D.O.G.E (Department of Government Efficiency) II

Bamaro

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DOGE will probably break up the support from veterans that the GOP has enjoyed for decades. Alot of VA jobs are being cut and most of them are veterans themselves. Additionally Trump’s plans also call for a reevaluation of VA disability in an effort to cut costs.

Again we are seeing that there are reasons that the first idea that pops in your head is not usually the best when fixing a complex problem
Especially when that head has seen better days.
 

arthurdawg

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Especially when that head has seen better days.
Hegseth stated in a Fox news program a few years back that he felt our Veteran's expect too much and should be more self reliant. He then went on to say that he didn't use the VA because he was self reliant. Of course... he is also worth millions with a great health plan no doubt...
 

arthurdawg

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I wouldn’t be surprised if they could find $500b in fraud and graft.
Most estimates run in the 60-100 billion range.

I can tell you from being an owner of a large medical practice that billing services out is a tough and moving target. We have internal team of auditors to protect us, but it would be easy to code up here and there and very difficult to prove.

Of course... then you have the completely fraudulent and in your face addition of diagnoses by United Health and others that will never be tagged due to the $$$ in congressional coffers. And all of the outright fraud with medical devices, etc. The epicenter of much of that is in Florida.

It is a thorny and complex issue. Come down to hard on the innocent and you will decrease access to care and the grifters will retool and grift again.
 

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Hegseth stated in a Fox news program a few years back that he felt our Veteran's expect too much and should be more self reliant. He then went on to say that he didn't use the VA because he was self reliant. Of course... he is also worth millions with a great health plan no doubt...
I get VA disability but use civilian primary care like most VA patients with disabilities. It’s more because VA appointments are both limited and dependent on regionality. For example the VA in Tuscaloosa out sources their specialty care because they don’t have the facilities to provide that care, but Birmingham VA rarely does because they do have the facilities to do it in house. Point is that me living in the Tuscaloosa region it makes no sense to utilize the VA when I have civilian healthcare that is nearly immediate with care and can quickly get me into specialty appointments. The only reason I have VA care is because I want to keep my disabilities documented on federal charts because otherwise these DOGE donkeys wouldn’t think twice about cutting 1700 bucks a month from a veteran who served in war while they themselves just spent over 2 million dollars of taxpayer money to attend a Super Bowl in which they had no dog in.

But the truly horrific fact is that many vets have it far worse than me in that their mental and physical scars are constantly up for review depending on what an administration seeks to do. Additionally many are unable to transition to the civilian world and are solely dependent on VA care.
 

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Go in for sleep study viola you have moderate sleep apnea requiring a CPAP paid for by your insurance company...

Most estimates run in the 60-100 billion range.

I can tell you from being an owner of a large medical practice that billing services out is a tough and moving target. We have internal team of auditors to protect us, but it would be easy to code up here and there and very difficult to prove.

Of course... then you have the completely fraudulent and in your face addition of diagnoses by United Health and others that will never be tagged due to the $$$ in congressional coffers. And all of the outright fraud with medical devices, etc. The epicenter of much of that is in Florida.

It is a thorny and complex issue. Come down to hard on the innocent and you will decrease access to care and the grifters will retool and grift again.
 

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Go in for sleep study viola you have moderate sleep apnea requiring a CPAP paid for by your insurance company...
Not trying to take this thread in a different direction but the very nature of health insurance and cms in this country makes it a target for abuse and waste imo. Health insurance should ideally be only for major illnesses/accidents and not for routine care like coughs colds and regular ofc visits to the doctor for things like hypertension or diabetes. But unfortunately health insurance has morphed into a massive enterprise and the federal cms has made everything in healthcare delivery so complex (atleast from this primary care physician’s perspective) that fraud is massively prevalent in our country’s healthcare industry. And I agree with previous poster who stated big insurance like uhc is front and center of that type of fraudulent activity. Ok sorry to digress…..back to doge.
 

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This may well blow up in Trump's face when all is said and done.

That said, I don't see anything wrong with the email.
Here's part of the problem: the email says nothing about "failure to respond will be taken as a resignation." That's from a post on X.

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Also, it appears Musk, in his lust for power, has grossly overstepped his authority.


Multiple U.S. federal agencies told employees not to respond immediately to a demand by President Donald Trump's adviser Elon Musk to list their accomplishments in the last week or be fired, as a chaotic campaign to cull the bureaucracy pushes forward.

Trump administration-appointed officials at the FBI and State Department sent their staff emails telling them not to respond outside their chains of command, in a possible sign of tension between members of the Republican administration and the world's richest person in his campaign to cut down the government's 2.3 million member civilian workforce.


 

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This may well blow up in Trump's face when all is said and done.

That said, I don't see anything wrong with the email.
What authority does this guy have to even demand this from everyday government workers?....



That's rhetorical of course because he doesn't and why 3 agencies have already said not to respond to it.

If workers were not doing their assigned jobs on a daily and weekly basis then their supervisors would know that and dismiss them.

I've never worked for the Gov but I worked in plenty of Professional Office environments and My direct superiors knew what I did and knew whether or not I was getting things done. Same communication lines were open between me and those under me.

I never had a swaggy-do Billionaire off the street getting involved and I can understand why it's ruffling feathers.
 

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From the Trump Administration's acting director of the CFPB:

Over the last four years, many working class Americans with limited means faced unexpected medical bills, auto repairs & higher grocery bills. One company set up an innovative solution by creating a platform to allow borrowers & lenders to connect for loans at no interest, with borrowers able to tip the lender and also donate to keep the platform going. Shockingly, the CFPB tried to destroy this company, SoLo, which incurred millions in legal fees and had to lay off 30% of its workforce. It was wrong and we dismissed the case. More to come but the weaponization of "consumer protection" must end.


Readers added context they thought people might want to know


SoLo advertised "zero-interest loans," but "almost all of SoLo’s loans carry an equivalent annual percentage rate of over 36% APR, and many loans carry an APR in excess of 300%, with some over 1,000%."



... hundreds of SoLo users and officials in three states and Washington D.C. say the company has broken its promise. Several lawsuits plus internal turmoil and claims of suspicious business practices have raised questions about who ultimately benefits from the services SoLo Funds provides, and who may be harmed.


On October 16, a class action lawsuit was filed against the company alleging that SoLo Funds’ lending practices are “unlawful and deceptive.” Per the suit, SoLo Funds led customers to believe they were signing up for an interest free-loan, however, most borrowers end up paying a fee masked in the form of “tips” to the lender and “donations” to the company.
 

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Nah, I don't love everything they're doing, but I do like that they're trying to do something.
I don't like how they're going about reducing staff but I have zero doubt in my mind it needs to be done. Most governmental agencies are overstaffed leaving literally thousands of workers being paid for not having enough work to keep them busy for a full week and you have another set of thousands of employees who literally have nothing to do and getting paid for it. This is not just a federal government problem but a state and local government problem as well.
 

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I don't like how they're going about reducing staff but I have zero doubt in my mind it needs to be done. Most governmental agencies are overstaffed leaving literally thousands of workers being paid for not having enough work to keep them busy for a full week and you have another set of thousands of employees who literally have nothing to do and getting paid for it. This is not just a federal government problem but a state and local government problem as well.
I dont know if it still exists or not but I was told by a senior administrator at SS that they had a "turkey farm" there where slacker employees were transferred to who were very poor/lazy empoyees. It was easier to transfer them there rather than deal with civil service in getting rid of them totally.
 

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This new poll is absolutely devastating to the Democrats. DOGE is EXTREMELY popular by huge margins.

They screeched about it for weeks on every show and publication but the American people didn’t fall for it. Just shows how irrelevant the media and leftist talking heads are.



I'm still highly skeptical of polling, though. I'd like to see these exact same questions being asked across multiple polling platforms.
 
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