BREAKING Buchner to start- per reports

Bama's OL was gashing sexat until they realized they could load the box and dare JM to beat them.

Bama gained 65 yards on the first nine plays on the ground (7.2 ypc). Starting with the third possession (beginning of the second quarter), sexat started loading up to stop the run.
We were ( are? I hope not! ) about as one dimensional as we`ve been in many moons, and that`s with Jalen throwing two scores.
 
It was mentioned that the QB competition was still open going into the UTX game but didn’t play out that way when only JM got all the snaps. After the 2nd int would have been the perfect opportunity to try someone else. The outcome might still have ended with a lose but we will never know now.
I don't disagree, but maybe a better time would have been after the first punt with 7+ to go in the 3rd. By the time of the INT the defense was gassed, or they lost hope, whatever.
 
As far as the situation in terms of not playing other QBs earlier, part of the problem is Alabama had to do everything they could to get QB1 ready and there was very little margin for error.

You split time more, then QB1 is even less prepared and less likely to succeed, furthermore once you've gone down that path, swapping them out could further hinder your chances of winning. It's one problem with never getting a rebuilding year, Alabama always has to try to make choices that are best for that exact moment, not necessarily what's best for the next game, or next season or what have you and that does come at a cost.

Anyway, as far as Milroe goes, this is year 3. At this point for instance Hurts, who had his developed hindered a great deal, had a stellar rating and lead that comeback against Georgia. Clearly Milroe's development is far behind that, and while he might turn things around in a year or two, it's a pretty valid question to ask whether or not he could turn things around this year...
 
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I honestly don't know how TB will do, but he may surprise us tomorrow..........I think his turnover issue might be behind him
I hope you’re right, but given his performance against USCe in the bowl game, I’m not convinced.

You’re more optimistic. What makes you think that way?

FTR — I’m convinced that Milroe isn’t the guy…partially because of the turnovers, but at least as much because he makes the team one-dimensional against good opposition. I’m convinced that Buchner can run the whole playbook. I’m not convinced that Buchner’s own propensity for turnovers is a thing of the past.

Under those circumstances, I choose Buchner because, if both have turnover issues, and one can run the whole playbook whereas the other can’t, give me the guy who opens up the offense.

I would love to be wrong in doubting that Buchner’s TO issues are in the past.
 
The two INTs definitely didn’t help Milroe’s case. But I think it’s more than just the INTs that led to Buchner being the starter.

It’s the inability to make even a decent defense (and UTw is far better than decent) respect the passing game. If they don’t at least respect the threat, they do what we saw Saturday night — load the box, deny the run, and mount an all-out attack on a jelling OL.

Milroe’s problem is that the classic counters to this — quick decisions on hot routes, checkdowns to short passes, ability to make even 2 reads in quick succession, etc. — are exactly what he has not mastered.

So no, the interceptions didn’t help. But I believe the lack of confidence that he can force a narrative different from the one that led to the INTs is what landed him on the pine.
I don’t see much of a quick since Sark and Kiffin. I don’t care who plays QB with the current line play and no emphasis on getting it out of the QB’s hand. I personally don’t think any of the QB’s are ready that’s why we are in the situation we are in. I am just hoping for anyone to be successful . Mesh concepts and over routes are very difficult to defend but take a long time to uncover. Just my two cents but your point is well taken.
 
Happy a change was made, but let's be honest- we won't know anything based on tommorrow's performance. South Florida is terrible, and we are like 34 pt favorites. Buchner will play 'well'
tommorrow just as any qb(including even milroe likely) would have against them. But let's not go around thinking that just because Buchner plays well against a terrible patsy opponent that it means anything, or it means we can expect him to play well against real competition.
Even if buchner plays well against USF tommorrow as I think everyone would expect(it is after all usf), we can't feel good about the qb spot going forward.
 
No source and i know this board hates rumors, but I’m hearing Milroe is the #3.

Hearing tomorrow will be Buchner, followed by Simpson if score allows.
For two different reasons, I hope that’s not accurate.

First, you send out Milroe, who has a well-known set of virtues and flaws, against UTw. Something not wholly unpredictable happens. Now, you’re saying he’s not even QB2? Why was he QB1 in the first place?

Second, and a corollary to the first, the decision to demote from starter to #3 would indicate several levels of mis-evaluation of talent, dating back to off-season conditioning and spring ball — 9 months in, that’s a coaching problem.

I don’t know if your sources are correct or not. I know if they are, it speaks to issues beyond the starting QB.
 
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I honestly don't know how TB will do, but he may surprise us tomorrow..........I think his turnover issue might be behind him

Surprise us tommorrow? huh? The opponent is a dreadful patsy south florida team.....does anyone expect buchner to NOT play well? It would shock me if he doesn't look good and we should win by 4 or 5 scores......but it sure as heck won't mean anything. If buchner plays well in the tough games after that? Now that will mean something.....but you can't read too much into games like tommorrow(or Milroe in the opener)....
 
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If you get the chance listen and fast forward to the 32:00 minute mark on todays 939 The Score Boomo Bugg Show podcast. Corey Miller had some really good comments about the team and how he feels about some of the players and NIL.
 
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Surprise us tommorrow? huh? The opponent is a dreadful patsy south florida team.....does anyone expect buchner to NOT play well? It would shock me if he doesn't look good and we should win by 4 or 5 scores......but it sure as heck won't mean anything. If buchner plays well in the tough games after that? Now that will mean something.....but you can't read too much into games like tommorrow(or Milroe in the opener)....
By surprise, I am referring to turnovers......................I expect him to thrown all over USF, but I think he plays with few to no mistakes. I think Milroe would run all over USF. As for it not meaning anything..............in the big picture, maybe not, but it's real game reps, patsy or not, which is going to help next week
I want to stick it to their coach bad.................one year and already running his mouth. You aint at UT anymore
 
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I hope you’re right, but given his performance against USCe in the bowl game, I’m not convinced.

You’re more optimistic. What makes you think that way?

FTR — I’m convinced that Milroe isn’t the guy…partially because of the turnovers, but at least as much because he makes the team one-dimensional against good opposition. I’m convinced that Buchner can run the whole playbook. I’m not convinced that Buchner’s own propensity for turnovers is a thing of the past.

Under those circumstances, I choose Buchner because, if both have turnover issues, and one can run the whole playbook whereas the other can’t, give me the guy who opens up the offense.

I would love to be wrong in doubting that Buchner’s TO issues are in the past.
Nothing specific, but i've heard some scuttlebutt from people close to the program............they seem to feel that TB is playing better and not trying to force passes like he did at ND.............now, he may revert back to that old form, but he may have turned the corner............we shall see. At this point, I'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt until he completely fails, which I dont feel he will. Also hopefully this will give others a chance at reps if Bama gets up by a lot of points.
 
This. The middle of the OL was a sieve. 5 sacks, 12 pressures from mostly 3 and 4-man rushes. Matt Wyatt had one play in his film study video where Mclaughlin and Dalcourt were beaten in a combo block by a single DL. Earlier in thread someone said that Mclaughlin may be dealing with an injury which might explain his early troubles.

The QB/OL blame game feels like a chicken-and-egg argument to me. Yes, Milroe made some terrible decisions, but the OL also never gave him a chance to develop a rhythm and build some confidence. And the offensive scheme installed by the coaches didn't play to JM's strengths either. A team failure.

If the staff wants to try another QB (I'm guessing Buchner starting is a Tommy Rees thing), they should also experiment with OL personnel as well.
I wasn’t that impressed with Rees.
 
Tua couldn’t stay healthy.
Are you missing my point? No one knew Tua would or would not get hurt when Hurts struggled all season throwing the ball.

Yes, Hurts was far more resilient, but no one had any idea that was the case when Tua was blistering the team in practice but riding the pine behind JH.
 
We got bailed out by Bryce last year, without him how many wins do you think Bama would have had?
The receivers still were not getting consistently open against the horns. In some plays yes, consistently no. Same problem Bryce was facing. Running game an issue yet again this year, which puts added strain on the pass. We don’t have that magical QB that we are used to having. The guy that appears to maybe have that is a true freshman, which would get eaten alive in the SEC while getting up to speed. The lack of offensive consistency wears on the defense, because they are on the field too long. Deep into the third quarter, the BAMA D kept the offense in the game. Saban going back to the game manager McCarron type, hoping for the same results. Doesn’t help that young, unproven OC at the helm, first in long long time. No Sark, no Kiffen, etc etc. five 4 to 5 star HS QBs, none can fill the void like the last four BAMA QBs now starting in the NFL. We’ll see if this can come around, but as you can see this has some complexity.

RTR!!!!!!
 
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Our CFP starts now meaning we can’t afford to lose from here on out.

There needed to be a change imo just to see what we have behind Milroe and if Buchner is indeed that guy that doesn’t turn the ball over in crucial situations in big games then so be it.

Regardless of whose the QB though, the OL needs to play better and I hope McLaughlin can fix his snapping issues.
There should be a next man up at Center also if the ball keeps hitting the ground. A Centers head has to be in the game.
 
Happy a change was made, but let's be honest- we won't know anything based on tommorrow's performance. South Florida is terrible, and we are like 34 pt favorites. Buchner will play 'well'
tommorrow just as any qb(including even milroe likely) would have against them. But let's not go around thinking that just because Buchner plays well against a terrible patsy opponent that it means anything, or it means we can expect him to play well against real competition.
Even if buchner plays well against USF tommorrow as I think everyone would expect(it is after all usf), we can't feel good about the qb spot going forward.
Agreed. The Ole Miss game will be huge! I am glad it is at home.
 
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