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crimsonman38 said:
I know I am going to get flamed for this comment, or it may even get deleted. Here goes:

I really, really like the Locksley hire. First off it will definitely set well in 85% of the recruits home. Okay I know you guys are thinking why is that. Well this is Coach Saban's first hire of a black coordinator since he has been with us. I know you guys will flame this, but even though it is 2018 there is african american parents that still looks at that. Me being an an African American from the state of Alabama I still here Auburn fans that say this. You guys will see a big difference it will make in the area of recruiting.

By no means am I saying that this is the only reason Coach Saban will make this hire. Please don't think that
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Thanks for this post. It's a good point and something I hadn't thought of. I bet you're right and that this has an impact with recruiting.

Also, I had not realized that Saban had never had a black coordinator. Something I guess I have the luxury not to realize.
 
rgw said:
Bobby Williams was a special teams coordinator but I don't think Davis, Ansley, or Tucker were coordinators and if they were then it wasn't as the playcaller.

Being the playcalling OC and DC is a big spotlight position at a program like this one. I do think there is a certain amount of significance to Locksley's hire in that regard. I don't think it was a part of Saban's decision making process but it is meaningful.
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I agree with this. I think CNS strives to put the right person in the right position. That can be on the field or on the coaching staff, but it does say something to minority recruits to see that the head coach doesn't care about race, but that it is all about ability. CNS has displayed that all over the field with players, and with assistants. Locksley as OC just cements this further. It's a new level having put a minority in the OC spot. I'm super pumped for Locksley. He is walking into a great situation. He is going to have the talent to run any play you can imagine. Great RB's, check, Mobile QB, check, QB with a rocket arm, check, WR's all over the roster that are game breakers, check. It's like a kid in a candy store.
 
I would think parents could tell CNS doesn’t care about race by looking at the players on the field and his staff.

Still, it may be a valid point with some parents.

So someday race will be a non-issue for everyone. None of us will live to see it. It’s a non-issue for me now.
 
I think others have mentioned this, but with the OC position having been a revolving door the past 8+ seasons, I really hope CML (assuming he gets the job) can provide some stability to the position for the next few years. Although it comes with the territory of the team being so successful, it is frustrating to continually be in this position every couple of seasons.

Regardless, the talent he'll have to work with next year is going to be fun to watch. Just as long as he is committed to running the ball (with RBs) :cool:
 
Bamabuzzard said:
This is going to be like watching people playing "hot potato" with a stick of dynamite in the backseat of a Civic.
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:) Good visual here...I reckon if they're playing with dynamite in the back of a Civic, it won't matter who's left holding it
 
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Looking at recruiting I see no evidence of race of the Head Coach or coordinators being a factor. Look at the top of the recruiting every year. White head coach, white coordinators majority of the players black. It may play a small role in getting you in the door but its guys like Coach Saban that can genuinely relate to players that eventually get the signature. This seems to be the case in Basketball also. Coach K and Coach Cal year in and year out dominate a majority black prospect sport. Coach Saban is as color blind as they come. Maybe in and era gone you could have said Alabama would pass on a qualified black coach for a less qualified white coach but those days are long gone. Auburn fans would say Alabama would never legitimately play a black QB until Coach Saban killed that non sense. Not shooting anyone down but be sure if Coach Locksley gets the job it will be because he earned it not because of his race. Saying anything else would be a disservice to Coach Locksley and Alabama under Coach Saban.
 
Mystical said:
Looking at recruiting I see no evidence of race of the Head Coach or coordinators being a factor. Look at the top of the recruiting every year. White head coach, white coordinators majority of the players black. It may play a small role in getting you in the door but its guys like Coach Saban that can genuinely relate to players that eventually get the signature. This seems to be the case in Basketball also. Coach K and Coach Cal year in and year out dominate a majority black prospect sport. Coach Saban is as color blind as they come. Maybe in and era gone you could have said Alabama would pass on a qualified black coach for a less qualified white coach but those days are long gone. Auburn fans would say Alabama would never legitimately play a black QB until Coach Saban killed that non sense. Not shooting anyone down but be sure if Coach Locksley gets the job it will be because he earned it not because of his race. Saying anything else would be a disservice to Coach Locksley and Alabama under Coach Saban.
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We have to be careful because the original poster made it a point NOT to say that. He or she was just pointing out that race could influence the way recruits respond to coaches.

Obviously we've had the #1 recruiting class in the nation for 7 years straight so it hasn't hurt us not to have coordinators of varying ethnicities but I can certainly empathize with that POV.
 
Mystical said:
Looking at recruiting I see no evidence of race of the Head Coach or coordinators being a factor. Look at the top of the recruiting every year. White head coach, white coordinators majority of the players black. It may play a small role in getting you in the door but its guys like Coach Saban that can genuinely relate to players that eventually get the signature. This seems to be the case in Basketball also. Coach K and Coach Cal year in and year out dominate a majority black prospect sport. Coach Saban is as color blind as they come. Maybe in and era gone you could have said Alabama would pass on a qualified black coach for a less qualified white coach but those days are long gone. Auburn fans would say Alabama would never legitimately play a black QB until Coach Saban killed that non sense. Not shooting anyone down but be sure if Coach Locksley gets the job it will be because he earned it not because of his race. Saying anything else would be a disservice to Coach Locksley and Alabama under Coach Saban.
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Walter Lewis, Vince Sutton, and Andrew Zow say hello.
 
Intl.Aperture said:
We have to be careful because the original poster made it a point NOT to say that. He or she was just pointing out that race could influence the way recruits respond to coaches.

Obviously we've had the #1 recruiting class in the nation for 7 years straight so it hasn't hurt us not to have coordinators of varying ethnicities but I can certainly empathize with that POV.
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I realize that which is why I was sure to mention I was not shooting anyone down. I was just giving my opinion which I stand by. If Coach Locksley gets the job he will have earned it. I was not responding to anyone which is why I didn't quote anyone. I just really believe in Coach Saban and he will do the right thing.
 
Mystical said:
I realize that which is why I was sure to mention I was not shooting anyone down. I was just giving my opinion which I stand by. If Coach Locksley gets the job he will have earned it. I was not responding to anyone which is why I didn't quote anyone. I just really believe in Coach Saban and he will do the right thing.
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That's what most don't understand. Yes, track record = not great. But, I think he has earned it and, in this case, I don't think the past is an indicator of future performance. Dabol's year this year was much better than his NFL OC numbers.
 
Intl.Aperture said:
We have to be careful because the original poster made it a point NOT to say that. He or she was just pointing out that race could influence the way recruits respond to coaches.

Obviously we've had the #1 recruiting class in the nation for 7 years straight so it hasn't hurt us not to have coordinators of varying ethnicities but I can certainly empathize with that POV.
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Right. I don't think anyone is implying that the hire will in any way be influenced by the candidates races. Just that CML being the first African American OC under Saban would have some significance. In a positive way. That also shouldn't take anything away from other potential candidates. Best man for the job will get it.
 
I do think there are some older black parents and grandparents to whom this matters a bit, and I understand. But unless older blacks make this an issue for them, and even then, IMO, the vast majority of the kids are long past this - good for them. But again I understand why some older blacks care, it's like when Obama won the presidency, so, I was very happy for them, and will be for those who care, if CML is given this job.

I know many have suggested it really doesn't matter, anyone can win with the talent Bama has. But it will matter in the big games, it will matter. There's often a thin line between success and failure. Bama's talent is not as overwhelming as most think, the coaching overall has been superior to this point. If Tosh is not ready and ML is not better than his past record suggests (I know the results will be better because of the talent), Bama will have some real problems when it matters. Saban is walking a treacherous line between recruiting and coaching, especially play calling, which most coaches can't do well. But there is no one better to walk that line than the greatest of all time. We all certainly wish the best for whomever he chooses and hopefully give them the benefit of the doubt rather than scrutinizing every move.
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alwayshavebeen said:
What exactly was the plan Locksley had to develop Jalen? I am really curious.
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I don't think Daboll "refused" to do it. I think it had more to do with the fact that coming from the NFL, Daboll was lacking experience in implementing an offense for a running QB and Locksley helped him in that area.
 
Al A Bama said:
Is he hiring a Pope or an Offensive Coordinator? Whoever he selects needs to be very Offensive.
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Yes. From the line of Peter the apostle himself, Coach Locksley IV of Maryland. Looks like we'll be throwing a lot of Hail Mary's :biggrin:.

Thank you. Ill see myself out.
 
rgw said:
His problem at Illinois and Maryland was talent based. I think he'll be great here.
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Being sincere, not rhetorical or snarky, but why do you say that ? Aside from the relationship with the players, which matters some, but is no help on 3 and 4 with the game on the line, what is it that would make you say that ? My hope simply rests in CNS choosing him. Btw, I agree that talent was an issue at Maryland, less so at Illinois: Juice Williams, Mendenhall and Benn. There were some good results at Ill, but how much was based on the Big10 being completely unfamiliar with that O at that time ? An offense different than he will run here.

I know that's 3 questions, but the only real question is, why do you say, "he will be great here" ?

Thanks
 
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