Gubment Shutdown

[bama_wayne1]

To allow time to fix issues for businesses. What does that have to do with Republicans wanting to stall?

If the POTUS is so concerned about the "little man" , why are all his waivers for the "big boys"? He is stalling just like you say the Republicans are the only difference is that he believes he can change a law just by speaking from his throne...

 

[2003TIDE]

If the POTUS is so concerned about the "little man" , why are all his waivers for the "big boys"? He is stalling just like you say the Republicans are the only difference is that he believes he can change a law just by speaking from his throne...

 

[seebell]

I have a question about Obamacare. I already have insurance through BCBS. Is there anything I have to do or fill out to satisfy the government or since I'm already insured, I'm good to go?

I too have insurance through BCBS. An individual policy I buy myself. If you are insured through your work you need do nothing. In Alabama BCBS have has frequently undated me via email. Good job by them

Here is a link to BCBS. http://www.elabs7.com/functions/mes...874&mlid=138488&siteid=1001272&uid=66fc99b064

You can go to BCBS directly and see their new plans. www.ibcbsal.com

The question I have is buying one of the new plans directly through BCBS the same as buying through the exchange. Do we have to go through the exchange to qualify for subsidies?

I'm sure this will become clearer as time goes on.

 

[seebell]

I'm working for you today for free, and will continue to do so until the government comes back on line.

You work for the Feds? If you aren't working it means you are non-essential!!:eek2:

 

[skrayper77]

Democrats blame Republicans for the shutdown.
Republicans blame Democrats for the shutdown.
Libertarians just shake their heads and sigh.

 

[MegaVars]

Not all of us are the unionized high school drop-outs that people like Glenn Beck would have you believe. A large population are Veterans who were employed due to the skills we acquired while serving in uniform. I only mention this to remind you that we are real people with real families.


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No disrepect Silver, IMO....saddest part are the workers that are being laid off that have no control over the situation.......I mean c'mon.....If I can't do my job, my company is going to lay off/fire me...not my lawn care service folks. I think all of capitol hill should work to clear this mess up with no paycheck coming.....be amazed the motivation that can be found when the money train stops pulling in.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Dude?

Shhhhhhh! It's not my post count....it's someone elses..... fine line...... (don't tell CA -- he's been grumpy at me lately )

 

[CajunCrimson]

You work for the Feds? If you aren't working it means you are non-essential!!:eek2:

BIB is essential -- he keeps me informed.....and educated as to the inner workings of Libtards

 

[G-VilleTider]

No disrepect Silver, IMO....saddest part are the workers that are being laid off that have no control over the situation.......I mean c'mon.....If I can't do my job, my company is going to lay off/fire me...not my lawn care service folks. I think all of capitol hill should work to clear this mess up with no paycheck coming.....be amazed the motivation that can be found when the money train stops pulling in.

I imagine their government paychecks PALE in comparison to all the lobbyist money they get. Yeah, I am cynic who thinks at least 90% of both parties are corrupt as can be.

 

[G-VilleTider]

Shhhhhhh! It's not my post count....it's someone elses..... fine line...... (don't tell CA -- he's been grumpy at me lately )

I wonder what a crawdad metamorphosis becomes ...

 

[MegaVars]

I imagine their government paychecks PALE in comparison to all the lobbyist money they get. Yeah, I am cynic who thinks at least 90% of both parties are corrupt as can be.

I think your number is off by 10%
:biggrin2:

 

[crimsonaudio]

Shhhhhhh! It's not my post count....it's someone elses..... fine line...... (don't tell CA -- he's been grumpy at me lately )

http://www.tidefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206476&p=2237419&viewfull=1#post2237419

 

[twofbyc]

Here's hoping. In the past, the answer has been yes, but Congress in its infinite asininity can pretty much do anything it wants.

FIFY
You're welcome.

 

[seebell]

New York Times editorial on the shutdown. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/opinion/john-boehners-shutdown.html?hp&_r=0

For six months the Senate has been demanding a conference with the House on the 2014 budget — talks which might have prevented the impasse in the first place. But the House leadership has adamantly refused, knowing it would not succeed in getting all the cuts to taxes and spending that it demands. For Mr. Boehner to call for a conference near midnight was the height of hypocrisy.

 

[SavannahDare]

For obvious reasons, given the decade-plus war we've been involved in and how damaged and injured so many of our young men and women who have served are returning to us, I (as a VA psychiatrist) am NOT furloughed. Unlikely to be. The stream of patients is seemingly neverending. So proud to have my job.

Oh, yeah, and Congress and this administration SUCK.

 

[seebell]

Maybe furloughed workers won't be paid!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/government-shutdown-back-pay_n_4025437.html

So far, Republicans appear split on the question of back pay for furloughed civil servants -- even though members of Congress are guaranteed to get paid regardless.

 

[BamaFlum]

Maybe furloughed workers won't be paid!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/government-shutdown-back-pay_n_4025437.html

So far, Republicans appear split on the question of back pay for furloughed civil servants -- even though members of Congress are guaranteed to get paid regardless.

If it's good enough for the masses, it's sure good enough for those idiots in Congress. No pay for the workers, nothing for Congress.

 

[Tidewater]

Feds spend money they don't have to barricade the World War II Memorial closing it off to visitors, so WW II vets "storm" the barricade.
Another effort by the Administration to make this as painful as possible for as many people as possible, hoping folks will blame political opponents.
Shameful.
Fortunately, the Obama Administration was no more successful than the Nazis at keeping these WW II vets out. The WW II Memorial doesn't need to be "closed." It's never really "open." It's an outdoor memorial, for Pete's sake.

 

[CajunCrimson]

I'm sure this will become clearer as time goes on.

LOL -- yeah, I bet it becomes clearer as time goes on........as clear as a Clinton Deposition

You'll wake up one day and see it clearly -- but, unfortunately.....once you see it, it will be too late......

 

[selmaborntidefan]

A couple of thoughts here:

1) For all the hub-bub now, this literally will boil down to nothing. For all the "I'm mad at both parties" or my personal favorite "X is to blame," it won't make any difference. What's that you say? You believe the myth that the Republicans shut down the government in 1995 and 1996 and the public made them pay? Really? Interesting. The Republicans GAINED two Senate seats in the 1996 mid-term elections, so I guess the public showed them, right? Yeah, they lost a few House seats, but that's going to happen when you so wipe out the party in the previous election that you take seats Republicans normally would not have a chance to win. The same thing happened for the Democrats in 2010, when they had gained so much in 2006 and 2008 that losses were inevitable.

Oh Clinton beat Dole? Like you think he wouldn't have beaten Dole without the shutdown? Really? Issue that never once came up in 1996 election? The government shutdowns. So for all the myth-making you're hearing from the media, it wasn't true, it isn't true, and it won't be true.

If you're a partisan thinking this is helping you, you're as wrong as wrong can be.

2) If Obamacare was so damned good, they wouldn't have voted it in in 2010 and waited four years to start it with all those exceptions for "our donors" if it was as great as they keep telling us. The wait was intentional - make doggone sure Obama gets re-elected and they don't find out until it's too late. This is COMMON SENSE, folks and I don't care your ideology. If it gave all that is promised, it would already be overflowing our lives with milk and honey.

3) Any of you still naive enough to think Obama actually cares about the little guy - he doesn't. He doesn't know you, he doesn't care if you have a job, he doesn't honestly care if you die. Get that old "Democrats care for the common man" garbage out of your skulls. A couple of years ago Barry came here to Dallas for a fundraiser. He did not go into the ghetto, the soup kitchen, or dilapidated military housing at Carswell - he went into the Sheraton Hilton and walked out with ten million bucks and closed off the roads around the hotel, sending those of us with gas guzzlers on longer trips home despite his professed concern about "the environment." The man is just like other politicians - a two-bit phony who thinks he got elected dictator.

4) The man is simply not a leader at all. THIS is why you don't elect SENATORS to the Presidency. Say what you want about Carter, Reagan, Clinton, or the last Bush - they were all governors and knew that whining petulantly to the media was not the way an executive would act. That's because they all had executive experience and Urkel Jr doesn't.

5) Now some of you may have been misled by the usual banner and flag stuff - about how unpopular Congress is, right? Well guess what? Most people LIKE their Congresscritter. At least 85% of them will get re-elected if they run. For all the "only nine percent approve," the fact is that if you don't live in John Boehner or Nancy Pelosi's district, it doesn't matter if you like them or not. You have no say in them keeping their job.

As far as the shutdown - if grown people elected to solve this problem cannot do so, they should all resign for incompetence (including the head honcho) and let someone have the job who CAN do so.