (Home): W 31-27

NEW ORLEANS BOWL @New Orleans, LA
Troy: L 17-41

Avg margin of victory: 5.71 pts
Avg margin of loss: 28.2 pts

Plus, look at the quality of team Rice beat. Now that the comparisons have been made, you should understand my intent was not to compare coaching styles or philosophies. It was just a reminder that sometimes, as highlighted by CMS's hiring, that "young coach enthusiasm" can sometimes overshadow reality and set us fans up for a major let down complete with complaining about hiring such a young coach in the first place. Sorry, that is the truth and I am a realistic.
 
TiderFromTenn, I think you need to stop and realize where Major was coaching at last year. He was part of a staff that took Rice to their first bowl game in many many years (I'm sure someone has already posted the exact # of years). Rice is not a powerhouse of college football or even a middle of the pack program in college football (no offense to Rice fans or anything). I think what he accomplished there especially given his level of experience and the level of talent he had to work with there was outstanding. You may not feel the same way and that's fine, but forgive the rest of us if we believe CNS's opinion of his abilities instead of yours.
 
I dont know how all Alabama fans feel but I am tired of watching the same ole offense year after year. I mean lets look at the facts, if we would have had any type of offensive performance in the last 2 seasons we would have probably went undefeated last year and probably wouldn't have lost over 3 this year. I'm glad to see a young, creative mind come in. I havent seen anything creative in Alabama as long as I can remember even in 92 it was all defense. I cant wait to see the changes. ROLL TIDE:BigA:
 
Never mind you guys...you are just completely missing my main point. Yes, I know the mighty Rice Owls are not a power house nor play an SEC style schedule. But again, that is not my point. Moving on to other posts.
 
TiderFromTenn said:
T&T (w/o disrespect),

Ok, and I quote..."as offensive coordinator...the Bucs qualified for the playoffs in two of Shula’s four seasons and in 1999 won the NFC Central Division and reached the NFC Championship game."

Now for the Rice Owls 2006 season (the only season w/ CMA as OC), get ready:

Houston (Home): L 30-31
UCLA (Away): L 16-26
Texas (Neutral Field): L 7-52
FSU (Away): L 7-55
Army (Away): W 48-14
Tulane (Away): L 24-38
UAB (Home): W 34-33
UCF (Away): W 40-29
UTEP (Away): W 37-31
Tulsa (Away): W 41-38 (2OT)
East Carolina (Home): Won 18-17
SMU (Home): W 31-27

NEW ORLEANS BOWL @New Orleans, LA
Troy: L 17-41

Avg margin of victory: 5.71 pts
Avg margin of loss: 28.2 pts

Plus, look at the quality of team Rice beat. Now that the comparisons have been made, you should understand my intent was not to compare coaching styles or philosophies. It was just a reminder that sometimes, as highlighted by CMS's hiring, that "young coach enthusiasm" can sometimes overshadow reality and set us fans up for a major let down complete with complaining about hiring such a young coach in the first place. Sorry, that is the truth and I am a realistic.
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you are missing the real statistic here man. Only look at offensive numbers, as he was an offensive coordinator... he had absolutely nothing to do with the defensive misgivings of FSU, Troy, and Texas. And just to be fair i will throw out teams with severe defensive talent advantages. Texas, and FSU. thats fair right? there isnt a team in the country that mismatches us like that.

that leaves Rice averaging 30.55 points per game against teams with similar talent. (notice that im stretching so far as to say that UCLA has similar talent to RICE.... The same UCLA defense that held USC to 9 points and no touchdowns). If we could do that well against teams with similar talent we would be as dominant as USC has been in recent years.

He even put up 41 to beat Tulsa. The same Tulsa whos up-and-coming coach was considered to be one of the best in america,was in consideration to be the coach here and is now the coach at Louisville... Steve Kragthorpe.

I realize that it is much more difficult to "outcoach" the quality coaches in the SEC, but the evidence makes a compelling argument that coach Applewhite is well deserving of a shot here at the Capstone.
 
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wisten said:
It's not about the past but how well the team and coaches mesh with the philosophy of the future. I expect next year to be mediocre, then explode past then.
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Shoot low Sheriff, they're riding shetlands! :biggrin2:

I think this team will do better next than most think. I'm predicting 10 wins.
 
MikeUT00 said:
Hook 'em and Roll Tide indeed! Congrats y'all. I'm very happy for 'Bama. Y'all are getting a GREAT young coach. Next season should be a lot of fun!
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I firmly believe that if Applewhite continues to be a shooting star that he'll be Mack Brown's successor at UT, if he doesn't succeed Saban first.

What helps Applewhite with players is that very few thought highly of him as a talent, but all he ever did was perform on the field Mistakes didn't rattle him and he'd just get right back up and bring UT back. Look at how many are questioning him coaching at Bama already and he's only a co-coordinator/QB coach. LOL!
 
TiderFromTenn said:
T&T (w/o disrespect),

Ok, and I quote..."as offensive coordinator...the Bucs qualified for the playoffs in two of Shula’s four seasons and in 1999 won the NFC Central Division and reached the NFC Championship game."

Now for the Rice Owls 2006 season (the only season w/ CMA as OC), get ready:

Houston (Home): L 30-31
UCLA (Away): L 16-26
Texas (Neutral Field): L 7-52
FSU (Away): L 7-55
Army (Away): W 48-14
Tulane (Away): L 24-38
UAB (Home): W 34-33
UCF (Away): W 40-29
UTEP (Away): W 37-31
Tulsa (Away): W 41-38 (2OT)
East Carolina (Home): Won 18-17
SMU (Home): W 31-27

NEW ORLEANS BOWL @New Orleans, LA
Troy: L 17-41

Avg margin of victory: 5.71 pts
Avg margin of loss: 28.2 pts

Plus, look at the quality of team Rice beat. Now that the comparisons have been made, you should understand my intent was not to compare coaching styles or philosophies. It was just a reminder that sometimes, as highlighted by CMS's hiring, that "young coach enthusiasm" can sometimes overshadow reality and set us fans up for a major let down complete with complaining about hiring such a young coach in the first place. Sorry, that is the truth and I am a realistic.
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The big difference in MA and MS is that CNS wants MA. Thats enough for me.
 
I wonder how much of Applewhite's philosophy will be allowed into the offense and how it is run? Saban's history shows he runs a traditional pro style offense. Applewhite runs more of a spread. The hire intrigues me because it appears Saban might be "adjusting" the offense he used to stick with in college but recognizes that the game from an offensive stand point has changed a bit. This hire really does intrigue me.
 
NOSty said:
Shoot low Sheriff, they're riding shetlands! :biggrin2:

I think this team will do better next than most think. I'm predicting 10 wins.
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The key factor will be strength and conditioning. The 2006 Bama offense (some one check me please) was one of the top five offenses in the country at getting into the red zone. But as we know our lack of strength and intensity kept us from punching in a lot of td's.

I firmly believe if CNS can get these guys in shape and instill a little "attitude" in them we'll be a top the SEC West at year's end.
 
Folks, if coach Saban had kept every assistant that coach Shula had, I would be very optimistic for next season. What if we would of had coach Saban back 2 seasons ago? Probably would have gone undefeated. What about this past season? Probably would have won 10 games and everyone would be picking us as a contender for the upcoming season. I bet nobody here would be complaining.

But alas we have what we have, a new head coach and a slew of new assistants. So lets second guess them all before a game has even played. Applewhite is to young and his offense won't work in the SEC. Yeah right! Who the hell knows? Thats why I'm looking forward to next season so all our fears can be answered. I think we will win 10 though.:biggrin2:
 
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