Border thread part II

Mexico has zero say wrt US immigration policies. Whether the US allows "asylum seekers" entry or not is purely up to the US government.

In fact, there's no rule that we have to accept those seeking asylum at all, we do so because we consider it the right and proper thing to do.

You can go back and look at the policies Biden chose to end at the beginning of his presidency and lo-and-behold, suddenly the illegal immigration numbers jumped staggeringly. Biden has options, he just refuses to use them as he painted himself into a political corner. Stating otherwise is ignoring the choices he made upon taking office.

I was asked, I provided. You guys can continue to act like one man has unlimited POTUS power while the other guy just can't seem to get things done due to 'mean old congress', but only those who cheer for team over all else see it that way.
Sometimes I get the feeling you are “on the team” because I seem to remember you said you were, but you sure do dog the qb.

if I remember correctly, the team we shared was one that did not want to see Trump back in the White House.
 
Sometimes I get the feeling you are “on the team” because I seem to remember you said you were, but you sure do dog the qb.

if I remember correctly, the team we shared was one that did not want to see Trump back in the White House.
I do not want him back in the WH.

What I want is for Biden to do his job, but he has chosen to allow the southern border to be overrun.

My frustration is that Biden CAN do something about it, but he backed himself into a corner by proudly undoing some of the legal things Trump did, and now cannot reinstate them without admitting his own failure. So instead, he plays 'poor ole me' and blames congress for not doing what his predecessor was able to do far better than he. He's choosing to allow this to happen, and y'all keep circling the wagons to defend his actions rather than acknowledging his policies have not only allowed, but encouraged illegal immigration. And I fear it's going to cost him re-election.

Acknowledging Biden's border failures doesn't mean one wants Trump - but ignoring them may well be how you get Trump.
 
Mexico has zero say wrt US immigration policies. Whether the US allows "asylum seekers" entry or not is purely up to the US government.

In fact, there's no rule that we have to accept those seeking asylum at all, we do so because we consider it the right and proper thing to do.

You can go back and look at the policies Biden chose to end at the beginning of his presidency and lo-and-behold, suddenly the illegal immigration numbers jumped staggeringly. Biden has options, he just refuses to use them as he painted himself into a political corner. Stating otherwise is ignoring the choices he made upon taking office.

I was asked, I provided. You guys can continue to act like one man has unlimited POTUS power while the other guy just can't seem to get things done due to 'mean old congress', but only those who cheer for team over all else see it that way.
Biden was handed a bucket of manure here. But he hasn't done very well of his own accord.
 
Specifically, what did the left drive him to do policy wise that might cost him the presidency? What is insane about those policies?
He removed remain in Mexico. That is the biggest one. Then they are sending unaccompanied minors to people they aren’t vetting for another.

 
ou guys can continue to act like one man has unlimited POTUS power while the other guy just can't seem to get things done due to 'mean old congress'

Lots to unwrap in this statement.

First, Check out Project 2025. It gives the blueprint for enabling Trump to do away with the government barriers that kept him in check last time. A second term will be far different than the first. They have told us their plans over and over. We'd be wise to take them at their word.

Biden does not have similar plans and what he decides to do is really an entirely different consideration apart from what an out of control Trump enabled by others in Congress and the courts will do if back in power.

It's also a bit ironic when those who generally eschew executive orders as overreach turn around and say that the president should override law and precedent with executive orders.

Could Biden do more?

Possibly.

Would it be the right thing overall?

Debatable.

There is no debate that congressional republicans had a golden opportunity to put into law some things that would have helped greatly and that Biden and the democrats are still willing to get it done but republicans have decided that having a campaign issue for low information voters is more important.

And there's no doubt things would change if the law was passed, including more border patrol and enforcement and faster adjudication of cases with fewer releases into the country of immigrants who may not have a legitimate case.
 
He removed remain in Mexico. That is the biggest one. Then they are sending unaccompanied minors to people they aren’t vetting for another.


I have to wonder what Dr Phil's expertise and evidence are. I am certain it happens to some extent, but what percentage of those trafficked are encountered by border agents vs those not encountered? He specifically is saying they are encountered and sent to "known" prostitution rings. On the surface, this seems unlikely. Of course, if it is happening it would be nice to have the extra personnel that was appropriated in the bill that Trump and others scuttled when Dr Phil claims lack of human resources is part of why this is happening.
 
I have to wonder what Dr Phil's expertise and evidence are. I am certain it happens to some extent, but what percentage of those trafficked are encountered by border agents vs those not encountered? He specifically is saying they are encountered and sent to "known" prostitution rings. On the surface, this seems unlikely. Of course, if it is happening it would be nice to have the extra personnel that was appropriated in the bill that Trump and others scuttled when Dr Phil claims lack of human resources is part of why this is happening.
From what I understand he went to the border and met with the CBP agents and interviewed them. He got first hand accounts of what is happening. He was promoting some that stuff. That why he was on the view.
 
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'Blame it on me': Trump appears to boast about working to sink border bill



Speaking at a campaign rally in Nevada, former President Donald Trump appeared to boast about successfully getting Republicans to try and scuttle any attempts at a bipartisan border security bill.
He was saying it was a bad bill and he helped kill it. I know that’s just his opinion, but that’s why he is saying it.
 
From what I understand he went to the border and met with the CBP agents and interviewed them. He got first hand accounts of what is happening. He was promoting some that stuff. That why he was on the view.

It seems strange to me that border agents are disregarding the law and sending vulnerable people to know prostitution rings and doing nothing at all about it. If that's the case it's an indictment of them that it continues, assuming what he says is true.

Thanks for sharing the information you have.
 
Sometimes I get the feeling you are “on the team” because I seem to remember you said you were, but you sure do dog the qb.

if I remember correctly, the team we shared was one that did not want to see Trump back in the White House.
Really? Someone can’t take a hard look at what a politician is doing and criticize it because it’s not being a team player? Just because you may not want Trump doesn’t mean you have to lick Biden’s boots.
 
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He was saying it was a bad bill and he helped kill it. I know that’s just his opinion, but that’s why he is saying it.

It's OK. I do blame him because he stopped anything from being done legislatively, including increased border agents and faster adjudications of cases that would lead to fewer releases into the country of people who do not qualify.
 
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Latino students at UGA face hostility after police say suspect in Laken Riley’s death is undocumented


But then, as the news spread that the suspect in Riley’s killing was an undocumented Venezuelan migrant, Doblado said she became frightened for an entirely different reason.



Riley’s brutal killing has sparked a number of online threats against migrants and Latino students at the University of Georgia. CNN has not independently verified these posts, but screenshots of threatening messages have circulated among the school’s tight-knit Latino community, creating a climate of fear.

Doblado said she chose not to attend Monday’s campus vigil for Riley and another UGA student who died by suicide, out of fear that she’d be targeted for being Latina.


The day after the vigil, Doblado said she was harassed by a man while waiting for the bus on campus, after she said a few words in Spanish on the phone.

“I got off the phone and he turned to me, and he said, ‘Well, you should just go back to your own country,’” Doblado said, adding that the incident shook her, and she called her mom.

Other students told CNN about messages posted to YikYak, an anonymous social media app where college students can share posts with users in their vicinity, set off a “wave of bigotry.”

“Who’s [SIC] wants to go hunting tonight? I know a few places where these migrants hang out,” read one post that has since been deleted.

“That was the first [post] that kind of made everybody realize that it was a problem,” a Mexican American UGA student told CNN. The student asked to remain anonymous out of concern for their safety.

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Hope no one gets upset about bringing up this very much related issue. It is just as much part of the overall border issue as the killing itself.
 


Death threats caused UGA students to cancel CNN interview. Hear why they're receiving them


Latino students at the University of Georgia say they're experiencing hostility on campus after police announced the suspect arrested in the death of a 22-year-old student was undocumented. CNN's Victor Blackwell says he was supposed to interview two Latino students, but they canceled due to death threats.
 
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Really? Someone can’t take a hard look at what a politician is doing and criticize it because it’s not being a team player? Just because you may not want Trump doesn’t mean you have to lock Biden’s boots.

Lock Biden's boots? I think I know what you mean...:rolleyes:
 
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Reporter: “Why are you waiting to take executive action on the border?”
Biden: “Because we need more forces on the border, I don’t have the authority to do that.”

Biden took 94 executive actions in his first 100 days to decimate border security — and has all the authority he needs to reverse course and end the border crisis.

On Biden's inaugural day, he signed executive orders that incentivize illegal immigration:
• Paused Deportations
• Suspended "Remain in Mexico"
• Stopped Border Wall Construction

Since these policy changes, over 8 million people have illegally entered the country, with millions more slipping past border patrol undetected.

 
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Personally I wish the border would be temporarily shut to all immigration until a border security bill can be passed. What is going on now is totally ridiculous.


And @Bamaro wins the Internet today! Most logical statement I've read in the entire thread.

No matter how anyone slices it......what the American people are seeing right now (the OPTICS) is ridiculous.

Close the border temporarily and only one group would be upset. The far left and the white liberal elitists who post on social media every day.

I said upstream somewhere we could use a 6 month moratorium on any asylum grants, to give us time to get things back under control.

In the meantime....the POTUS has currently lost the Hispanic vote to OMB. Just aired on CNN.

The Biden supporters have to be very frustrated right now........ :oops:
 
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And @Bamaro wins the Internet today! Most logical statement I've read in the entire thread.

No matter how anyone slices it......what the American people are seeing right now (the OPTICS) is ridiculous.

Close the border temporarily and only one group would be upset. The far left and the white liberal elitists who post on social media every day.

I said upstream somewhere we could use a 6 month moratorium on any asylum grants, to give us time to get things back under control.

In the meantime....the POTUS has currently lost the Hispanic vote to OMB. Just aired on CNN.

The Biden supporters have to be very frustrated right now........ :oops:


But we can't pass legislation?
 

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