My comment would be that I would consider it to be completely unethical to promise Ty that the position is open next year and that not be an accurate statement. Obviously that would be an attempt to prevent him from starting with one of Bama's opponents. Frankly that would be a last straw for me in terms of the chaos that has developed in College football.
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I agree.
If we do not have an open competition ( a TRULY OPEN competition) in the off season then next season will be really bad.
If I'm the coaches, I advise the team that ALL positions are open and it will not be A POPULARITY CONTEST and whichever qb, rb,OL, etc is the best player that is who plays. Anyone not buying in can hit the portal.
I mean that is just pure speculation. Ty played Ok in the USF game. Good enough to win and led us to all 17 points and he only played about a half. The real weak link in that game was the O line. Atrocious. People were also convinced that Milroe would lead us to a 3-4 loss season. Saban hasn’t lost 3 or more games in the regular season since 2010, no matter who was starting. So I’m not exactly convinced that but for Milroe we were going to be a 3-4 or more loss team this year. It’s certainly possible, but I think unlikely. From my completely uninformed vantage point, I don’t think Ty got an entirely fair shake once the season started. We wasted a lot of time with Buchner. I was surprised to see Milroe get the start back after USF but it more or less worked out and Milroe did show more improvement than anyone anticipated. Point being, we really can’t say how it would have played out differently if different decisions had been made. Maybe Milroe was the best choice. I’m just saying that starting Ty was not an automatic 4 loss season.
You don't luck your way to beating GA for an SEC championship.
I'm not a "forever Milroe" guy, nor am I suggesting that there shouldn't always be an open competition for any position. But that said - Ty completed 5 passes for 73 yards and no scores against USF. He was sacked 5 times. Yes, the offense had sustained drives while he was in the game. None of this information suggests to me that he was a better option than Milroe - if anything, it simply states that Ty was easily a superior option to Buchner. The offensive line played a truly putrid game that day, but taking 5 sacks in one half, against the USF defense, is indicative of a guy that hasn't developed good pocket awareness and can't feel pressure. Granted we had the same issues with Milroe, but he had a bigger arm, better legs and more experience. Milroe was the obvious choice after that game. I suspect he had an attitude problem and the USF game was probably a little bit more than "we just wanted to see what we had and give the other guys a shot" as Saban indicated. I also think it was pretty clear after that game what we needed to do.
Ty looks great on paper. He was a "can't miss" recruit, and he throws beautiful intermediate routes and has pretty decent wheels. That's all we really know about him. Obviously there are issues with him managing pressure, managing the offense, etc.. I suspect the staff wanted him to win the job as it would require less modification of the existing scheme, but that just didn't materialize for whatever reason.
Speculating what the season would have been like with Ty starting is just that, speculation. My overarching point was that Jalen was very productive this season, regardless of his issues with technique, reads, etc.. 3,300 yards and 36 touchdowns is a huge season for a QB facing the quality of schedule that we faced. Could Simpson have equaled or bettered that? Who knows. I personally think it's unlikely.
We can speculate all we want, but I think our coaches made the right call. I also hope Ty knows what he's doing - he's talented enough to start for a number of P5 schools and might be a better fit in some of their schemes, and if Julian is as good as we think he is then I don't see much room for Ty to get on the field past 2024.
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Agreed, but Ty really knows the offense and ran it well this year. He has the edge going in.
It doesn't have to be either / or.
Granted you could end up being right. But I think Ty Simpson will make enormous strides in development because it was more than obvious when he came in he had gotten A LOT better at the position. Yes, it was in mop up duty and against a crappy USF team. But, the progress was still evident.
I was mainly capturing the "32 off target" snaps! Simply incredible for one game!
If you’re referring to Roydell Williams, there was an edge rusher right there who would have either batted the ball back into Milroe’s face or tackled him before he even got the pass off.
I’m curious how they measured “off target”. IMO an “off target” snap would be anything outside the torso. So basically top of the numbers to belt and inside the shoulders would be the “snap zone” if you will. Just curious if there is some standard for this because I have no idea. Or did some guy just watch film and use his gut to count which ones were off?
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Start with two scoops of pure fanboy conjecture, then bring them to a slow boil under a week of post-game disappointment and recrimination belched out on multiple online threads. Better yet, skip the pan and serve it raw. Salt and pepper to taste. Yum.
SM's decision to enter the portal is interesting. Either he's been "encouraged," or, judging from post-game behavior, feels as if he's had enough blame and wants out of the pressure cooker. Either way, I don't blame him...
I'm curious about this also. Just because a QB adjusts some, does not mean it's off-target. top to bottom, definitely from just under the belt to shoulders/top of numbers. inside the shoulder is also good, but it can also be good if it's to the QB throwing sIide, or intentionally to the side of the QB where the play action handoff is. Of course, the shoestring or anything much lower than mid-thigh is bad. I'm going to have to go rewatch to see exactly where that number came from.
I mean even in practice, the QBs don't get snaps directly in the hands. In the video of the QB passing I posted earlier, on the first rep Ty gets the snap is slow, and up into the helmet. he still snatched it and got the ball out quickly. Those are 'snaps, where a GA is literally tossing them the ball from the ground, and typically the GAs are not supposed to make it 'perfect'
You win as a team and you lose as a team. Assigning blame does nothing. Get back to work in the spring and let's begin a new march to the title in 2024.
Im sure the full narrative regarding the inconsistency in the snaps is not getting out and he us shouldering more than his share of the blame in the media. And my perspective suggests that Saban didnt go as far to cover for him as for Milroe in press conferences. Imo, there has been a whole lot of covering for Milroe this season by players and coaches.
Sometimes, you have to stand up for your own dignity even if you give up something you are invested in.
Sometimes, you have to stand up for your own dignity even if you give up something you are invested in.
Oh so the greatest coach in history is a coward and a liar?
I *think* it was Kevin Clark, of "This is Football Productions" (but don't hold me to him) who was IN the M locker room post-game. He reported there wasn't a single player or coach who didn't believe Milroe would be the ball carrier on that last play. The entire team keyed on JM because they'd studied a lot of video and knew what was coming.
I hate posting this, but Bama simply got out-coached in OT.
I hate posting this, but Bama simply got out-coached in OT.
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