uh - Anderson, Braswell and Turner were pretty darned good pass rushers. We might have listed them as LBs, but they were edge players 100%. Only trouble was we didn't get as much development behind them and that's showing up this season, and would have been a challenge even with the old staff and scheme I think.
I still think we got the right guy (Coach DeBoer)
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uh - Anderson, Braswell and Turner were pretty darned good pass rushers. We might have listed them as LBs, but they were edge players 100%. Only trouble was we didn't get as much development behind them and that's showing up this season, and would have been a challenge even with the old staff and scheme I think.
Then why were there constant complaints (and rightfully so) from about 2018 on our pressure to the QB became less and less? Even when we blitzed it got picked up more times than not. Yeah, we got pressure from time to time, but nothing like pre-2018 years.
You gotta send more guys to block than there are blockers. USF and Vandy did a pretty good job of doing this to us. Maybe we need to implement some of the things they did.
Likely because Gol*ing would blitz To-To up the middle and he'd run right into what seemed like a wall.
This maybe the greatest coaching staffs ever assembled in year 2 at LSU. Aside from Yarno there was practically no to very little SEC experience on that staff.
Pre-2018, we got a ton of pressure from the DL, not just the edge guys.
Yep, that's what I've been saying. We aren't getting pressure from DT to DT. We'll get pressure from time to time from our edge guys, but not up the middle like we once did.
I was looking back at DeBoer's first year at Washington, and interestingly enough, there are some similarities in the path through the first 6 games.
DeBoer's first Washington team beat #11 Michigan St in game 3, then in game 5 they lost to UCLA, and in game 6 they lost to Arizona St. UCLA. UCLA was pretty good that year, but Arizona St was awful.
This year, we beat #2 Georgia in game 4, then lost in game 5 to Vandy, and barely escaped game 6. Both South Carolina and Vandy are pretty solid teams and certainly better than that year's Arizona St.
Game 7 of DeBoer 's first year at Washington was when they turned the corner, and proceeded to rattle off 21 straight wins. If it continues to follow the same path, then I think we might be alright.
DeBoer's first Washington team beat #11 Michigan St in game 3, then in game 5 they lost to UCLA, and in game 6 they lost to Arizona St. UCLA. UCLA was pretty good that year, but Arizona St was awful.
This year, we beat #2 Georgia in game 4, then lost in game 5 to Vandy, and barely escaped game 6. Both South Carolina and Vandy are pretty solid teams and certainly better than that year's Arizona St.
Game 7 of DeBoer 's first year at Washington was when they turned the corner, and proceeded to rattle off 21 straight wins. If it continues to follow the same path, then I think we might be alright.
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Well aside from Quinnen Williams I’m seriously trying to think of DTs that we saw go 1st and 2nd round. It just seems that every great one from 18-present is from Georgia, aTm, or Clemson. I know we have missed alot at that position in particular and i think it has costed us tremendously.
They don't have to be first rounders. Alabama has had many dominant DTs who pushed through the a gap right back into the QBs face.
Alabama does...
This. Either we've missed on almost all of our Dline evaluations or there is a serious lack of development or perhaps a combination of the two things. I'm talking about the tackles, not the ends. Obviously Will Anderson, Dallas Turner, and Braswell were great to very good but our interior guys have dropped off by quite a bit for several years now.
Okay I will settle for second rounders.
The point is that since Q we really haven’t had great defensive linemen and we haven’t had great position coaches on that side of the ball either. Saban has hired ace recruiter after ace recruiter but yet we have consistently complained about the defense and the lack of pressure yet we are suddenly shocked about the dam breaking once we have a transition.
In this day and age you have to either have elite DBs or elite linemen to have a great defense. Depending on linebackers to solve your problems only goes so far with mobile quarterbacks and crazy systems. We have a mishmash of experience with DBs and a line that is pretty lacking. They will get better with experience but the only question anyone has is “but how many lossesâ€Â.
Jonathan Allen? Deron Payne? (Funny enough both went to WASH) Both were top 17 picks.
Allen was in 2017 and Payne was in 2018. Meaning they were Pruitt’s last group. I’m really talking in terms of once we made the switch to Tosh and Golding to the present. 2019 draft and beyond.
There is a possibility that there are some. But I doubt any of them were as high profiled as Q. My point is there was some shift towards aTm and Georgia becoming DLU after the 2017 NCG.
Since Q Williams, we've had Mathis and Barmore go in the second. Barmore was the first DT off the board his year and did well enough in the pro's he was the highest paid patriot ever not named Tom Brady. R. Davis, B Young and Eboigbe were all 3rd/4th.
I do think the way Tosh and Gol&ing tweaked things or maybe didn't optimize the way the system worked limited our pressures. Like someone else mentioned earlier, we spent a lot of time blitzing to'o to'o and harris inside, flaring the DT or NT over a gap, and doing stuff with the edge guys (like dropping Eboigbe or Will Anderson back in coverage) that just didn't work. Maybe it would have been worse had we just rushed the guys like normal, but I generally recall being a bit more effective with more of a standard rush package or a secondary blitz.
This may be a dumb question, but I was wondering about our analysts this year. I assume they are almost all new? I know they can coach and be on the field now with the new rules.
I wonder how good of a job they are doing with film breakdown, etc compared to analysts in the past? With a new head coach, OC, DC, scheme, losing lots of players from last year, NIL, portal, etc, there are just so many transitions to deal with this season. Preparation is key for each game, starting with DeBoer. I was just curious how many hours everyone works/how well-prepared everyone is, all the way down to the analysts. I realize nobody will be the same as Coach Saban and his staff, but hopefully the new staff will be prepared better and prepare the players better moving forward.
I wonder how good of a job they are doing with film breakdown, etc compared to analysts in the past? With a new head coach, OC, DC, scheme, losing lots of players from last year, NIL, portal, etc, there are just so many transitions to deal with this season. Preparation is key for each game, starting with DeBoer. I was just curious how many hours everyone works/how well-prepared everyone is, all the way down to the analysts. I realize nobody will be the same as Coach Saban and his staff, but hopefully the new staff will be prepared better and prepare the players better moving forward.
We have dropped off a lot the last 3-4 years on the d- line, and I think it's coaching, listen I love Freddie Roach but I don't think he's a very good d- line coach, if he was coaching linebackers I think he would be very good there because he was a heck of a linebacker
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