I suppose one can never tell, probably a bit of both - though he dresses as I do, drives decent vehicles, lives in a nice part of town.
Cop in MO kills unarmed black teen
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Remember they need to roll it up.Then he should have been stealing twinkies, not swisher sweets.
Auburn recruit.Very good read, indeed. I've posted over and over that the policeman didn't know stolen goods were on Brown's body, but Brown certainly did. If he had been arrested and convicted, it would have been bye-bye to college which he was supposed to begin in a week. BTW, he doesn't really look like college material - unless he can play OL or DL...
Yeah, that's what the guy at the shop I bought it from said as well. He said my best bet in a situation like that would be to get a direct hit in the head, explaining that the exit hole my .45 would produce would more than likely shut the club down.
I didn't even have the volume up on this and I could tell you exactly what was going on. Sad and sickening.
I withdraw my remark about OL or DL, because it could be misunderstood. When I said not college material, I was referring specifically to the way he treated the shop owner. Though his behavior with the officer is still up in the air, if the worst case turns out to be true, it's even more proof he wasn't college material. People with those sorts of aggressive tendencies tend to either leave on their own or be ejected involuntarily. The OL/DL quip was just a quip because of his size. I didn't think it through and I meant nothing either racial or as disrespect for football players...
It doesn't seem that Wilson thought Brown was involved in the robbery but the robbery video does tend to show the mindset of Brown at the time which could show potentially how Brown may have acted towards Wilson and why Wilson felt he needed to defend himself with his gun.
TIDE-HSV, I dont remember what type of attorney you are but in your opinion:
could the video be shown to a grand jury?
could the video (what are the odds) be shown to a petit jury?
could the video be shown to a grand jury?
could the video (what are the odds) be shown to a petit jury?
Yah, but already a crowd with hands up, etc - at this point, rational though might be out the window...
If someone was dumb enough to threaten a cop with a knife after being instructed to put it down or else, then the cops did the gene pool a favor.
Talked to the ex-cop new client this morning.
He said the biggest mistake people make when these sorta things happen is they disobey instructions from the cop(s).............and things escalate. Sometimes very quickly - and sometimes it involves a cop shooting to defend himself.
He said he spent some time in Washington DC and at times he and his partner were the only 2 white people in a particular area - on a call for example. He shared a few stories about confrontations that ended well but could have gone the other way. He remains VERY thankful they ended well. Said that cop in Ferguson will have to live with this but if he was justified....it is something he can live with.
Said the guy who was choked in NYC a while back - he resisted and it escalated.
I guess that's an important message to take from these things. Do not resist - and do what you are told to do by law enforcement.
We all know there are many peace officers on power trips - probably goes with the territory if you think about it. But even more of a reason to just comply and everyone gets to live another day.
He said the biggest mistake people make when these sorta things happen is they disobey instructions from the cop(s).............and things escalate. Sometimes very quickly - and sometimes it involves a cop shooting to defend himself.
He said he spent some time in Washington DC and at times he and his partner were the only 2 white people in a particular area - on a call for example. He shared a few stories about confrontations that ended well but could have gone the other way. He remains VERY thankful they ended well. Said that cop in Ferguson will have to live with this but if he was justified....it is something he can live with.
Said the guy who was choked in NYC a while back - he resisted and it escalated.
I guess that's an important message to take from these things. Do not resist - and do what you are told to do by law enforcement.
We all know there are many peace officers on power trips - probably goes with the territory if you think about it. But even more of a reason to just comply and everyone gets to live another day.
It's nice to see that LEOs in other areas understand the importance of community relations. A Kansas City, MO police officer posted this to Facebook:
The pic is not of Brown, btw, but of an alleged human awaiting trial in Oregon for allegedly killing his great grandmother. With a sledgehammer.
The pic is not of Brown, btw, but of an alleged human awaiting trial in Oregon for allegedly killing his great grandmother. With a sledgehammer.
Hmmm... Seems the officer suffered a "blow-out" fractured eye socket...
Edit: This is from a tweet by a St. Louis reporter who claims to have contacts in the police dept. in Ferguson. She also said that the police have gathered 12 eyewitnesses who all corroborate the story of the officer.
Edit: This is from a tweet by a St. Louis reporter who claims to have contacts in the police dept. in Ferguson. She also said that the police have gathered 12 eyewitnesses who all corroborate the story of the officer.
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Yes. It should be admissible as showing the mindset of Brown at the time. Remember that Brown was a fugitive at the time. There's generally a lot more latitude in what can be shown to a grand jury. The question in my mind has been whether the prosecutor will even put it before the grand jury or have an arraignment. It seems that the police have collected quite a bit of evidence corroborating the story of the officer. The DA would have the discretion of refusing prosecution. Or - he might take it before the grand jury in a CYA move, fully expecting them to return a no-bill. Disclaimer - I'm not a criminal lawyer, and MO may be quite different from this state...
I know. I'm glad it was a man of color who wrote that article. Otherwise, it might be considered offensive by some (oh, the horror). Then again, it could have been written by Brother Clayton Bigsby.
Very nice Sowell quote.
Yep. In any dealings with police, there are a few simple rules to understand.
Do not argue. Even if you are 100% right, no one has ever argued their way out of an arrest/detainment if the LEO has made up his mind to make an arrest. The time to make your case will come when you are in court.
Be polite. There is no reason to escalate emotion or tensions. Cops deal with the worst people humanity has to offer on a daily basis, and basic common courtesy goes a long way. The two times I've stood before a judge, both for traffic violations, the citing officer spoke up saying I was courteous. That can only help. I'm not saying you need to be some subservient booty-kisser, but even if you have the worst Billy-Badboy, macho, 'respect my authora-tah' cop, you can just as easily de-escalate the situation with a simple 'yes sir' from the get-go.
Having said all that, everyone should watch the YouTube video "Never talk to police" (48:39). It's a presentation by a law professor, but VERY interesting, and could save you someday.
In all seriousness - it's this very attitude that makes me believe almost every cop is on a power trip. if they can't pause to allow someone to rationally explain the situation because THEY ARE THE LAW, then they can get bent. To protect and to SERVE.
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