Post season thread...

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Keep bringing it - and make time stand still in that 11th hour until Battle runs out the clock on Grant. In football terms, the Tide needs a turnover in the worst way.
 
UAB just beat C-USA regular season champ Louisiana Tech. So unless Tech gets an at large bid, they'll be in the NIT and will leave one less spot for us. If they re planning to fire Grant, they should tell the NIT not to invite us. If we went on a run and won it, there is no way they could fire him.
 
One of things that somewhat concerned me when we hired Bill Battle: While a tremendously successful businessman, I was wondering what he would do or how he would react when faced with a difficult matter concerning coaches. I do seem to recall that when he was the UT head coach and was fired, CBB was very bitter because he felt he wasn't given a fair shake to turn the football program around. I wonder if that plays any into his decision to "go to the mat" for Grant in this situation?
 
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One of things that somewhat concerned me when we hired Bill Battle: While a tremendously successful businessman, I was wondering what he would do or how he would react when faced with a difficult matter concerning coaches. I do seem to recall that when he was the UT head coach and was fired, CBB was very bitter because he felt he wasn't given a fair shake to turn the football program around. I wonder if that plays any into his decision to "go to the mat" for Grant in this situation?

You may have hit the nail on the head. The same situation is probably going to happen with baseball. It's early, but the next four weeks could be brutal. They will probably excuse it because of not having a true home field this year.

I'm amazed that at Alabama we would install an interim AD to do nothing to improve a program that is in bad shape to simply leave it to the next AD.
 
That is good news but if Battle is this clueless then obviously he has no plan in place and to scramble to try and get a new coach at this point concerns me greatly.

Exactly my thoughts. That's how we end up with a guy that no one wants.
 
If he hasn't planned on firing him, then he has no plan in place to find a new coach. No looking over who us out there, no sending out feelers to see who might be interested, no nothing.

So at this point we might as well keep him.


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If he hasn't planned on firing him, then he has no plan in place to find a new coach. No looking over who us out there, no sending out feelers to see who might be interested, no nothing.

So at this point we might as well keep him.


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It's the default decision and I think we've already taken it. I've written my half page email to him, not that it'll do any good, but he had to at least read it because of our family connections. When he and I were in school, basketball occupied a position far inferior to football. Before anyone else says it, I understand that's still the situation. I know that it's not that different today, except that it is. When I was a freshman, Lambert was so badly off for players, he started scouting the intramural leagues for players. He ended up signing three guys from NYC, all of whom turned out to be crooks - point shavers. One went to prison later. Don't know about the other two. However, that's how bad it was. I don't know how much of an influence that had over Battle or if his interest in basketball increased after leaving there...
 
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I'll say this... If Grant is gone... and we hire a coach and we stink the joint up next year... does this makes us look good or bad? It speaks a lot about the fans, booster and the expectations that comes with the program... all of sudden, the job is no longer attractive.... Like My mama said.. be careful of what you wish for, sometime things isn't always what it seems to be, we don't always know the whole story...
 
It's hard to view the current state of affairs regarding Bama hoops. Self inflicted wounds much like we saw so much of with the football program for many years. If we have to stick with Grant, well that's an unsatisfactory battle plan.
 
I, too, sent an email to Bill Battle. Got to make your voice heard.

Got to thinking about it today. Grant is the only Bama basketball coach in my lifetime to not have won a single NCAA tournament game. Even David Hobbs got 2 wins.
 
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It's the default decision and I think we've already taken it. I've written my half page email to him, not that it'll do any good, but he had to at least read it because of our family connections. When he and I were in school, basketball occupied a position far inferior to football. Before anyone else says it, I understand that's still the situation. I know that it's not that different today, except that it is. When I was a freshman, Lambert was so badly off for players, he started scouting the intramural leagues for players. He ended up signing three guys from NYC, all of whom turned out to be crooks - point shavers. One went to prison later. Don't know about the other two. However, that's how bad it was. I don't know how much of an influence that had over Battle or if his interest in basketball increased after leaving there...
 
I'll say this... If Grant is gone... and we hire a coach and we stink the joint up next year... does this makes us look good or bad? It speaks a lot about the fans, booster and the expectations that comes with the program... all of sudden, the job is no longer attractive.... Like My mama said.. be careful of what you wish for, sometime things isn't always what it seems to be, we don't always know the whole story...

Grant has been treated better than he deserves from a W-L perspective. Most coaches will see a job where they are given 6 years to perform as a positive. They will see an enticing salary and a school patient enough to give them time to succeed. The flip side is that if we have no plan in place we could end up with a less than attractive candidate pool. But the fact is if there is not a change, we've given up and given Auburn the state by default.

I wonder if we should send emails and letters to Dr. Bonner as well. I emailed Battle before the Florida game.

As a side note, I told my brother in Cincy that we were going to keep him and his quote was "are the athletic department officials really that stupid?"
 
I don't think it's about being "smart or stupid", it's about a personality type. Coach Battle knows the pressures of that spot and probably is having some misgivings about letting a member of the fraternity go.

Grant has been treated better than he deserves from a W-L perspective. Most coaches will see a job where they are given 6 years to perform as a positive. They will see an enticing salary and a school patient enough to give them time to succeed. The flip side is that if we have no plan in place we could end up with a less than attractive candidate pool. But the fact is if there is not a change, we've given up and given Auburn the state by default.

As a side note, I told my brother in Cincy that we were going to keep him and his quote was "are the athletic department officials really that stupid?"
 
I don't think it's about being "smart or stupid", it's about a personality type. Coach Battle knows the pressures of that spot and probably is having some misgivings about letting a member of the fraternity go.
His words not mine. FWIW, I think Battle is a smart man. He is looking at it from the perspective of a man who had not been to basketball game until last year so his "base line" perception of the program is that small crowds and a quiet arena are normal. My perception is that Alabama is a program waiting to explode. The students and fans would easily sell out Coleman with a good team who give them something to cheer about. The students and fans showed up in droves early in Grant's tenure at Alabama. Now barely 250 students come to games and that includes the pep band. We just need the right person to inject to positive energy into the program. Also, I think that Grant is very popular among the athletic department itself. I'm sure he is a nice guy, but so was Shula.
 
Battle was at UT during the heydey of Ray Mears, so he knows what an energetic, exciting coach can do for a program. I lived in Knoxville for several years and people on talk shows still remembered him fondly.

Sadly, I think he sees the basketball program is making a bunch of money so there is no point in firing him. Ticket sales may suffer, but ticket revenue is becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the program.
 
It's hard to view the current state of affairs regarding Bama hoops. Self inflicted wounds much like we saw so much of with the football program for many years. If we have to stick with Grant, well that's an unsatisfactory battle plan.

I feel the entire 'Battle Plan' is un satisfactory when it comes to men's sports besides football. Basketball is a joke with CAG having no clue and our baseball program isn't far behind with coaches lying to recruits. (I've seen first hand how they are treating a top recruit, say one thing and do another, leave a kid and his family hanging in the airport b/c 'something came up'....)But, as I've said before CBB only cares about football.
 
I'll say this... If Grant is gone... and we hire a coach and we stink the joint up next year... does this makes us look good or bad? It speaks a lot about the fans, booster and the expectations that comes with the program... all of sudden, the job is no longer attractive.... Like My mama said.. be careful of what you wish for, sometime things isn't always what it seems to be, we don't always know the whole story...

I don't think that Pitino or Calipari would light up the joint next year with what is returning. I think most fans would understand that if a new coach would come in it would be a rebuilding year. Even Grant in his first year had to deal with the train wreck that MG left.
 
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