Bama Coordinator Search Thread

[theballguy]

We always have an available analyst job for the right guy. Always.

Saban gets very little credit for thinking outside the box.

In my opinion he is the most innovative coach overall in the game today. Sure spread offenses and RPO's were all the rage for a bit and fun to watch but even those have limited return. They'll eventually be a footnote in the history of the sport. Saban is maybe not a genius necessarily with X's and O's. He is definitely competent when it comes to that but I think he knows enough about X's and O's to know that execution means more.

So, there are a lot of things that go into execution. Getting the right players, conditioning them, helping them cultivate the right mental attitudes they need to be winners and getting the right coaches to help him with all that. He understands that he *cannot* do everything and be everywhere. He's a control freak on his program but not a control freak on individual coaches and players.

It seems he probably starting thinking about "analysts" when he saw his coaches going off to other programs. You can influence coaches to go when the time and destination is right like he did for Kirby but ultimately, he knows he has to let them go. Of course, he had to be wondering around 2011, 2012, 2013 how does he handle the exodus of coaches that will surely come?

His analyst idea is brilliant. Not only does he have a pipeline of players but he also has a pipeline of coaches. I would not be surprised to hear of other coaches in the future doing the same thing. Everyone copied the medical tent idea (not sure if this was Saban's or not) and I'm sure they will do the same with his analysts hiring concept. A lot of people like to talk about half-jokingly how he has ruined college football but you can't deny he has improved it and will be recognized by all as an innovator of the game.

 

[Con]

If we use Freeze as an analyst we won’t have to defend his offense at another school could be one way to look at it.


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[westide]

Lane was never on staff prior to being named OC. Saban brought him in for consulting prior to the Oklahoma game after the 2013 season.

Sark was hired right as there was some talk LSU might hire him to be OC, so he was moved to an analyst role with the intention of a smooth transition from Kiffin when Lane departed.

We always have an available analyst job for the right guy. Always.

CNS will take some heat if he hires Freeze. Some coaches would not do it for that reason. CNS has shown courage in the past with the hiring of coaches and also with giving players second chances. I think most would agree that Freeze would do an excellent job as a offensive coordinator.

 

[WylieTexasTider]

Locksley's collegiate career as a playcaller is pretty bad. He's been an OC in a spread-option system (Illinois) and a pro-style system (Maryland). At both stops, his teams were consistently among the bottom in offensive output, turnover margin and passing efficency

His offense at Illinois in 2008 was pretty comparable to what we put up this year from a ranking standpoint. I think we can all agree the talent level at Alabama is night and day better than what he had at Illinois.

Scoring Total. Rushing. Passing.
Illinois 15. 19. 13. 91

BAMA. 40. 19. 38. 20

Again, he will have better talent across the board. I personally do not see the love fest with Chip Long. Yes, he had nice passing numbers at Memphis. However, that is a conference in which most teams are dumpster fires on defense. His 1 game vs an SEC school in 2016 his QB threw 3 INT’s and has a total of 4 turnovers. At ND this year his passing offense was worse than ours. His QB was not a worse passer than Jalen. Not saying I want Locksley but, I feel he has shown to be as good a coordinator as Long and a better recruiter.

 

[WylieTexasTider]

$50k/year is peanuts to Alabama football.

Is the analyst restricted to $50K? Was thinking we can pay whatever we want as they are not a GA. I was thinking Sark was getting closer to $75K.

 

[bigjue24]

Goodness, not to high-speed rail this one to NS, but how one earth do you know what the man has repented of or not?

You know what, don't answer it - I'm not sure you're in the right state of mind to not cross the line on this one.

That said, I'll step back and let all you sinless people start casting stones.

SMH

I tend to agree with this. I'm not huge on Freeze coming in just because of the NCAA attention it can bring about as well as media coverage, but I can't say what the man has done in his heart as it relates to God. We all know people that have done awful things, and many have turned their lives around. I don't know if Freeze has truly done this, but I do know I can't know how he has changed in his heart and mind as a result of this stuff. I do think an analyst position is more likely for him.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Is the analyst restricted to $50K? Was thinking we can pay whatever we want as they are not a GA. I was thinking Sark was getting closer to $75K.

No, just threw that figure out there - iirc analysts pay is all over the place, but it's peanuts to a football program that regularly profits in the tens of millions.

 

[BamaMoon]

But they can help game plan.

Of course! I thought the suggestion about keeping Locksley in the press box was that he could communicate with Freeze DURING the game.

 

[TD7]

His offense at Illinois in 2008 was pretty comparable to what we put up this year from a ranking standpoint. I think we can all agree the talent level at Alabama is night and day better than what he had at Illinois.

Scoring Total. Rushing. Passing.
Illinois 15. 19. 13. 91

BAMA. 40. 19. 38. 20

Again, he will have better talent across the board. I personally do not see the love fest with Chip Long. Yes, he had nice passing numbers at Memphis. However, that is a conference in which most teams are dumpster fires on defense. His 1 game vs an SEC school in 2016 his QB threw 3 INT’s and has a total of 4 turnovers. At ND this year his passing offense was worse than ours. His QB was not a worse passer than Jalen. Not saying I want Locksley but, I feel he has shown to be as good a coordinator as Long and a better recruiter.

I think that is JessN's point. And if I recall correctly he had some pretty good players on that Illinois team such as Rashard Mendenhall and Aurelius Benn? Mike Locksley is a good position coach and recruiter, but I'm not sure how great of a offensive coordinator he is.

 

[WylieTexasTider]

No, just threw that figure out there - iirc analysts pay is all over the place, but it's peanuts to a football program that regularly profits in the tens of millions.

I can see Saban possibly hiring Locksley as OC with Freeze as an analyst making $200K helping Locksley create/develop the offensive game plans week to week.

 

[Tiderollin32]

I can see Saban possibly hiring Locksley as OC with Freeze as an analyst making $200K helping Locksley create/develop the offensive game plans week to week.

That sounds very clever! Both would win. Locksley gets promoted, eventually as a head coach and then maybe by then Hugh is either promoted by us or another program, after he has helped us to another few championships. 😉

 

[WylieTexasTider]

I think that is JessN's point. And if I recall correctly he had some pretty good players on that Illinois team such as Rashard Mendenhall and Aurelius Benn? Mike Locksley is a good position coach and recruiter, but I'm not sure how great of a offensive coordinator he is.

He had some talent at Illinois in 2007-2008 but I’d argue position by position he would have more talent at BAMA next year. If he had the #13 rushing attack, 15 scoring offense and 19 in total offense, no doubt he would be top 5 in rushing and top 10 in total offense and scoring offense.

 

[CrimsonTheory]

If Bama signs Freeze, then most likely he's gone after next season depending on how well the offense looks. If you ask me, I would prefer to go after an OC who should be here for a few years. I would like for some stability at the OC position.

 

[Crimson1967]

Freeze's issues with the NCAA would concern me if he were hired. I'm not his wife, so the issue of calling hookers isn't that big of a problem for me. We just had Joey Freshwater as OC. I'm sure if you opened the closets of every staff member, you'd find a skeleton or two.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Freeze's issues with the NCAA would concern me if he were hired. I'm not his wife, so the issue of calling hookers isn't that big of a problem for me. We just had Joey Freshwater as OC. I'm sure if you opened the closets of every staff member, you'd find a skeleton or two.

True. I was just thinking of one, with us a couple of times, who had to exit T-town post haste...

 

[Special K]

True. I was just thinking of one, with us a couple of times, who had to exit T-town post haste...

Sir Lancelot?

 

[Bama-94-00]

I'd only bring Freeze in as an Offense analyst.

 

[BamaInBham]

He had some talent at Illinois in 2007-2008 but I’d argue position by position he would have more talent at BAMA next year. If he had the #13 rushing attack, 15 scoring offense and 19 in total offense, no doubt he would be top 5 in rushing and top 10 in total offense and scoring offense.

I posted the rankings of all 8 years somewhere, but I will spare you, except to say his Total O in 2008 was 18 and '07 was 33. His other 6 offenses were all in the bottom half of the nation with 2 of his 4 at Maryland 100+ out of 125-128. According to some he ran an RPO type O at Illinois - he had Juice Williams, Benn and Mendenhall. At Maryland he ran a Pro style O, where his numbers were much worse. Zook was HC at Illinois, Edsall at Maryland.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

If Bama signs Freeze, then most likely he's gone after next season depending on how well the offense looks. If you ask me, I would prefer to go after an OC who should be here for a few years. I would like for some stability at the OC position.

That's harder and harder to do. Saban asks that they sign a two-year commitment and Daboll buys out of it, or the Bills do it for him...

 

[CoolBreeze]

If Bama signs Freeze, then most likely he's gone after next season depending on how well the offense looks. If you ask me, I would prefer to go after an OC who should be here for a few years. I would like for some stability at the OC position.

Meh, not really a concern for me. As long as Nick Saban is our coach I really couldn't care less who's working for him because he is the MAN that will get it done.