Possible Issues Within LSU Coaching Staff Brewing in Baton Rouge?

[Blindside13]

Orgeron is a very good position coach, but a disaster as a head coach.

I agree we have been there and done that with Dubose and Shula.

 

[RT27]

As a matter of semantics if you beat them... then LSU still lost to Troy. :wink:

Lets get real YES TROY beat LSU but this is not a Les Miles LSU. Still a great win for Troy but, in all honesty Troy does not have the talent of a LSU. With a half decent coach LSU wins this game 99% of the time. NOT taking away from the win but this is by no means a typical LSU that is secondd to third best in SEC normally.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Sadly, I hope Miles goes to Arkansas, Ole Miss or TAMU and has a field day with LSU.

 

[Probius]

Ed Orgeron is LSU's Mike Dubose. Both were good position coaches who were in over their heads as head coaches, and Ed O will probably harm LSU as much as Dubose harmed Bama. Everything that Coach Saban built down there is being dismantled, and LSU now looks like they did in the 90's. We won't have to worry about those guys again for a while.

 

[RT27]

The firing of Miles and some other coaches in recent years reminds me of the old saying, be careful what you ask for........ you may just get it.

 

[bamamc1]

Ed Orgeron is LSU's Mike Dubose. Both were good position coaches who were in over their heads as head coaches, and Ed O will probably harm LSU as much as Dubose harmed Bama. Everything that Coach Saban built down there is being dismantled, and LSU now looks like they did in the 90's. We won't have to worry about those guys again for a while.

Even Dubose had a 10 win season and an SEC title. I think if Orgeron were at Hoover, he would be 6-4 every year.

 

[Tug Tide]

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_102c1204-a88f-11e7-92f8-976462ea5688.html

Apparently LSU ran a hybrid
Ensminger/Canada offense against Troy

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_102c1204-a88f-11e7-92f8-976462ea5688.html

Apparently LSU ran a hybrid
Ensminger/Canada offense against Troy

Still didn’t stop them from taking an L in the column. The problem isn’t scheme, it’s the players within. Can’t fumble on the first snap of the game. You’ve gotta block someone. You’ve gotta have decent QB play. Those are essential. Until you get those parts, well, you lose to Troy State. (Yeah, I know it’s just Troy now)


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[dvldog]

Read that LSU was 0 for 9 on third down Saturday. That will get you beat regardless of who's offense you are running.

 

[92tide]

i have to wonder if some of the lsu players pulled a michigan v app state and partied the night before.

it would be irresponsible not to speculate

 

[Bamabuzzard]

i have to wonder if some of the lsu players pulled a michigan v app state and partied the night before.

it would be irresponsible not to speculate

Going by what several of the local media outlets have said this week, along with an offensive lineman's interview and Coach O's admission of getting a little too involved in the offense. I think there is some divide within the coaching staff and players maybe starting to take sides. Local sports talk radio show this morning played an interview of an offensive lineman who said he liked all the pre-snap motion of Canada's offense because he felt it distracted the defense and made them think a little more. This comes after it was reported that Coach O supposedly told Canada to "simplify" the offense which included cutting back on all the pre-snap movements and shifting.

I told my LSU friends before they hired O and I'm reminding them after they've hired him. He ran Ole Miss' program into the ground and he was passed over for the USCw job. This AFTER being on staff for several years and having the opportunity to sell himself and his style to the program. That should have spoke volumes. Some lessons have to be learned the hard way and I've got a feeling it's about to turn into a dumpster fire in Baton Rouge.

 

[B1GTide]

i have to wonder if some of the lsu players pulled a michigan v app state and partied the night before.

it would be irresponsible not to speculate

That UM team was well coached and ended up having a very solid season. I think that they beat Tebow and the Gators in the bowl game that year (could be wrong). The App State game was a total fluke, only made possible by the players' failure to prepare at all for the game.

 

[TideEngineer08]

A rebuilding job? PUH-LEASE.

There is not another program in the SEC West with as much talent and depth as LSU outside of Tuscaloosa. This is a meltdown. It's not as if LSU should have been considered a shoe-in for the playoff, but a 10 win season was a reasonable expectation.

 

[92tide]

That UM team was well coached and ended up having a very solid season. I think that they beat Tebow and the Gators in the bowl game that year (could be wrong). The App State game was a total fluke, only made possible by the players' failure to prepare at all for the game.

these two things seem a bit contradictory.

no big deal though, i made the comparison to rag on lsu since they suck so bad

 

[92tide]

A rebuilding job? PUH-LEASE.

There is not another program in the SEC West with as much talent and depth as LSU outside of Tuscaloosa. This is a meltdown. It's not as if LSU should have been considered a shoe-in for the playoff, but a 10 win season was a reasonable expectation.

there were plenty of posts here before the season talking about how lsu is one of the few sec teams that had comparable talent to us.

 

[crimsonaudio]

there were plenty of posts here before the season talking about how lsu is one of the few sec teams that had comparable talent to us.

They're pretty loaded - a good staff would have LSU challenging Bama in the west this season.

 

[B1GTide]

these two things seem a bit contradictory.

no big deal though, i made the comparison to rag on lsu since they suck so bad

Saban - Alabama 2010. Sometimes coaches don't reach players. Lloyd Carr was a great head coach.

 

[RTR91]

LSU AD Joe Alleva meets with Orgeron, coordinators to 'tell each other how it is,' source says

The meetings in LSU’s football operations facility Monday were not limited to players only.

LSU athletic director Joe Alleva met with head coach Ed Orgeron and his two coordinators in what Orgeron described as a “very positive” gathering about the program’s “direction,” he said Wednesday on the Southeastern Conference teleconference.

Alleva and Orgeron called the meeting, Orgeron said, and it was triggered, he admitted, by last week’s 24-21 loss to Troy in Tiger Stadium – the first nonconference home loss in 17 years.

The discussions between offensive coordinator Matt Canada, defensive coordinator Dave Aranda, Orgeron and Alleva unfolded in Orgeron’s office, and they centered around “accountability,” a source familiar with the discussions told The Advocate. The four left the meeting in agreement on the direction of the program.

“It was a gut check meeting,” the source said. “It was more that guys need to look each other in the eye and tell each other how it is.”

 

[uaintn]

I'd be shocked if there wasn't dissension in the coaches' offices as well as in the locker room. Too much talent available for these sorts of results. And yes, they didn't beat themselves in this game as much as Troy pushed them around. Frankly, it wasn't as close as the score looked. Maybe they just planned to give it to Guice 35 times a game and try to play hard on defense....

 

[92tide]

Saban - Alabama 2010. Sometimes coaches don't reach players. Lloyd Carr was a great head coach.

yeah, we had our issues in 2010, but it was not in the same universe as losing to appy state