Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama vs. IU...

[KrAzY3]

Coach Bryant and Coach Saban changed their philosophies so it can be done. The question is do the coaches on this staff have the will to look inside and figure it out.
I'm willing to give them a shot.
I do agree with some others, though, that if the staff is not willing to change to make things better and we keep getting out physicaled by other teams when it counts then he may need to find a job elsewhere.
I'm all for giving a man a chance but if things don't continue to improve/staff not willing to make changes then there is a time to turn the lights out.

I've never called for him to be fired and I certainly won't now. I do think it's time for a staff over-haul though, give him a shot to address the issues. But, if he delivers another 4 loss season it's time to start considering options.

I honestly do not know what to think about this Jekyll and Hyde team. This coach. This staff. This program. No, CKD ain’t gonna magically fix all these issues. I’m seriously in doubt that he’s capable of building and motivating a championship caliber program in the SEC without the generational talented QB such as a Penix. There hasn’t been a complete game played at all this season and it seems there are seldom ever adjustments made to what the competition is doing. I’m never going to abandon my team but this sorta performance is really painful to watch and root for.

Roll Tide.

Some think it's an attitude/motivation issue, I still see it mainly as a philosophy issue. Even with Penix that team couldn't win a championship, it still had the built in flaw despite talent, experience and an elite QB.

I think it's Jekyll and Hyde because that's what finesse teams look like. When it all syncs up and the offensive line protects the QB, the QB throws well, and the WRs catch the ball, this offense and this team looks fantastic! But how often have all three actually happened at the same time? A few games right? But when they WRs drop the ball, or the QB struggles, or the OL doesn't protect the QB, the entire thing falls apart because there's no redundancy built in. There is no plan B on this offense, it's pass, pass, and pass some more.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Then someone needs to back up the Brinks truck at Bobby Flay's place.

If only it were that predictable / easy.

 

[CB4]

Had we lost both games 28-21 or something similar, I’d have hope we could get there next year. I don’t have that hope tonight. Serious overhaul is needed if we are going to sniff another title under this staff. I don’t want DeBoer to be fired. I want him to be able to fix it.

This is what disgusts me the most. Couple it with the opening season embarrassment with FSU, it is what is unacceptable to me.

In my almost 60 years as a rabid Bama fam, I’ve experienced some bad blowout losses. But rarely have i ever questioned the heart and effort of those kids in crimson. A few times, yes, but rarely.

IMO you can’t tell me from a talent standpoint Indiana is 35 points more talented than this Bama team. So where is the disconnect?

Coaching, player evaluation and discipline. Bottom line.

 

[SMOKIESBAMAFAN]

I don't expect us to win the national championship every year, but I do think we should be putting a team out there every year that can contend for one. No, if we lose we shouldn't be hollering fire everyone, but today was one butt-ugly game that makes you wonder what we're actually doing behind the scenes. I would not have been one bit surprised if Indiana won today, but how we looked in defeat was just bad. No fight at all in the team.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I disagree... He's an immature punk, but a really good QB coach

Who has literally won exactly zero championships. But do go on...

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

3 friggin points Kalen DeBoer against 1 of the historically worst college football programs of all time?

A team that is currently undefeated

 

[Bpilktree]

A reminder is that Seattle canned their OC in one year and the next they are the #1 team in the NFC.

They went from Geno Smith to bringing in Sam Darnold from Minnesota who was 14-3 as a starter the year before.

 

[SMOKIESBAMAFAN]

Exactly! In CKD’s losses, we look embarrassingly unprepared.

 

[Special K]

Could.......woulda...................shoulds................but didn't.
Season was better than last season. Made the playoffs.
There are a lot of things that need to be addressed, for sure, but for all of y'all who want to pull the plug right now........Who you gonna hire to do better?

We just lost to a better option. It was a better season than last year, sure, but not near good enough and substantially underachieving for the talent we have. And it’s not so much the record, but the games we’re losing and how we’re losing them (and how we’re barely scraping by in others). The team reflects the approach and mindset of our coach. If what you are witnessing is acceptable to you, then good for you. It’s not to my eyes, especially considering the payroll involved. I’m not saying fire the guy right now, but I just have strong doubts this is going to work out long term. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[Cruiser]

I think we'll find out he was playing hurt when the downturn started.

What I don't understand is why not go to your #2.

Someone said we didn't complete a pass over 25 yards in our last 6 games.

We had 30yds to Brooks and 37 to Horton against Oklahoma; Germie had 34 today,; at least 10 over 25 yds in last 6 games

 

[JDCrimson]

Im just tired of all these G5 assistant coaches. Small ball doesnt in P4 CFP.

 

[crimsonaudio]

That entire sequence, especially with Cignetti smirking and raising his eyebrow on the other sideline, was perhaps the most embarrassing moment Alabama has had since Bill Curry was playing soft rock music in the locker room to pump the team up prior to games.

He'd do that whether Indiana won or lost that sequence because he's an aging prig who is angry he didn't get an opportunity before retirement age. He's a douchebag, pure and simple - don't give him credit for being lucky more often than not...

 

[CB4]

Kalen DeBoer might be a great guy, but he’s the last guy I’d invite to be the motivational speaker at my sales team’s national meeting.

 

[Bpilktree]

I think the problem that most of us have with Grubb is him trying to outsmart himself at times.
Take todays game for example where on 4th and 1 we try a jet sweep of all things instead of putting a big ol D lineman in the backfield to run interference for a BIG running back ( which ,yes, we don't have which is part of the point) and just get one yard and continue the drive. We did it early in the season and it worked. Why not do that now?

I wasn’t a fan of the call to go for it in that situation but we have used that play a few times in similar situations and it worked this season (that was same play they used vs South Carolina on the touchdown run to win the game). . We have also tried the short 3rd and 4th and 1 inside run before too and got stopped.

 

[crimsonaudio]

True that 40 is the real number, and i agree with you that we had a talent drain, but some of that is noise. Bennett, Clayborne, howard, Courtney, Deerman, Willoughby, Ellis, Skehan, Neighbors, Porter, O'Quinn, Craig and bellenfant were't guys that matter. Even guys like Goodwine, Perry, Blackshire, jackson, story, buchner and Williams were not the real issue. a big chunk of that first group were walkons anyway

To me it's not the number of dudes, but losing the key dudes

The real issue is that we lost guys like Sayin, Downs, Amos, Little, and Ricks who all would have been competing or starting. Even Kitselman to be honest and Holstein maybe...

The glaring issue is that we lost T Ferguson, Seth M and J Brockermeyer. Not that our OL coach would have made good decisions with them, but Ferg and Brock would have been better (and played better) than most of our other IOL this year,

But the knee-jerk reaction is that it's a coaching issue...

Yes, that might play a part, but really - if some of those players are still around this team looks different...

 

[bamamc1]

I'm confused?

See post 228

 

[SkinnyFats]

He'd do that whether Indiana won or lost that sequence because he's an aging prig who is angry he didn't get an opportunity before retirement age. He's a douchebag, pure and simple - don't give him credit for being lucky more often than not...

You gotta admit though - our call on that play was certainly worth an eyebrow raise and a smirk, no?

 

[crimsonaudio]

You gotta admit though - our call on that play was certainly worth an eyebrow raise and a smirk, no?

I'd not have run wide, but again, Cignetti would have responded the same regardless. He's milking the media for all he can.

 

[gtgilbert]

But the knee-jerk reaction is that it's a coaching issue...

Yes, that might play a part, but really - if some of those players are still around this team looks different...

it can be both. Holding onto some of those guys was the responsibility of the coaches right?

Also - the way our OL coach was the last 2 years, I'm not sure if we had Landon Dickenson, Cam Robinson and Evan O'Neal on the roster that he would have played them in the right spots.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

I can’t imagine Nick Saban having a “GM” come out at the REC. meeting telling everyone there that we “struck out” and to “temper our expectations.” That’s freaking hilarious right there. If that’s how this is supposedly being ran currently, we’re in for a long tumultuous mess.

Did he say anything about what we were doing to improve the oline problems from 2024? What we were doing to improve QB play? Earlier, it was posted here we lost 40 to the portal when CNS retired. Who went to the portal and found replacements? Was it Morgan? If so, lol.

To be fair, consider we may have "missed/whiffed" because we were outbid.